HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION
JOURNALS
No. 126
Monday, February 10, 1997
11:00 a.m.
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PRAYERS
PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS
At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the
House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members'
Business.
Ms. Beaumier (Brampton), seconded by Mr. O'Reilly
(Victoria -- Haliburton), moved, -- That, in the opinion of
this House, the government should introduce legislation to
protect public servants who report wasteful spending,
illegal activities or any other incidents which threaten the
integrity of the government of Canada. (Private Members'
Business M-263)
Debate arose thereon.
MOTIONS
By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the
recorded division on the amendment in relation to the
Business of Supply, deferred to Monday, February 10, 1997,
at the ordinary hour of daily adjournment, be further
deferred to Tuesday, February 11, 1997, at the expiry of the
time provided for Government Orders.
PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms.
Beaumier (Brampton), seconded by Mr. O'Reilly (Victoria -- Haliburton).
(Private Members' Business M-263)
The debate continued.
Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped
from the Order Paper.
INTERRUPTION
At 11:54 a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:06 p.m., the sitting resumed.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Notice having been given at a previous sitting under
the provisions of Standing Order 78(3), Mr. Gray (Leader of
the Government in the House of Commons and Solicitor General
of Canada), seconded by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture
and Agri-Food), moved, -- That, in relation to Bill C-70, An
Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial
Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Act, the Debt
Servicing and Reduction Account Act and related Acts, not
more than one further sitting day shall be allotted to the
consideration of the report stage of the Bill and one
sitting day shall be allotted to the third reading stage of
the said bill; and
That, fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time
provided for Government Orders on the day allotted to the
consideration of the report stage and on the day allotted to
the third reading stage of the said Bill, any proceedings
before the House shall be interrupted, if required, for the
purpose of this Order and, in turn, every question necessary
for the disposal of the stage of the Bill then under
consideration shall be put forthwith and successively,
without further debate or amendment.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to
on the following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson
-- Augustine -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger
-- Bellemare -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua
-- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Brushett -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis
-- Catterall -- Chan -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette
-- Collins -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cullen -- DeVillers
-- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Easter
-- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Gaffney
-- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Guarnieri
-- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Irwin
-- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas)
-- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Maloney -- Manley
-- McCormick -- McKinnon
-- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague
-- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood)
-- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Reilly
-- Pagtakhan -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew
-- Phinney -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson
-- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Rock
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré
-- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant)
-- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi
-- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief
-- Volpe -- Zed -- 108
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur
-- Bernier -- (Gaspé) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead)
-- Chatters -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral
-- de Savoye -- Debien -- Duceppe -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth
-- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Gouk
-- Guay -- Guimond -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hermanson
-- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Jacob
-- Jennings -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Loubier -- Marchand
-- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield
-- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Mercier
-- Meredith -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond)
-- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg
-- Speaker -- St-Laurent -- Strahl
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne
-- White -- (North Vancouver) -- 50
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Bergeron
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Brien
-- Canuel -- Cauchon -- Crête -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Dumas
-- Fillion -- Finestone -- Fry -- Godin -- Harper -- (Churchill)
-- Landry -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- (Beauharnois -- Salaberry)
-- Lavigne -- (Verdun -- Saint-Paul)
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lefebvre -- MacAulay -- Marleau -- Ménard -- Parrish
-- Payne -- Pomerleau -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Shepherd
-- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Verran -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Young
The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill
C-70, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial
Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Act, the
Debt Servicing and Reduction Account Act and related Acts,
as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with
amendments;
And of the motions in Group No. 3 (Motions Nos. 118 to
124).
Group No. 3
Motion No. 118 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot),
seconded by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), -- That Bill C-70 be
amended by deleting Clause 261.
Motion No. 119 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot),
seconded by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), -- That Bill C-70 be
amended by deleting Clause 262.
