HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION
JOURNALS
No. 145
Monday, March 17, 1997
11:00 a.m.
PRAYERS
PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS
At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the
House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members'
Business.
Item No. 1 in the order of precedence, standing on the
Order Paper in the name of Mr. White (North Vancouver), was
called and, not having been proceeded with, was dropped to
the bottom of the order of precedence, pursuant to Standing
Order 42(2).
INTERRUPTION
At 11:18 a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:02 p.m., the sitting resumed.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
The Order was read for the consideration of an
amendment made by the Senate to Bill C-70, An Act to amend
the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial Fiscal
Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Act, the Debt Servicing and
Reduction Account Act and related Acts.
Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Health) for Mr. Martin
(Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Marchi (Minister of
the Environment), moved, -- That the amendment made by the
Senate to Bill C-70, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, the
Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax
Act, the Debt Servicing and Reduction Account Act and
related Acts, be now read a second time and concurred in;
but
That this House, while disapproving of any infraction
of its privileges or rights by the other House, in this case
waives its claim to insist upon such rights and privileges,
but the waiver of said rights and privileges is not to be
drawn into a precedent; and
That a Message be sent to the Senate to acquaint Their
Honours therewith.
Debate arose thereon.
Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Strahl
(Fraser Valley East), moved the following amendment, -- That
the motion be amended in the first paragraph by deleting all
the words after the word ``That'' and substituting the
following:
``this House agrees with the principle set out in the
amendment made by the Senate to Bill C-70, An Act to amend
the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial Fiscal
Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Act, the Debt Servicing and
Reduction Account Act and related Acts, but would propose
that the amendment be amended to read as follows:
Pages 334 and 335, clause 242: Replace lines 40 to 45 on
page 334 and lines 1 to 4 on page 335 with the following:
``Subsection (1) comes into force on a day fixed by order of
the Governor in Council, which day shall not be before the
first day on which all provinces have enacted laws requiring
that suppliers include the tax under Part IX of the Act in
indications of the prices of property or services
supplied.''''
STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS
Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.
ORAL QUESTIONS
Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded
to Oral Questions.
DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS
Tabling of Documents
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to
the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, --
Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following
petitions:
-- No. 352-1798 concerning the appointment of justices. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8545-352-109F;
-- No. 352-1806 concerning profits from crime. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8545-352-97Q;
-- No. 352-1810 concerning sexual orientation. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8545-352-45CC.
Introduction of Private Members' Bills
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion
of Mr. Abbott (Kootenay East), seconded by Mr. Hanger
(Calgary Northeast), Bill C-386, An Act to amend the
Criminal Code (probation order), was introduced, read the
first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second
reading at the next sitting of the House.
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion
of Mr. Abbott (Kootenay East), seconded by Mr. Hanger
(Calgary Northeast), Bill C-387, An Act to require that in
the advertising and at the opening of a cultural project
supported by public money a public acknowledgement of the
grant be made, was introduced, read the first time, ordered
to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next
sitting of the House.
Presenting Petitions
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk
of Petitions were presented as follows:
-- by Mr. Harb (Ottawa Centre), one concerning the highway system (No.
352-1927);
-- by Mr. Hanger (Calgary Northeast), seven concerning sex offenders (Nos.
352-1928 to 352-1934) and one concerning refugees and immigrants convicted
of a crime (No. 352-1935);
-- by Ms. McLaughlin (Yukon), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1936);
-- by Mr. Steckle (Huron -- Bruce), one concerning police and firefighters'
death benefits (No. 352-1937);
-- by Mr. Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury), one concerning sexual abuse of
children (No. 352-1938), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1939) and
two concerning the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (Nos. 352-1940 and
352-1941);
-- by Mr. McGuire (Egmont), one concerning the highway system (No.
352-1942);
-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning police and firefighters'
death benefits (No. 352-1943) and one concerning the income tax system (No.
352-1944);
-- by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay East), one concerning federal electoral districts
(No. 352-1945);
-- by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), one concerning the nuclear
industry (No. 352-1946);
-- by Mr. Flis (Parkdale -- High Park), one concerning NATO (No. 352-1947).
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
The Order was read for the second reading and reference
to the Standing Committee on Finance of Bill C-82, An Act to
amend certain laws relating to financial institutions.
Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial
Institutions)) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance),
seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), moved, -- That
the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the
Standing Committee on Finance.
Debate arose thereon.
QUORUM
The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a
quorum and, fewer than 20 Members having been counted,
pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to
call in the Members.
After one minute, a quorum was found.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr.
Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Anderson
(Minister of Transport), -- That Bill C-82, An Act to amend
certain laws relating to financial institutions, be now read
a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on
Finance.
The debate continued.
Mr. Silye (Calgary Centre), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz
(Yorkton -- Melville), moved the following amendment, -- That the
motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word
``That'' and substituting the following:
``Bill C-82, An Act to amend certain laws relating to
financial institutions, be not now read a second time, but
that the Order be discharged, the Bill withdrawn and the
subject-matter thereof referred to the Standing Committee on
Industry.''
Debate arose thereon.
