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Lower Level Sub-Sector Meeting Toronto
Downstream Petroleum Trade Sector Review
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Organization's and Contact's Name |
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Advance Liquid Meter Inc |
Paul Hopson |
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Canadian Pacific Railway |
Jim Kienzler |
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Canadian Urban Transit Association |
John King |
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Canadian Independent Petroleum Marketers Association - CIPMA |
Bob MacMinn |
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Dofasco Inc. |
Lynn McGloin |
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Imperial Oil Ltd. |
Nelson Lespérance |
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ITS Caleb Brett Canada |
Ron Martin |
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John Reid & Sons Ltd |
Simon Jones |
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MidCom |
Keith Doherty |
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Petro Canada |
Bradley Beaman |
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Railway Association of Canada |
Mike Lowenger |
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RNG Controls |
John Hurd |
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Shell Canada |
Bill Trussler |
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Total Meter Services Ltd. |
Shawn Johnson Harry Van Boxmeer |
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Wyoming Meter Service |
Bruce Gray |
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LTS Sales Ltd. |
Dean Cumes Mario Bonnici |
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Measurement Canada -Observers |
Graham Jarvis |
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Members of the Measurement Canada DPRS Team |
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MC |
Ted Kingsbury |
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MC |
Terry Reid |
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MC |
Renald Marceau |
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2. Purpose of the meeting
Stakeholders to establish Measurement Canada's (MC) level of
intervention in the Downstream Petroleum Sector and in the Lower
sub-sector in particular; to define criteria for an acceptable
alternate service delivery mechanisms in area where intervention
through inspection programs and services are deemed necessary; to
define the type and level of reporting and monitoring mechanism
necessary for the sector; and to determine an appropriate sector
review frequency.
3. Participant's Expectations
Stakeholders were asked for their expectations of the meeting.
4. Criteria for making decisions at the meeting
Decisions and recommendations at the meeting:
5. Record of decisions and recommendations from the meeting
participants.
Please consult the Lower Section and Appendix D
of the Discussion Paper on Establishing an Appropriate
Level of Measurement Canada Intervention in the Downstream Petroleum
Sector for more information regarding the levels of intervention
originally proposed.
Trade devices include all primary measuring devices such as truck scales, vehicle scales, platform scales, rail tanker cars, loading and unloading meters, truck mounted meters, pipeline meters as well secondary devices such as thermometers, pressure devices, density devices. Tertiary devices such as flow computers/electronic registers are also included.
Pipeline Meters
Pipeline meters in the Lower sub-sector exist in odd
remote areas cases whereby fuel oil is delivered to commercial
establishments and a meter is present at the delivery end of the
pipeline. These are generally covered by contractual agreements
where by both parties enter into an agreement on the measuring
device used and the parameters around it. It was stated that
there are very few of these types in Canada.
There was limited knowledge in this area amongst the participants and there were no strong arguments either for or against the proposals for pipeline meters. It was generally felt that Measurement Canada does not need to intervene to ensure equity and accuracy in trade transactions by pipeline in the Lower however dependant buyers of this type of transaction were not present and may need to be consulted further.
Railway Tank Cars
Stakeholders reserved comment for Railway Tank Cars as
there was limited knowledge in this area amongst the
participants. There were no strong arguments either for or
against the proposals. It was confirmed that there are
transactions that rely solely on the markers in the railway tank
car. Recommendations from other consultation sessions were
brought forward by Measurement Canada for information. For
further information on this please see the minutes from the
Upper and NGL consultations sessions.
Marine and Tank Gauging
Stakeholders reserved comment for Marine and Tank Gauging
as there was limited knowledge in this area amongst the
participants. There were no strong arguments either for or
against the proposals.
Loading Rack/Truck Meters/Tanker Trucks/Unloading
Meters/Rail-Vehicle Scales/Other Scales
Discussions took place around the vehicle mounted meters
whether it should be left for the retail sector. The majority of
truck mounted meters that deliver to commercial establishments
will be used to deliver retail home heating. It was recognized
that if the majority of these devices are used for dual
purposes, they may be subject to review again during the retail
trade sector review. The DPSR team had realized this during the
early stages of the review but decided to leave them in this
trade sector review for those transactions that involve
commercial deliveries.
The trade devices for this part of the subsector was deemed to warrant a higher degree of MC intervention. Primary, secondary, and tertiary devices would be required to undergo approval, initial certification, and to re-introduce a periodic certification. Seconday devices such as pressure and temperature devices should be accepted on a performance based specification rather than design. Some concerns were voiced as to devices that needs to be approved, should be more precisely defined (eg: air eliminators, software etc.).