Motion No. 120 of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded
by Mr. MacAulay (Secretary of State (Veterans)
(Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency)), -- That Bill
C-70, in Clause 262, be amended by
(a) replacing lines 11 and 12 on page 359 with the
following:
``province out of amounts received in a fiscal year
under Part IX of the Excise Tax Act''
(b) replacing line 30 on page 359 with the following:
``of amounts received in a fiscal year under Part IX of
the Excise Tax Act to a person''
(c) replacing line 41 on page 359 with the following:
``advance out of amounts received in a fiscal year under
Part IX of the Excise Tax Act''.
Motion No. 121 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot),
seconded by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), -- That Bill C-70 be
amended by deleting Clause 263.
Motion No. 122 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot),
seconded by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), -- That Bill C-70 be
amended by deleting Clause 264.
Motion No. 123 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot),
seconded by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), -- That Bill C-70 be
amended by deleting Clause 265.
Motion No. 124 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot),
seconded by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), -- That Bill C-70 be
amended by deleting Clause 266.
The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 3.
STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS
Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.
ORAL QUESTIONS
Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded
to Oral Questions.
DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS
Tabling of Documents
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to
the Leader of the Government in
the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Orders in
Council approving certain appointments made by the
Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows:
(1) P.C. 1997-77. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8540-352-24I.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee
on Transport);
(2) P.C. 1997-78 and P.C. 1997-80. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-8I.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee
on Foreign Affairs and International Trade);
(3) P.C. 1997-79. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8540-352-18E.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee
on Health);
(4) P.C. 1997-81 to P.C. 1997-83. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8540-352-5I.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee
on Procedure and House Affairs);
(5) P.C. 1997-84. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-22G.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee
on Industry);
(6) P.C. 1997-85. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-6H.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee
on Natural Resources);
(7) P.C. 1997-86 and P.C. 1997-87. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8540-352-10H.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee
on Fisheries and Oceans);
(8) P.C. 1997-88 to P.C. 1997-91. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-16G.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee
on Human Resources Development);
(9) P.C. 1997-96 and P.C. 1997-134. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-14H.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee
on Citizenship and Immigration).
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary
to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the
Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the
following petitions:
(1) Nos. 352-1209, 352-1225, 352-1237, 352-1270, 352-1274, 352-1282,
352-1324 and 352-1360 concerning sexual orientation. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8545-352-45S;
(2) No. 352-1222 concerning the Criminal Code of Canada. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8545-352-15K;
(3) No. 352-1316 concerning material depicting violence. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8545-352-141;
(4) No. 352-1320 concerning the Canada-United States tax
convention. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-88D;
(5) Nos. 352-1340, 352-1343 and 352-1346 concerning the tax
system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-24R;
(6) No. 352-1359 concerning taxes on books. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8545-352-129D.
Presenting Reports from Committees
Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans), from the
Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 4th
Report of the Committee (Chapter 11 of the May 1996 Report
of the Auditor General). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-75.
Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was
requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive
response.
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issues
Nos. 1, 2 and 3, which includes this Report) was tabled.
Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the
Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing
Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 52nd
Report of the Committee, which was as follows:
The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, the
following changes in the membership of Standing Committees:
Citizenship and Immigration
Bélanger for Bakopanos
Fisheries and Oceans
Steckle for Dromisky
Foreign Affairs and International Trade
Bakopanos for Loney
The Committee further recommends, that where a Member is appointed as
permanent member to a Committee in accordance with this report and to which
he was previously appointed Associate Member, that the name of the Member
be struck from the list of Associate Members of the said Committee.
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issue
No. 3, which includes this Report) was tabled.
Introduction of Private Members' Bills
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion
of Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans), seconded by
Mrs. Gagnon (Québec), Bill C-369, An Act to amend the
Criminal Code (gaming and betting), was introduced, read the
first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second
reading at the next sitting of the House.
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion
of Mr. Chatters (Athabasca), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead), Bill C-370, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act
(income deferral from forced destruction of livestock or
natural disaster), was introduced, read the first time,
ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at
the next sitting of the House.
Motions
By unanimous consent, Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary
to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons),
seconded by Mr. Discepola (Parliamentary Secretary to the
Solicitor General of Canada), moved, -- That the 52th Report
of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs,
presented earlier today, be concurred in.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed
to.