At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Order made Wednesday, March
12, 1997, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded
division on the motion of Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Labour
and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of
Commons), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Secretary of State
(Veterans) (Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency)), -- That, in
relation to Bill C-66, An Act to amend the Canada Labour
Code (Part I) and the Corporations and Labour Unions Returns
Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, not
more than one further sitting day shall be allotted to the
consideration of the third reading stage of the Bill; and
That fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time
provided for Government Business on the day allotted to the
consideration of the third reading stage of the said Bill,
any proceedings before the House shall be interrupted, if
required for the purpose of this Order, and, in turn, every
question necessary for the disposal of the said stage of the
Bill shall be put forthwith and successively, without
further debate or amendment.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to
on the following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Augustine
-- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare
-- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Brushett
-- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain
-- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Culbert -- Cullen
-- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Dromisky -- Duhamel
-- Dupuy -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Flis
-- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway
-- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri
-- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey
-- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson
-- Jordan -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby
-- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lee -- Lincoln
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi
-- Maloney -- Marchi -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire
-- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy
-- Murray -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish
-- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney
-- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud
-- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Robichaud
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant)
-- Szabo -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Verran
-- Walker -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 105
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur
-- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie
-- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac)
-- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye
-- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dumas -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth
-- Frazer -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel
-- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre)
-- Hart -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Jacob -- Lalonde
-- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lebel
-- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford)
-- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest)
-- McLaughlin -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Plamondon
-- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Silye -- Speaker
-- Strahl -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)
-- Venne -- Wayne -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 58
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Bakopanos -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Calder -- Collins -- Daviault -- Dubé -- Duceppe
-- Easter -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Goodale -- Lastewka
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier
-- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Ur -- Vanclief
Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the
deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-32, An Act to amend the
Copyright Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage with
amendments.
Group No. 1
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Arseneault
(Parliamentary Secretary to the Deputy Prime Minister and
Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Bélanger
(Ottawa -- Vanier), -- That Bill C-32, in Clause 1, be amended by
replacing, in the English version, lines 23 to 25 on page 2
with the following:
``wise include a copy made with the consent of the owner of
the copyright in the country where the copy was made;''
The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was agreed to on the
following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Althouse -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian
-- Asselin -- Augustine
-- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle
-- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bethel
-- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin
-- Brushett -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon
-- Chamberlain -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- Cohen
-- Collenette -- Copps -- Crête -- Culbert -- Cullen
-- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Debien
-- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Dromisky
-- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion
-- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano
-- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose
-- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill)
-- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno
-- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan
-- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson
-- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin
-- Lebel -- Lee -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe)
-- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Lincoln
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi
-- Maloney -- Marchi -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire
-- McLaughlin -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Minna -- Mitchell
-- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan
-- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney
-- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon
-- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson
-- Robichaud -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant)
-- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Torsney
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Valeri
-- Venne -- Verran -- Walker -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 142
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cummins
-- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River)
-- Grubel -- Hanger -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre)
-- Hart -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Mayfield
-- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Meredith
-- Morrison -- Silye -- Speaker -- Strahl -- Wayne
-- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 23
Accordingly, Motions Nos. 8, 9, 10, 11, 39, 42, 43 and
46 were also agreed to on the same division.
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 48 of Mr. Abbott (Kootenay
East), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 45, be amended by deleting lines 17 to
43 on page 71 and lines 1 to 37 on page 72.
The question was put on Motion No. 48 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cummins
-- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River)
-- Grubel -- Hanger -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre)
-- Hart -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Mayfield
-- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Meredith
-- Morrison -- Silye -- Speaker -- Strahl -- Wayne
-- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 23
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Althouse -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian
-- Asselin -- Augustine
-- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle
-- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bethel
-- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin
-- Brushett -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon
-- Chamberlain -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- Cohen
-- Collenette -- Copps -- Crête -- Culbert -- Cullen
-- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Debien
-- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Dromisky
-- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion
-- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano
-- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose
-- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill)
-- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno
-- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan
-- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson
-- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin
-- Lebel -- Lee -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe)
-- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Lincoln
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi
-- Maloney -- Marchi -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire
-- McLaughlin -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Minna -- Mitchell
-- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan
-- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney
-- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon
-- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson
-- Robichaud -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant)
-- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Torsney
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Valeri
-- Venne -- Verran -- Walker -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 142
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Bakopanos -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Calder -- Collins -- Daviault -- Dubé -- Duceppe
-- Easter -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Goodale -- Lastewka
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier
-- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Ur -- Vanclief
The House proceeded to the putting of the question on
Motion No. 49 of Mr. Arseneault (Parliamentary Secretary to
the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Canadian
Heritage), seconded by Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa -- Vanier), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 45, be amended by replacing, in the
English version, line 6 on page 72 with the following:
``royalties, in respect of each of the first three''
The question was put on Motion No. 49 and it was agreed to on the
following division:
YEAS: 142, NAYS: 23. (See list under Division No. 261)
Group No. 2
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 5 of Mr. Abbott (Kootenay
East), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 14, be amended by deleting lines 3 to
38 on page 16, 1 to 48 on page 17, 1 to 43 on page 18, 1 to
40 on.page 19, 1 to 44 on page 20, 1 to 14 on page 21, 6 to
45 on page 22, 1 to 44 on page 23, 1 to 40 on page 24, 1 to
44 on page 25 and 1 to 16 on page 26.