Measurement Canada should maintain the mandatory approval and initial certification programs for devices of this group as well as the applicable existing written standards. Recognizing l'Organization internationale de métrologie légale or other countries' device approvals is acceptable to stakeholders as long as it does not result in lower standards. Perhaps a screening program to see if any additional tests, during the approval process, may be warranted that may not have been done by another country, should be implemented prior to accepting other country's approvals. It was suggested that a "What's New" section on MC's web site be established to assist industry to be knowledgeable when new approvals are posted. Suggested a category to select descipline (eg. mass,volume, etc) for notification be set up.
Industry guidelines should be status quo.
During the discussion about current device compliance rates, it
was confirmed that some meters may not be tested as frequently
as they should and would warrant a re-introduction of a periodic
re-certification frequency set at a maximum window. This window
was suggested to be 2 years. The time of year may play into the
equation as well due to variances found between winter and
summer calibrations. This may be a factor if trying to establish
an optimun inspection frequency by monitoring performance over
time. Also stakeholders would like to see the compliance data
broken down further to separate the split compartment tests,
fast flow tests, and slow flow tests. Frequency should not to
refer to calendar years as a device could be inspected Jan 1,
2000 and then on Dec 30 2002 (35 months as apposed to 24),
suggested wording "must be re-verified during a time not to
exceed 24 months from last verification". Some stakeholders
would like to see the frequency based on volume throughput for
meters. Some stakeholders had concerns about secondary devices
having to be done by MC or ASD as "in-house" expertise
exists within large oil companies and could have a
"mini-accreditation" process for this to enable
monthly checks of RTDs for example in order for these types of
devices to be re-sealed. This was discussed again in more detail
under the agenda topic of service providers.
The following was agreed to;
Packing Devices
Devices used to pre-package products was briefly discussed with the recommendation that these devices have the same requirements as for loading rack meters, truck mounted meters and weigh scales. It is acknowledged that scales are the primary packaging device used in this sub-sector.
Physical Standards (Pipe provers, open provers, pressure gauges, thermometers, master meters, master scales, test weights, etc.)
Measurement Canada to provide for the adoption of legislation requiring that any physical standard used for testing and calibrating trade devices (custody transfer), whether or not they are used by a Measurement Canada's inspector or Alternate Service Delivery Mechanism (ASDM), is traceable, calibrated and certified at proper intervals. The legislation would address standards' design, accuracy, usage and frequency of re-calibration. It was suggested that these should be published on MC's web site. Any parts that could be adjusted or moved that may affect accuracy, should be sealable on any standard. Guidelines should also be established to address the proper selection, use, storage, transportation and care of them.
These requirements would apply to physical standards used to test pipeline meters, loading rack, and vehicle mounted metering equipment, metering systems used to load and unload railcars, tanker trucks, and scales whether or not a legal certification is issued. Requirements for master meters should be included as well.
Stakeholder suggested specifications for open neck provers should be further defined to limit the variety of provers with respect to valving arrangements, cross sectional area, top loading and bottom loading design. The top loading versus bottom loading seems to be a concern when performing prover comparison checks in the field. It was suggested that a study be undertaken, under controlled conditions, to address the best design criteria, as this has been a concern in the past. This should be addressed through the MC Volumetric Standing Committee.
Measurement Canada would provide calibration and certification services to ensure traceability. Calibration and certification services through accredited third party laboratories would also be acceptable as long as there is enough competition and not only one dominate party. It is clearly defined as to what written standard these laboratories would be recognized for (eg. ISO 17025). The scope of what they would be recognized for would also be needed.
Frequency of certification of standards should be reviewed and should capture data to see if current frequency, as determined by MC, is appropriate eg. portable versus fixed, movable part versus non movable part.
The following was agreed;
Marine and Tank Strapping
Proposals were not discussed with the stakeholders as they were
not well versed in this area.
Master Meters, Master Scales and Associated Equipment
(thermometers) for Calibrating Railway Tank Cars
Proposals were not discussed with the stakeholders as they were
not well versed in this area.
ASD for the Delivery of Measurement Canada's Services
and Programs
In accordance with Measurement Canada's strategic
direction, initial certifications and periodic mandatory
re-certifications of trade measuring systems will be performed
by third party organizations to which Measurement Canada will
delegate the necessary certification authorities.