Presenting Petitions
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk
of Petitions were presented as follows:
-- by Mr. Bevilacqua (York North), one concerning youth employment (No.
352-1629), one concerning the Criminal Code of Canada (No. 352-1630) and
one concerning Canadian technology (No. 352-1631);
-- by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), one concerning the tax on gasoline (No.
352-1632);
-- by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), one concerning the highway system
(No. 352-1633), two concerning police dogs (Nos. 352-1634 and 352-1635),
one concerning sex offenders (No. 352-1636) and one concerning the tax on
gasoline (No. 352-1637);
-- by Mr. Valeri (Lincoln), one concerning youth employment (No. 352-1638)
and one concerning health care services (No. 352-1639);
-- by Mr. Lincoln (Lachine -- Lac-Saint-Louis), one concerning the nuclear
industry (No. 352-1640) and five concerning the highway system (Nos.
352-1641 to 352-1645);
-- by Mr. Morrison (Swift Current -- Maple Creek -- Assiniboia), one
concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1646) and two concerning the
highway system (Nos. 352-1647 and 352-1648);
-- by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden), one concerning the tax on gasoline (No.
352-1649), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1650) and one concerning
the highway system (No. 352-1651);
-- by Mr. Discepola (Vaudreuil), one concerning the tax on gasoline (No.
352-1652);
-- by Mr. Harb (Ottawa Centre), one concerning taxes on books (No.
352-1653);
-- by Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), two concerning taxes on books
(Nos. 352-1654 and 352-1655) and one concerning the nuclear industry (No.
352-1656);
-- by Mr. McKinnon (Brandon -- Souris), one concerning pornography (No.
352-1657) and one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1658);
-- by Ms. Augustine (Etobicoke -- Lakeshore), one concerning AIDS research
(No. 352-1659);
-- by Mr. Forseth (New Westminster -- Burnaby), one concerning the highway
system (No. 352-1660) and one concerning the tax on gasoline (No.
352-1661);
-- by Mr. Taylor (The Battlefords -- Meadow Lake), one concerning the tax on
gasoline (No. 352-1662);
-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning sexual orientation (No.
352-1663) and one concerning the nuclear industry (No. 352-1664);
-- by Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), one concerning housing policies (No.
352-1665), one concerning the nuclear industry (No. 352-1666) and one
concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1667);
-- by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), one concerning the highway
system (No. 352-1668).
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill
C-70, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial
Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Act, the
Debt Servicing and Reduction Account Act and related Acts,
as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with
amendments;
And of the motions in Group No. 3 (Motions Nos. 118 to
124).
The debate continued.
QUORUM
The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a
quorum and, fewer than 20 members having been counted,
pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to
call in the Members.
After one minute, a quorum was found.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill
C-70, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial
Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Act, the
Debt Servicing and Reduction Account Act and related Acts,
as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with
amendments;
And of the motions in Group No. 3 (Motions Nos. 118 to
124).
The debate continued.
The question was put on Motion No. 118 and, pursuant to Standing Order
76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.
Group No. 4
Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Mrs. Picard
(Drummond), moved Motion No. 125, -- That Bill C-70 be amended by deleting
Clause 270.
Debate arose thereon.
At 6:15 p.m., pursuant to Order made earlier today under the provisions
of Standing Order 78(3), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.
The question was put on Motion No. 125 and, pursuant to Standing Order
76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.
Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking
of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-70, An Act to
amend the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act,
the Income Tax Act, the Debt Servicing and Reduction Account Act and
related Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with
amendments.
Group No. 1
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Martin (Minister of
Finance), seconded by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture
and Agri-Food), -- That Bill C-70, in Clause 26, be amended by
replacing lines 30 to 45 on page 38 and lines 1 to 6 on page
39 with the following:
(a) a registrant (in this subsection referred to as the
``auctioneer''), on a particular day, makes a particular
supply by auction of prescribed property on behalf of
another registrant (in this subsection referred to as the
``principal'') and, but for subsection (1.2), that supply
would be a taxable supply made by the principal,
(b) the auctioneer and principal jointly elect in prescribed
form containing prescribed information in respect of the
particular supply, and
(c) all or substantially all of the consideration for
supplies made by auction on the particular day by the
auctioneer on behalf of the principal is attributable to
supplies of prescribed property in respect of which the
auctioneer and principal have elected under this subsection,
subsection (1.2) does not apply to the particular supply or
to any supply made by the auctioneer to the principal of
services relating to the particular supply.''