The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS: 23, NAYS: 142. (See list under Division No. 262)
Accordingly, Motions Nos. 2, 3, 50, 51 and 52 were also
negatived on the same division.
Group No. 3
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe),
seconded by Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing lines
33 to 41 on page 14 with the following:
``(2) A person who for private and domestic purposes
commissions the taking of a photograph or the making of a
film has, where copyright subsists in the resulting work,
the right not to have
(a) copies of the work issued to the public,
(b) the work exhibited or shown in public, or
(c) the work broadcast or included in a cable programme
service,
and a person who does or authorizes the doing of any of
those acts, without the consent of the person who
commissions the photograph or film, infringes that right.''
The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron
-- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie
-- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral
-- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dumas
-- Fillion -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Lalonde -- Landry
-- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe)
-- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- McLaughlin -- Nunez -- Plamondon
-- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Silye
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- 36
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Augustine
-- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare
-- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin
-- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brushett
-- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain
-- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Culbert -- Cullen
-- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Dromisky
-- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finestone
-- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney
-- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Gouk
-- Graham -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Grubel
-- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill)
-- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hickey
-- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno
-- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan
-- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson
-- Kraft Sloan -- Lee -- Lincoln
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi
-- Maloney -- Marchi -- Massé -- Mayfield
-- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McCormick
-- McGuire -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Minna
-- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault
-- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric
-- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent)
-- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson
-- Robichaud -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury)
-- Serré -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Speaker -- Steckle
-- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi
-- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Verran -- Walker
-- Wayne -- Whelan -- White -- (North Vancouver)
-- Williams -- Wood -- Zed -- 129
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Bakopanos -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Calder -- Collins -- Daviault -- Dubé -- Duceppe
-- Easter -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Goodale -- Lastewka
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier
-- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Ur -- Vanclief
Group No. 4
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Arseneault
(Parliamentary Secretary to the Deputy Prime Minister and
Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Bélanger
(Ottawa -- Vanier), -- That Bill C-32, in Clause 15, be
amended by replacing
(a) line 29 on page 27 with the following:
``27.1 (1) Subject to any regulations made under
subsection (6), it is an''
(b) line 1 on page 28 with the following:
``(2) Subject to any regulations made under subsection
(6), where the''
The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was agreed to on the
following division:
YEAS: 142, NAYS: 23. (See list under Division No. 261)
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 44 of Mr. Abbott (Kootenay
East), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 28, be amended by replacing lines 22 to
26 on page 62 with the following:
``where they were made, of any used books.''
The question was put on Motion No. 44 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS: 23, NAYS: 142. (See list under Division No. 262)
The House proceeded to the putting of the question on
Motion No. 60 of Mr. Arseneault (Parliamentary Secretary to
the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Canadian
Heritage), seconded by Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa -- Vanier), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 62, be amended by adding after line 18
on page 96 the following:
``(3) Notwithstanding paragraph (1)(d), paragraph
45(1)(e) of the Copyright Act, as enacted by section 28 of
this Act, shall be read as follows for the period beginning
on June 30, 1996 and ending on the day that is sixty days
after the day on which this Act is assented to:
(e) to import copies, made with the consent of the
owner of the copyright in the country where they were made,
of any used books.''
The question was put on Motion No. 60 and it was agreed to on the
following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian
-- Asselin -- Augustine
-- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle
-- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bethel
-- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin
-- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brushett
-- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain
-- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- Cohen -- Collenette
-- Copps -- Crête -- Culbert -- Cullen -- Cummins
-- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Debien
-- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Dromisky
-- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk
-- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth
-- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway
-- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grey -- (Beaver River)
-- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger
-- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre)
-- Hart -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hill -- (Macleod)
-- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson
-- Jacob -- Jordan -- Kilger -- (Stormont - Dundas)
-- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry
-- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lee
-- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford)
-- Lincoln -- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys)
-- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchi -- Massé -- Mayfield
-- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McCormick
-- McGuire -- McLaughlin -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith
-- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray
-- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish
-- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney
-- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon
-- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson
-- Robichaud -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré
-- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Speaker -- Steckle
-- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi
-- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)
-- Valeri -- Venne -- Verran -- Walker -- Wayne -- Whelan
-- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood
-- Zed -- 165
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- 0
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Bakopanos -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Calder -- Collins -- Daviault -- Dubé -- Duceppe
-- Easter -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Goodale -- Lastewka
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier
-- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Ur -- Vanclief
Group No. 5
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 7 of Mr. Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe),
seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), -- That Bill C-32,
in Clause 18, be amended by adding after line 2 on page 30
the following:
``29.21 Section 29.5, subsections 29.6(1), 29.7(1) and
29.7(3), section 30, subsections 30.2(1), (2) and (5) and
section 30.5 do not apply in relation to works, performers'
performances, sound recordings or communication signals that
form part of the repertoire of a collective society.''