Participants, including primary stakeholders and service providers, recommended that Measurement Canada design and implement an ASD simpler and less costly that the current measurement Canada accreditation program. They felt that the quality assurance component (ISO 9002 model) of the current accreditation program is unnecessary and too costly. Rather, they recommended a registration or certification program that would focus on knowledge and proper enforcement of applicable legislation, procedures and other Measurement Canada requirements. In order to be recognized or certified, an organization would basically be required to use traceable and certified physical standards, would have to be trained and assessed periodically by Measurement Canada. They would also have to enforce the legislation as required and use the prescribed inspection procedures, would have to issue certificates and report the results of their inspection as prescribed. Measurement Canada would assess competencies, perform audits and product audits to ensure compliance.
Some concerns were raised about service to remote areas where they may be one service provider recognized by MC. After a few years this service provider was not able to pass the competency tests or product audits. Is it possible that Measurement Canada would not be in position to "fill in"? What would be the result? Measurement Canada must consider this scenario in any ASD initiative it undertakes.
Mandatory Registration of Service Providers for Any
Metrological Work
The stakeholders support the adoption of a legal
requirement which would allow only "licensed",
"authorized" or "registered" service
organizations to service (repair, break seals, adjust, test,
calibrate) trade devices where the MC intervention is required
for initial certifications and mandatory re-certifications. The
"licensing" or "registration" program would
have to take the form of an ASD described in the previous
paragraph: mandatory use of certified standards, mandatory
training, assessment by Measurement Canada, monitoring and
reporting mechanisms, etc. No need for a costly - quality based
(ISO) system. Any added cost to the industry for this
requirement would be offset by the benefit of having a MC
recognized service provider which must meet certain criteria.
Under the current regulations, there is no control on the quality of work performed by service providers and the testing equipment they use. Service providers present at the meeting view such a registration system an opportunity to create a level playing field, and an opportunity for Measurement Canada to implement measures that will contribute to enhanced device maintenance work. Discussions took place as to if a company or an individual should be licenced. One suggestion was to have the company registered with licenced technician/s for the various scopes of competence. This would ensure that a company would have the administrative support for reporting requirements and the responsibility for training.
MC confirmed from previous consultations sessions that the maintenance "non-metrological" work, performed on trade device secondary components (ATC probes, pressure transmitter, etc.) by internal personnel, that do not impact on accuracy of the device is not subject to this requirement. The current reporting requirements when seals are broken would be maintained. If internal personnel from owners were recognized by MC in a "mini accreditation" format, it would allow them to adjust their own temperature probes during monthly checks without having to get an ASD company or MC in to certify and reseal it.
Concerns were raised over companies that may be accredited and those only going for registration or licencing. This may upset the playing field causing it not be level. MC must be careful to balance this concern as well as to not create monopolies in some geographical areas. Petroleum companies would like to receive the same information as the service provider will receive under the training portion, to ensure their service providers are doing what they are supposed to be doing; over and above any MC audits.
It was agreed;
Note from Measurement Canada: implementing a mandatory licensing or registration program may require important changes to the legislation.
The status quo with regards to written standards and programs is recommended throughout this subsector; binding compensation is not necessary.
Stakeholders agree that further measurement Canada involvement in the resolution of disputes is unnecessary although the vulnerable parties may need to be consulted further.
Stakeholders' need for monitoring and reporting mechanisms to assess on-going performance of the sub-sector is minimal. Any mechanism would simply be to satisfy Measurement Canada's requirements. MC must maintain the appearance of equity in the marketplace in order for the confidence level to be high. There may be a risk if too much is given to third party organizations without the proper checks in place.
The types of indicators may include periodic surveys every 24 months with results compared from survey to survey. Compliance rates were seen as a good indicator as long as they are clear as to what they mean (eg # error against buyer) and be representative of the industry device population. Considerations must be made to alleviate any concerns over the winter/summer performance factors. Complaints should be used as an indicator as well but need to be valid complaints and not just "sour grapes".
Stakeholders recommended that a review of the Sub-Sector is performed about 3 years following the implementation of the decisions regarding MC level of intervention. Events that would trigger an earlier review: at the request of industry or MC; major turn over of service providers or not enough of them; decrease in compliance rates, or increase in complaints - but use with care.
An advisory panel could possibly be made up from end users participation.
MC should be the depository for all information in this sub-sector.
6. Conclusion
The above summarizes, in our opinion, the recommendations
of the participants to the meeting. We felt that consensus was
reached in most cases and the recommendations received general
support.
Certain proposals such as the registration of service providers, products and services, railway cars, marine and tank gauging will be carried over from previous sector meetings as well as coming sector meetings for discussion.
The recommendations summarized in the document will serve along with the recommendations received at the other meetings of the Downstream Petroleum
Sector to draft the final report later in the fall.
Ottawa, October 2001
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