The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was agreed to on the
following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine
-- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélanger -- Bellemare
-- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua
-- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Brushett -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis
-- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Clancy -- Cohen
-- Collenette -- Collins -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cullen
-- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky
-- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finlay
-- Fontana -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham
-- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins
-- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis
-- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby
-- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lee -- Lincoln
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney
-- Manley -- McCormick -- McKinnon
-- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague
-- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood)
-- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault
-- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan
-- Patry -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew
-- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud
-- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud
-- Rock -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury)
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle
-- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland)
-- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri
-- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wood -- Zed -- 114
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bachand
-- Bellehumeur -- Bernier -- (Gaspé) -- Brien -- Chatters
-- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Duncan
-- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Gilmour
-- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre)
-- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Jacob
-- Johnston -- Langlois -- Lebel -- Leblanc -- (Longueuil)
-- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mayfield
-- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Mercier
-- Meredith -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond)
-- Plamondon -- Robinson -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Skeena)
-- Silye -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speaker -- Strahl
-- Taylor -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)
-- Venne -- Wayne -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- 51
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Allmand -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Bakopanos
-- Bélisle -- Bergeron
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead)
-- Blondin-Andrew -- Brien -- Byrne -- Canuel -- Cauchon
-- Crête -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion
-- Finestone -- Fry -- Gauthier -- Godin -- Harper -- (Churchill)
-- Landry -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- (Beauharnois -- Salaberry)
-- Lavigne -- (Verdun -- Saint-Paul)
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Leblanc -- (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre
-- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford)
-- MacAulay -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard)
-- Massé -- Ménard -- Parrish -- Payne -- Pomerleau
-- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Shepherd
-- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Verran -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Young
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded
division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot),
seconded by Mr. Pomerleau (Anjou -- Rivière-des-Prairies), -- That
Bill C-70 be amended by deleting Clause
69.1.
The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur
-- Bernier -- (Gaspé) -- Brien -- Dalphond-Guiral
-- de Savoye -- Debien -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Guay
-- Guimond -- Jacob -- Langlois -- Lebel -- Leblanc -- (Longueuil)
-- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Nunez -- Paré
-- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Robinson
-- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- Taylor
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- Wayne -- 30
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Allmand -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Bakopanos
-- Bélisle -- Bergeron
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead)
-- Blondin-Andrew -- Brien -- Byrne -- Canuel -- Cauchon
-- Crête -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion
-- Finestone -- Fry -- Gauthier -- Godin -- Harper -- (Churchill)
-- Landry -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- (Beauharnois -- Salaberry)
-- Lavigne -- (Verdun -- Saint-Paul)
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Leblanc -- (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre
-- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford)
-- MacAulay -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard)
-- Massé -- Ménard -- Parrish -- Payne -- Pomerleau
-- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Shepherd
-- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Verran -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Young
Group No. 2
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 3 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot),
seconded by Mr. Pomerleau (Anjou -- Rivière-des-Prairies), -- That
Bill C-70 be amended by
deleting Clause 150.