The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron
-- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie
-- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral
-- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dumas
-- Fillion -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Lalonde -- Landry
-- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe)
-- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- McLaughlin -- Nunez -- Plamondon
-- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- 35
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Augustine
-- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare
-- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin
-- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brushett
-- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain
-- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Culbert -- Cullen
-- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Dromisky
-- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finestone
-- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney
-- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Gouk
-- Graham -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Grubel
-- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill)
-- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hickey
-- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno
-- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan
-- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson
-- Kraft Sloan -- Lee -- Lincoln
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi
-- Maloney -- Marchi -- Massé -- Mayfield
-- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McCormick
-- McGuire -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Minna
-- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault
-- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric
-- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent)
-- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson
-- Robichaud -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury)
-- Serré -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Speaker
-- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Strahl -- Szabo
-- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Verran
-- Walker -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White -- (North Vancouver)
-- Williams -- Wood -- Zed -- 130
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Bakopanos -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Calder -- Collins -- Daviault -- Dubé -- Duceppe
-- Easter -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Goodale -- Lastewka
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier
-- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Ur -- Vanclief
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 54 of Mr. Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe),
seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), -- That Bill C-32,
in Clause 50, be amended by adding after line 32 on page 81
the following:
``77.1 (1) Notwithstanding section 77, where the act for
which a licence is being sought is administered by a
collective society referred to in section 70.1,
(a) the application shall be made to the collective society;
(b) the collective society shall determine whether the
conditions set out in subsection 77(1) have been met;
(c) the collective society shall have the power to issue a
licence; and
(d) the terms of the licence issued by the collective
society shall not be more onerous than those set out in the
society's licensing scheme.
(2) Where the applicant and the collective society are
unable to agree on the royalties to be paid for the right to
do the act or on their related terms and conditions, either
of them may apply to the Board to fix the royalties and
their related terms and conditions pursuant to subsection
70.2(1).
(3) Subsections 77(2), (3) and (4) apply, with such
modifications as the circumstances require, to applications
made pursuant to subsection (1).''
The question was put on Motion No. 54 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS: 35, NAYS: 130. (See list under Division No. 265)
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 57 of Mr. Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe),
seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), -- That Bill C-32,
in Clause 53.1, be amended by replacing lines 21 to 23 on
page 93 with the following:
``53.1 Notwithstanding subsection 67.1(2), section 70.13
and subsections 71(3) and 83(4) of the Copyright Act, as
enacted by sections 45, 46 and 50 of this Act, the''
The question was put on Motion No. 57 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS: 35, NAYS: 130. (See list under Division No. 265)
Group No. 6
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 13 of Mr. Arseneault
(Parliamentary Secretary to the Deputy Prime Minister and
Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Lincoln
(Lachine -- Lac-Saint-Louis), -- That Bill C-32, in Clause 18,
be amended by replacing lines 10 to 23 on page 37 with the
following:
``(5) Where an archive requires the consent of the
copyright owner to copy an unpublished work deposited in the
archive before the coming into force of this section but is
unable to locate the owner, the archive may copy the work in
accordance with subsection (3).
(6) The archive must make a record of any copy made
under subsection (5), and keep it available for public
inspection, as prescribed.
(7) It is not an infringement of copyright for an
archive to make a copy, in accordance with subsection (3),
of any''
The question was put on Motion No. 13 and it was agreed to on the
following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Althouse -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian
-- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare
-- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar
-- Bonin -- Brushett -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall
-- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps
-- Culbert -- Cullen -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dingwall
-- Dion -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- English -- Fewchuk
-- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano
-- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose
-- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard
-- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin
-- Jackson -- Jordan -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas)
-- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lee -- Lincoln
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi
-- Maloney -- Marchi -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire
-- McLaughlin -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Minna -- Mitchell
-- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan
-- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney
-- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud
-- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Robichaud
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant)
-- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Valeri
-- Verran -- Walker -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 112
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Asselin -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron
-- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead)
-- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac)
-- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye
-- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dumas -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth
-- Frazer -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel
-- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre)
-- Hart -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Jacob -- Lalonde
-- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lebel
-- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford)
-- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest)
-- Meredith -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau
-- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Silye -- Speaker -- Strahl
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne
-- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 53
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Bakopanos -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Calder -- Collins -- Daviault -- Dubé -- Duceppe
-- Easter -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Goodale -- Lastewka
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier
-- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Ur -- Vanclief
Accordingly, the question was not put on Motions Nos.
14 and 15.
Group No. 7
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 17 of Mr. Arseneault
(Parliamentary Secretary to the Deputy Prime Minister and
Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Lincoln
(Lachine -- Lac-Saint-Louis), -- That Bill C-32, in Clause 18,
be amended by
(a) replacing lines 12 to 19 on page 40 with the following:
``copyright for a programming undertaking to fix or reproduce
in accordance with this section a performer's performance or
work, other than a cinematographic work, that is performed
live or a sound recording that is performed at the same time
as the performer's performance or work, if the undertaking''
(b) replacing lines 25 to 32 on page 40 with the following:
``itself, for its own broadcasts;
(c) does not synchronize the fixation or reproduction with
all or part of another recording, performer's performance or
work; and
(d) does not cause the fixation or reproduction to be used
in an advertisement intended to sell or promote, as the case
may be, a product, service, cause or institution.
(2) The programming undertaking must record the dates
of the making and destruction of all fixations and
reproductions and any other prescribed information about the
fixation or reproduction, and keep the record current."