The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bachand
-- Bellehumeur -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Brien -- Chatters -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye
-- Debien -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- (Québec)
-- Gilmour -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond
-- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre)
-- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Jacob
-- Johnston -- Langlois -- Lebel -- Leblanc -- (Longueuil)
-- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mayfield
-- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Mercier
-- Meredith -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond)
-- Plamondon -- Robinson -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Skeena)
-- Silye -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speaker -- Strahl
-- Taylor -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)
-- Venne -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- 51
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine
-- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bertrand
-- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria
-- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Caccia
-- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Chamberlain
-- Chan -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins
-- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal
-- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Eggleton
-- English -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Gerrard
-- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Harb
-- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Irwin
-- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes
-- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson
-- Kraft Sloan -- Lee -- Lincoln
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney
-- Manley -- McCormick -- McKinnon
-- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague
-- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood)
-- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault
-- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan
-- Patry -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew
-- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud
-- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud
-- Rock -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury)
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle
-- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland)
-- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri
-- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wayne -- Wood -- Zed -- 114
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Allmand -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Bakopanos
-- Bélisle -- Bergeron
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead)
-- Blondin-Andrew -- Brien -- Byrne -- Canuel -- Cauchon
-- Crête -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion
-- Finestone -- Fry -- Gauthier -- Godin -- Harper -- (Churchill)
-- Landry -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- (Beauharnois -- Salaberry)
-- Lavigne -- (Verdun -- Saint-Paul)
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Leblanc -- (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre
-- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford)
-- MacAulay -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard)
-- Massé -- Ménard -- Parrish -- Payne -- Pomerleau
-- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Shepherd
-- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Verran -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Young
Accordingly, Motions Nos. 6 to 14, 16 to 53, 55 to 59,
61, 64 to 100, 102 to 113, 115 and 117 were also negatived
on the same division.
The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion
No. 4 of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr.
Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), -- That Bill
C-70, in Clause 150, be amended by
(a) adding, in the French version, after line 32 on page 165
the following:
``«activité extracôtière»
a) En ce qui concerne une activité exercée dans la zone
extracôtière de la Nouvelle-Écosse, activité relativement à
laquelle un impôt serait institué sous le régime de
l'article 212 de la Loi de mise en oeuvre de l'Accord
Canada -- Nouvelle-Écosse sur les hydrocarbures extracôtiers si la
présente partie comptait parmi les lois sur l'impôt
indirect, au sens de l'article 211 de cette loi;
b) en ce qui concerne une activité exercée dans la zone
extracôtière de Terre-Neuve, activité relativement à
laquelle un impôt serait institué sous le régime de
l'article 207 de la Loi de mise en oeuvre de l'Accord
atlantique Canada -- Terre-Neuve si la présente partie
comptait parmi les lois sur l'impôt indirect, au sens de
l'article 206 de cette loi.''
(b) adding, in the French version, after line 36 on page 165
the following:
``«province» Y sont assimilées les provinces
participantes.''
(c) replacing, in the French version, lines 1 and 2 on page
166 with the following:
``«province participante» Province ou zone figurant à
l'annexe VIII. La zone extracôtière de la Nouvelle-Écosse et
la zone extracôtière de Terre-Neuve ne sont des provinces
participantes que dans la mesure où des activités
extracôtières y sont exercées.''
(d) adding, in the English version, after line 17 on page
172 the following:
````Newfoundland offshore area'' means the offshore area
as defined in section 2 of the Canada-Newfoundland Atlantic
Accord Implementation Act;''
(e) adding, in the English version, after line 22 on page
172 the following:
````Nova Scotia offshore area'' means the offshore area as
defined in section 2 of the Canada-Nova Scotia Offshore
Petroleum Resources Accord Implementation Act;''
``offshore activity'' means
(a) when used in connection with an activity carried on
in the Nova Scotia offshore area, an activity in respect of
which tax would be imposed under section 212 of the Canada-Nova
Scotia Offshore Petroleum Resources Accord
Implementation Act if this Part were one of the Nova Scotia
Consumption Tax Acts (as defined in section 211 of that
Act); and
(b) when used in connection with an activity carried on
in the Newfoundland offshore area, an activity in respect of
which tax would be imposed under section 207 of the Canada-Newfoundland
Atlantic Accord Implementation Act if this Part
were one of the Newfoundland Consumption Tax Acts (as
defined in section 206 of that Act);''
(f) replacing, in the English version, line 24 on page 172
with the following:
````or area referred to in Schedule VIII, but does not
include the Nova Scotia offshore area or the Newfoundland
offshore area except to the extent that offshore activities
are carried on in that area;
``province'' includes a participating province;''
(g) adding, in the French version, after line 5 on page 173
the following:
``«zone extracôtière de la Nouvelle-Écosse» Zone
extracôtière au sens de l'article 2 de la Loi de mise en
oeuvre de l'Accord Canada -- Nouvelle-Écosse sur les
hydrocarbures extracôtiers.
«zone extracôtière de Terre-Neuve» Zone extracôtière
au sens de l'article 2 de la Loi de mise en oeuvre de
l'Accord atlantique Canada -- Terre-Neuve.''
The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was agreed to on the
following division:
YEAS: 114, NAYS: 51. (See list under Division No. 217)
Accordingly, Motions Nos. 15, 54, 60, 62, 101 and 116
were also agreed to on the same division.
The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion
No. 5 of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr.
Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), -- That Bill
C-70, in Clause 150, be amended by
(a) replacing lines 6 to 8 on page 166 with the following:
``(iii) the tax under section 165 that would have been
payable by the person, in''
(b) replacing line 14 on page 166 with the following:
``ported by the person, but for subsection 153(4),
section 167 or the fact that the property or improvements
were acquired by the person for consumption, use or supply
exclusively in commercial activities,''
(c) replacing lines 27 to 29 on page 169 with the following:
``(iv) the tax under section 165 that would have been
payable by the person, in''
(d) replacing line 33 on page 169 with the following:
``the participating province, but for subsection 153(4),
section 167 or the fact that the improvements were acquired
by the person for consumption, use or supply exclusively in
commercial activities,''
The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was agreed to on the
following division:
YEAS: 114, NAYS: 51. (See list under Division No. 217)
The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion
No. 63 of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr.
Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), -- That Bill
C-70, in Clause 204, be amended by
(a) replacing lines 6 to 13 on page 234 with the following:
``(a) where the supply of the property was made''
(b) replacing lines 21 and 22 on page 234 with the
following:
``(b) notwithstanding paragraph (a), in the case of
prescribed property''
(c) replacing line 26 on page 234 with the following:
``(c) in any other case, the fair market''
(d) replacing lines 31 to 40 on page 234 with the following:
``province becomes payable on the day the property is
delivered or made available to the person in the province.''
(e) replacing line 3 on page 235 with the following:
``(c) the property is a specified motor vehicle that is
required to be registered under the laws of a participating
province relating to the registration of motor vehicles or
the property is included in Part I of''
The question was put on Motion No. 63 and it was agreed to on the
following division:
YEAS: 114, NAYS: 51. (See list under Division No. 217)
The House proceeded to the putting of the question
on Motion No. 114 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot),
seconded by Mr. Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry), -- That Bill
C-70 be amended by adding after line 45 on page 336 the
following:
``253.1 (1) Schedule VI of the Act is amended by
adding the following after Part VII:
Part VII.1
PRINTED BOOKS, AUDIO RECORDINGS OF PRINTED BOOKS AND
VERSIONS OF SCRIPTURES OF ANY RELIGION
1. In this Part, ``printed book'' does not include
anything that is or the main component of which is
(b) a magazine or periodical acquired otherwise than by way
of subscription;
(c) a magazine or periodical in which the printed space
devoted to advertising is more than 5% of the total printed
space;
(d) a brochure or pamphlet;
(e) a sales catalogue, a price list or advertising material;
(f) a warranty booklet or an owner's manual;
(g) a book designed primarily for writing on;
(h) a colouring book or a book designed primarily for
drawing on or affixing thereto, or inserting therein, items
such as clippings, pictures, coins, stamps or stickers;
(i) a cut-out book or a press-out book;
(j) a program relating to an event or performance;
(k) an agenda, calendar, syllabus or timetable;
(l) a directory, an assemblage of charts or an assemblage of
street or road maps, but not including
(ii) an atlas that consists in whole or in part of maps,
other than street or road maps;
(n) an assemblage of blueprints, patterns or stencils;
(o) prescribed property; or
(p) an assemblage or collection of, or any item similar to,
items included in any of paragraphs (a) to (o).
2. The supply of a printed book or an update of such a
book.
3. The supply of an audio recording all or
substantially all of which is a spoken recording of a
printed book.
4. The supply of a bound or unbound printed version of
scripture of any religion.
(2) Subsection (1) comes into force on April 1, 1997.''