(c) replacing lines 37 to 40 on page 41 with the following:
``ing meets the conditions set out in subsection (1) and is
part of a prescribed network that includes the programming
undertaking.''
(d) adding after line 8 on page 42 the following:
``(11) In this section, ``programming undertaking'' means
(a) a programming undertaking as defined in the Broadcasting
Act;
(b) a programming undertaking described in paragraph (a)
that originates programs within a network, as defined in the
Broadcasting Act; or
(c) a distribution undertaking as defined in the
Broadcasting Act, in respect of the programs that it
originates.
The undertaking must hold a broadcasting licence issued by
the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications
Commission under the Broadcasting Act.
30.9 (1) It is not an infringement of copyright for a
broadcasting undertaking to reproduce in accordance with
this section a sound recording, or a performer's performance
or work that is embodied in a sound recording, solely for
the purpose of transferring it to a format appropriate for
broadcasting, if the undertaking
(a) owns the copy of the sound recording, performer's
performance or work and that copy is authorized by the owner
of the copyright;
(b) is authorized to communicate the sound recording,
performer's performance or work to the public by
telecommunication;
(c) makes the reproduction itself, for its own broadcasts;
(d) does not synchronize the reproduction with all or part
of another recording, performer's performance or work; and
(e) does not cause the reproduction to be used in an
advertisement intended to sell or promote, as the case may
be, a product, service, cause or institution.
(2) The broadcasting undertaking must record the dates
of the making and destruction of all reproductions and any
other prescribed information about the reproduction, and
keep the record current.
(3) The broadcasting undertaking must make the record
referred to in subsection (2) available to owners of
copyright in the sound recordings, performer's performances
or works, or their representatives, within twenty-four hours
after receiving a request.
(4) The broadcasting undertaking must destroy the
reproduction when it no longer possesses the sound recording
or performer's performance or work embodied in the sound
recording, or at the latest within thirty days after making
the reproduction, unless the copyright owner authorizes the
reproduction to be retained.
(5) If the copyright owner authorizes the reproduction
to be retained, the broadcasting undertaking must pay any
applicable royalty.
(6) This section does not apply if a licence is
available from a collective society to reproduce the sound
recording, performer's performance or work.
(7) In this section, ``broadcasting undertaking'' means a
broadcasting undertaking as defined in the Broadcasting Act
that holds a broadcasting licence issued by the Canadian
Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission under
that Act.''
The question was put on Motion No. 17 and it was agreed to on the
following division:
YEAS: 142, NAYS: 23. (See list under Division No. 261)
Accordingly, the question was not put on Motions Nos.
19, 20 and 33.
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 24 of Mrs. Chamberlain
(Guelph -- Wellington), seconded by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Middlesex), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 18, be amended by
replacing line 3 on page 41 with the following:
``sixty days after the first broadcast of the fixation or
reproduction, unless''
The question was put on Motion No. 24 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Althouse -- Blaikie -- Chamberlain -- de Jong -- McLaughlin
-- Peric -- Telegdi -- Wayne -- 8
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Asselin
-- Augustine -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger
-- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron
-- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bethel
-- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin
-- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brushett
-- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon
-- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- Cohen -- Collenette
-- Copps -- Crête -- Culbert -- Cullen -- Cummins
-- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Deshaies
-- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Dromisky -- Duhamel
-- Dumas -- Dupuy -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Fillion
-- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer
-- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gerrard
-- Godfrey -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grey -- (Beaver River)
-- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger
-- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre)
-- Hart -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hill -- (Macleod)
-- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson
-- Jacob -- Jordan -- Kilger -- (Stormont - Dundas)
-- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry
-- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lee
-- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford)
-- Lincoln -- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys)
-- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchi -- Massé -- Mayfield
-- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McCormick
-- McGuire -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Minna
-- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault
-- Nunez -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry
-- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent)
-- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed
-- Regan -- Richardson -- Robichaud -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré
-- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Speaker -- Steckle
-- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thalheimer
-- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)
-- Valeri -- Venne -- Verran -- Walker -- Whelan
-- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood
-- Zed -- 156
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Bakopanos -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Calder -- Collins -- Daviault -- Dubé -- Duceppe
-- Easter -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Goodale -- Lastewka
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier
-- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Ur -- Vanclief
The House proceeded to the putting of the question on
Motion No. 25 of Mr. Abbott (Kootenay East), seconded by Mr.
Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That Bill C-32, in Clause 18,
be amended by replacing line 3 on page 41 with the
following:
``six months after making it, unless''
The question was put on Motion No. 25 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS: 23, NAYS: 142. (See list under Division No. 262)
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 26 of Mrs. Chamberlain
(Guelph -- Wellington), seconded by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Middlesex), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 18, be amended by
replacing line 4 on page 41 with the following:
``(a) the copyright owner or that owner's representative
authorizes its''
The question was put on Motion No. 26 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Althouse -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie
-- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Chamberlain
-- Cummins -- de Jong -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gouk
-- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger
-- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hill -- (Macleod)
-- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest)
-- McLaughlin -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Silye -- Speaker
-- Strahl -- Wayne -- White -- (North Vancouver)
-- Williams -- 29
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Asselin
-- Augustine -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger
-- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron
-- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bethel
-- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Brushett -- Caccia
-- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac)
-- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Crête -- Culbert
-- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien
-- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Dromisky
-- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion
-- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano
-- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose
-- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill)
-- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno
-- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan
-- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson
-- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin
-- Lebel -- Lee -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe)
-- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Lincoln
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi
-- Maloney -- Marchi -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire
-- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy
-- Murray -- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan
-- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney
-- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon
-- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson
-- Robichaud -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant)
-- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Torsney
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Valeri
-- Venne -- Verran -- Walker -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 135
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Bakopanos -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Calder -- Collins -- Daviault -- Dubé -- Duceppe
-- Easter -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Goodale -- Lastewka
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier
-- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Ur -- Vanclief
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 27 of Mrs. Chamberlain
(Guelph -- Wellington), seconded by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Middlesex), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 18, be amended by
deleting lines 8 to 11 on page 41.