The question was put on Motion No. 114 and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS: 51, NAYS: 114. (See list under Division No. 219)
Group No. 3
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded
division on Motion No. 118 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot),
seconded by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), -- That Bill C-70
be amended by deleting Clause 261.
The question was put on Motion No. 118 and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS: 51, NAYS: 114. (See list under Division No. 219)
Accordingly, Motions Nos. 119 and 121 to 124 were also
negatived on the same division.
The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion
No. 120 of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr.
MacAulay (Secretary of State (Veterans)
(Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency)), -- That Bill C-70,
in Clause 262, be amended by
(a) replacing lines 11 and 12 on page 359 with the
following:
``province out of amounts received in a fiscal year
under Part IX of the Excise Tax Act''.
(b) replacing line 30 on page 359 with the following:
``of amounts received in a fiscal year under Part IX of
the Excise Tax Act to a person''
(c) replacing line 41 on page 359 with the following:
``advance out of amounts received in a fiscal year under
Part IX of the Excise Tax Act''
The question was put on Motion No. 120 and it was agreed to on the
following division:
YEAS: 114, NAYS: 51. (See list under Division No. 217)
Group No. 4
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on
Motion No. 125 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Mrs.
Picard (Drummond), -- That Bill C-70 be amended by deleting Clause 270.
The question was put on Motion No. 125 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS: 51, NAYS: 114. (See list under Division No. 219)
Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Goodale (Minister of
Agriculture and Agri-Food), moved, -- That Bill C-70, An Act to amend the Excise
Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax
Act, the Debt Servicing and Reduction Account Act and related Acts, as
amended, be concurred in at report stage with further amendments.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the
following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine
-- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bertrand
-- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria
-- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Caccia
-- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Chamberlain
-- Chan -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins
-- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal
-- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Eggleton
-- English -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Gerrard
-- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Harb
-- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Irwin
-- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes
-- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson
-- Kraft Sloan -- Lee -- Lincoln
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney
-- Manley -- McCormick -- McKinnon
-- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague
-- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood)
-- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault
-- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan
-- Patry -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew
-- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud
-- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud
-- Rock -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury)
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle
-- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland)
-- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri
-- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wood -- Zed -- 113
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bachand
-- Bellehumeur -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Brien -- Chatters -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye
-- Debien -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- (Québec)
-- Gilmour -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond
-- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre)
-- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Jacob
-- Johnston -- Langlois -- Lebel -- Leblanc -- (Longueuil)
-- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mayfield
-- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Mercier
-- Meredith -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond)
-- Plamondon -- Robinson -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Skeena)
-- Silye -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speaker -- Strahl
-- Taylor -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)
-- Venne -- Wayne -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- 52
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Allmand -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Bakopanos
-- Bélisle -- Bergeron
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead)
-- Blondin-Andrew -- Brien -- Byrne -- Canuel -- Cauchon
-- Crête -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion
-- Finestone -- Fry -- Gauthier -- Godin -- Harper -- (Churchill)
-- Landry -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- (Beauharnois -- Salaberry)
-- Lavigne -- (Verdun -- Saint-Paul)
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Leblanc -- (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre
-- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford)
-- MacAulay -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard)
-- Massé -- Ménard -- Parrish -- Payne -- Pomerleau
-- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Shepherd
-- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Verran -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Young
Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage
with further amendments and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting
of the House.
RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited
with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as
follows:
-- by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Health) -- Report on the administration and
operation of the Canada Health Act for the fiscal year ended March 31,
1996, pursuant to the Canada Health Act, R. S. 1985, c. C-6, s.
23. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-458A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5),
permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Health)
PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified
correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:
-- by Mr. Charest (Sherbrooke), one concerning the highway system (No.
352-1669);
-- by Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), one concerning the highway
system (No. 352-1670) and one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1671);
-- by Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa -- Vanier), three concerning the highway system (Nos.
352-1672 to 352-1674), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1675) and one
concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1676).
PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
At 6:55 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the
question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have
been proposed.
After debate, the question was deemed to have been
adopted.
ADJOURNMENT
At 7:11 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until
tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).