The question was put on Motion No. 27 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Althouse -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie
-- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cummins -- de Jong
-- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River)
-- Grubel -- Hanger -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre)
-- Hart -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Mayfield
-- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McLaughlin
-- Meredith -- Morrison -- Silye -- Speaker -- Strahl
-- Wayne -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 28
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Asselin
-- Augustine -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger
-- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron
-- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bethel
-- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Brushett -- Caccia
-- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain
-- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- Cohen -- Collenette
-- Copps -- Crête -- Culbert -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral
-- de Savoye -- Debien -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dingwall
-- Dion -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- English
-- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana
-- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gerrard
-- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond
-- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey
-- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson
-- Jacob -- Jordan -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas)
-- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry
-- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lee
-- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford)
-- Lincoln -- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys)
-- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchi -- Massé -- McCormick
-- McGuire -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Minna -- Mitchell
-- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan
-- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney
-- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon
-- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson
-- Robichaud -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant)
-- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Torsney
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Valeri
-- Venne -- Verran -- Walker -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 136
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Bakopanos -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Calder -- Collins -- Daviault -- Dubé -- Duceppe
-- Easter -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Goodale -- Lastewka
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier
-- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Ur -- Vanclief
The House proceeded to the putting of the question on
Motion No. 28 of Mr. Abbott (Kootenay East), seconded by Mr.
Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That Bill C-32, in Clause 18,
be amended by replacing line 10 on page 41 with the
following:
``after the six months, the programming under-''
The question was put on Motion No. 28 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS: 23, NAYS: 142. (See list under Division No. 262)
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 29 of Mrs. Chamberlain
(Guelph -- Wellington), seconded by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Middlesex), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 18, be amended by
replacing lines 14 to 16 on page 41 with the following:
``exceptional documentary character, the undertaking may
deposit it in an archive and''
The question was put on Motion No. 29 and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS: 8, NAYS: 156. (See list under Division No. 267)
Accordingly, Motion No. 30 was also negatived on the
same division.
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 31 of Mrs. Chamberlain
(Guelph -- Wellington), seconded by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Middlesex), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 18, be amended by
deleting lines 25 to 29 on page 41.
The question was put on Motion No. 31 and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS: 23, NAYS: 142. (See list under Division No. 262)
The House proceeded to the putting of the question on
Motion No. 32 of Mr. Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe), seconded by
Mrs. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-32, in
Clause 18, be amended by replacing lines 25 to 29 on page 41
with the following:
``(8) This section does not apply where a collective
society is authorized to grant a licence to the programming
undertaking to make the fixation or reproduction of the
performer's performance, work or sound recording.''
The question was put on Motion No. 32 and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS: 35, NAYS: 130. (See list under Division No. 265)
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 34 of Mrs. Chamberlain
(Guelph -- Wellington), seconded by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Middlesex), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 18, be amended by
replacing lines 5 to 8 on page 42 with the following:
``(b) within sixty days after the day on which the
broadcasting undertaking first broadcasts the fixation or
reproduction.''
The question was put on Motion No. 34 and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS: 8, NAYS: 156. (See list under Division No. 267)
The House proceeded to the putting of the question on
Motion No. 35 of Mr. Abbott (Kootenay East), seconded by Mr.
Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That Bill C-32, in Clause 18,
be amended by replacing line 6 on page 42 with the
following:
``(b) within six months after the day on which ''
The question was put on Motion No. 35 and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS: 23, NAYS: 142. (See list under Division No. 262)
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 36 of Mrs. Chamberlain
(Guelph -- Wellington), seconded by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Middlesex), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 18, be amended by
adding after line 8 on page 42 the following:
``30.9 (1) Notwithstanding any other provision in this
Act, there is deemed to have been no infringement of
copyright where a broadcasting undertaking, within the
meaning of the Broadcasting Act, on or after August 16,
1990, but before the coming into force of section 30.8,
fixed or reproduced a performer's performance or work, other
than a cinematographic work or sound recording, if the
undertaking
(a) was authorized to communicate the performer's
performance, work or sound recording to the public by
telecommunication;
(b) made the fixation or the reproduction itself, for its
own broadcasts; and
(c) did not use the fixation or reproduction to promote a
commercial product or service.
(2) For greater certainty, paragraph (1)(a) applies in
respect of any proceeding commenced on or after August 16,
1990, but not concluded before the coming into force of
section 30.8, and paragraph (1)(b) does not affect any
proceeding commenced on or after August 16, 1990, but
concluded before the coming into force of section 30.8, or
any order made pursuant to that proceeding.''
The question was put on Motion No. 36 and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Bhaduria -- Chamberlain -- Wayne -- 3
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian
-- Asselin -- Augustine -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair
-- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron
-- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bethel
-- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin
-- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brushett
-- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon
-- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- Cohen -- Collenette
-- Copps -- Crête -- Culbert -- Cullen -- Cummins
-- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Debien
-- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Dromisky
-- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk
-- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth
-- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway
-- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grey -- (Beaver River)
-- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger
-- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre)
-- Hart -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hill -- (Macleod)
-- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson
-- Jacob -- Jordan -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas)
-- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry
-- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lee
-- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford)
-- Lincoln -- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys)
-- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchi -- Massé -- Mayfield
-- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McCormick
-- McGuire -- McLaughlin -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith
-- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray
-- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish
-- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney
-- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon
-- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson
-- Robichaud -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré
-- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Speaker -- Steckle
-- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi
-- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)
-- Valeri -- Venne -- Verran -- Walker -- Whelan
-- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood
-- Zed -- 161
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Bakopanos -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Calder -- Collins -- Daviault -- Dubé -- Duceppe
-- Easter -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Goodale -- Lastewka
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier
-- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Ur -- Vanclief
Accordingly, Motion No. 58 was also negatived on the
same division.
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 37 of Mrs. Chamberlain
(Guelph -- Wellington), seconded by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Middlesex), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 18, be amended by
adding after line 8 on page 42 the following:
``30.9 It is not an infringement of copyright for any
broadcaster to reproduce any work, performer's performance
or sound recording that it is legally entitled to broadcast
solely for the purposes of transferring that work,
performer's performance or sound recording to a technical
format that is appropriate for the purposes of its
broadcasts, provided that all such reproductions shall be
destroyed immediately when the broadcaster ceases to be
legally entitled to broadcast the work or other subject-
matter.
30.10 (1) Notwithstanding any other provision in this
Act, there is deemed to have been no infringement of
copyright where a broadcaster, on or after August 16, 1990
but before the coming into force of section 30.9, reproduced
any work, performer's performance or sound recording that it
was legally entitled to broadcast solely for the purposes of
transferring that work, performer's performance or sound
recording to a technical format that was appropriate for the
purposes of its broadcasts, provided that all such
reproductions shall be destroyed immediately after the day
section 30.9 comes into force where the broadcaster on or
before that day ceases to be legally entitled to broadcast
the work or other subject-matter.
(2) For greater certainty, subsection (1)
(a) applies in respect of any proceeding commenced on or
after August 16, 1990, but not concluded before the coming
into force of section 30.8; and
(b) does not affect any proceeding commenced on or after
August 16, 1990, but concluded before the coming into force
of section 30.8, or any order made pursuant to that
proceeding.''
The question was put on Motion No. 37 and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS: 3, NAYS: 161. (See list under Division No. 270)
Accordingly, Motion No. 59 was also negatived on the
same division.
The House proceeded to the putting of the question on
Motion No. 38 of Mr. Abbott (Kootenay East), seconded by Mr.
Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That Bill C-32, in Clause 18,
be amended by adding after line 8 on page 42 the following:
``30.9 It is not an infringement of copyright for any
broadcaster to
(a) reproduce any work or other subject-matter that it is
legally entitled to broadcast, where it does so for the
purposes of transferring that work or other subject-matter
to a technical format that is appropriate for the purposes
of its broadcasts, providing that the reproduction:
(i) is essential for the compatibility of the broadcast
medium,
(ii) is used solely to facilitate the day-to-day operations
of the broadcaster, and
(iii) is, when the broadcaster ceases to be legally entitled
to broadcast the work or other subject-matter, immediately
destroyed by the broadcaster; or
(b) make a single reproduction for backup purposes of any
work or other subject-matter reproduced under paragraph (a),
providing the reproduction for backup purposes is destroyed
by the broadcaster immediately following the broadcast of
the original subject-matter for which a backup was made.''
The question was put on Motion No. 38 and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS: 23, NAYS: 142. (See list under Division No. 262)
Group No. 8
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 40 of Mr. Abbott (Kootenay
East), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 19, be amended by deleting lines 1 to
28 on page 46.
The question was put on Motion No. 40 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS: 23, NAYS: 142. (See list under Division No. 262)
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 41 of Mr. Abbott (Kootenay
East), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 19, be amended by deleting lines 29 to
41 on page 46, and lines 1 to 17 on page 47.
The question was put on Motion No. 41 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS: 23, NAYS: 142. (See list under Division No. 262)
Group No. 9
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 45 of Mr. Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe),
seconded by Mrs. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That
Bill C-32 be amended by deleting Clause 44.
The question was put on Motion No. 45 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur
-- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie
-- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac)
-- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye
-- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dumas -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth
-- Frazer -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel
-- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre)
-- Hart -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Jacob -- Lalonde
-- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lebel
-- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford)
-- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest)
-- McLaughlin -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Plamondon
-- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Silye -- Speaker
-- Strahl -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)
-- Venne -- Wayne -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 58
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Augustine
-- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare
-- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin
-- Brushett -- Caccia -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain
-- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Culbert -- Cullen
-- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Dromisky -- Duhamel
-- Dupuy -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Flis
-- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway
-- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri
-- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey
-- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson
-- Jordan -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby
-- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lee -- Lincoln
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi
-- Maloney -- Marchi -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire
-- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy
-- Murray -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish
-- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pillitteri
-- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Robichaud
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant)
-- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Valeri
-- Verran -- Walker -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 104
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Bakopanos -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Calder -- Collins -- Daviault -- Dubé -- Duceppe
-- Easter -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Goodale -- Lastewka
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier
-- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Ur -- Vanclief
Group No. 10
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred
recorded division on Motion No. 55 of Mr. Abbott (Kootenay
East), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That
Bill C-32, in Clause 50, be amended by deleting lines 21 to
38 on page 82, 1 to 47 on page 83, 1 to 41 on page 84, 1 to
46 on page 85, 1 to 44 on page 86, 1 to 44 on page 87, 1 to
46 on page 88, 1 to 46 on page 89, 1 to 42 on page 90 and 1
to 34 on page 91.
The question was put on Motion No. 55 and it was negatived on the
following division:
YEAS: 23, NAYS: 142. (See list under Division No. 262)
Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by
Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Labour and Deputy Leader of the
Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That Bill C-32,
An Act to amend the Copyright Act, as amended, be concurred
in at report stage with further amendments.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the
following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Asselin
-- Augustine -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger
-- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron
-- Bernier -- (Gaspé)
-- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bethel
-- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Brushett -- Caccia
-- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac)
-- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Crête -- Culbert
-- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien
-- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Dromisky
-- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion
-- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano
-- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose
-- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill)
-- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno
-- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan
-- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson
-- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin
-- Lebel -- Lee -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe)
-- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Lincoln
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi
-- Maloney -- Marchi -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire
-- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy
-- Murray -- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan
-- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney
-- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed
-- Regan -- Richardson -- Robichaud -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant)
-- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Torsney
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Valeri
-- Venne -- Verran -- Walker -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 134
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Althouse -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie
-- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cummins -- de Jong
-- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River)
-- Grubel -- Hanger -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre)
-- Hart -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Mayfield
-- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McLaughlin
-- Meredith -- Morrison -- Silye -- Speaker -- Strahl
-- Wayne -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 28
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Bakopanos -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Calder -- Collins -- Daviault -- Dubé -- Duceppe
-- Easter -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Goodale -- Lastewka
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- McKinnon -- Ménard -- Mercier
-- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont)
-- Ur -- Vanclief
Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at
report stage with further amendments and ordered for a third
reading at the next sitting of the House.
RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with
the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:
-- by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport) -- Report of
the Canadian Coast Guard
(Ship Safety) on exemptions
issued to Masters, Mates and Engineers
for the year 1996, pursuant to the Canada Shipping Act, R.S. 1985,
c. S-9, sbs. 132(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-239A. (Pursuant
to Standing
Order 32(5), permanently
referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)
-- by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport) -- Summaries
of the Corporate
Plans for 1997 to 2001 and of the Capital Budgets
for 1997 of the Canada Ports Corporation, Halifax Port
Corporation, Montréal Port Corporation, Prince Rupert Port
Corporation, Port of Québec Corporation, Saint John Port
Corporation, St. John's Port Corporation and Vancouver
Port Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985,
c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional
Paper No. 8562-352-805A.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred
to the Standing Committee on Transport)
-- by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport) -- Summaries
of the amended Corporate Plan for 1996-2000 and Capital Budget
for 1996 of the Port of Québec Corporation,
pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985,
c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional
Paper No. 8562-352-805B.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred
to the Standing Committee on Transport)
-- by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport) -- Summaries
of the Corporate Plan for 1997 to 2001 and of the Operating and
Capital Budgets for 1997 of Marine Atlantic Inc.,
and summaries of the Corporate Plans of its subsidiaries for 1997-2001,
pursuant to the Financial Administration
Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-352-846A.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the
Standing Committee on Transport)
-- by Mr. Eggleton (Minister for International Trade) -- Report
of the Export Development
Corporation, together with the Auditor General's Report,
for the financial year ended December 31, 1996, pursuant to
the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11,
sbs. 150(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-289A. (Pursuant to Standing
Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee
on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)
-- by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Public Works and Government
Services) -- Summaries
of the Corporate Plan for 1997-2001 and of the Capital
Budget for 1997 of the Royal Canadian Mint,
pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11,
sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-352-810A.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the
Standing Committee on Government Operations)
-- by the Clerk of Petitions -- 3rd Report, pursuant to Standing
Order 131, which was as follows:
The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that
the petition from the Bishop of the Arctic of the Church of
England in Canada, praying for passage of a private Act,
filed by Mr. Peterson on Thursday, March 13, 1997, meets the
requirements of Standing Order 131.
PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified
correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:
-- by Mrs. Chamberlain (Guelph -- Wellington), concerning taxes on books (No.
352-1948).
PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
At 7:41 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the
question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have
been proposed.
After debate, the question was deemed to have been
adopted.
ADJOURNMENT
At 7:55 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until
tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).