HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION
JOURNALS
No. 150
Monday, April 7, 1997
11:00 a.m.
PRAYERS
PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS
At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the
House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members'
Business.
The Order was read for the second reading and reference
to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs of
Bill C-369, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (gaming and
betting).
Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans), seconded
by Mrs. Gagnon (Québec), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a
second time and referred to the Standing Committee on
Justice and Legal Affairs.
Debate arose thereon.
Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped
from the Order Paper.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr.
Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Blondin-Andrew
(Secretary of State (Training and Youth)), -- That Bill C-46,
An Act to amend the Criminal Code (production of records in
sexual offence proceedings), be now read a second time and
referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal
Affairs.
The debate continued.
STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS
Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.
ORAL QUESTIONS
Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded
to Oral Questions.
DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS
Tabling of Documents
The Speaker laid upon the Table, -- Report of the
Parliamentary Librarian for the fiscal year ended
March 31, 1996. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-3A.
Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in
the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Amendments to the Federal
Elections Fees Tariff, pursuant to the Canada Elections Act, R. S. 1985,
c. E-2, sbs. 198(3). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-466A.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the
Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs)
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed
(Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in
the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Orders in
Council approving certain appointments made by the Governor
General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as
follows:
-- P.C. 1997-331, P.C. 1997-358 and P.C. 1997-359. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8540-352-3J. (Pursuant to Standing
Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian
Heritage);
-- P.C. 1997-337, P.C. 1997-338, P.C. 1997-339, P.C. 1997-340,
P.C. 1997-341, P.C. 1997-342, P.C. 1997-343, P.C. 1997-344,
P.C. 1997-345, P.C. 1997-373, P.C. 1997-374 and P.C.
1997-375. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-14K. (Pursuant to
Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on
Citizenship and Immigration);
-- P.C. 1997-332, P.C. 1997-346 and P.C. 1997-361. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8540-352-8L. (Pursuant to Standing
Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign
Affairs and International Trade);
-- P.C. 1997-333, P.C. 1997-334, P.C. 1997-350, P.C. 1997-368
and P.C. 1997-372. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-16J.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing
Committee on Human Resources Development);
-- P.C. 1997-364. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-1F.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing
Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development);
-- P.C. 1997-418, P.C. 1997-427, P.C. 1997-428, P.C. 1997-429,
P.C. 1997-430 and P.C. 1997-431. -- Sessional Paper No.
8540-352-2E. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to
the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food);
-- P.C. 1997-417. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-10K.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing
Committee on Fisheries and Oceans);
-- P.C. 1997-365 and P.C. 1997-366. -- Sessional Paper No.
8540-352-4H. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to
the Standing Committee on Government Operations);
-- P.C. 1997-360. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-18H.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing
Committee on Health);
-- P.C. 1997-349. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-22I.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing
Committee on Industry);
-- P.C. 1997-363, P.C. 1997-432 and P.C. 1997-433. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8540-352-5M. (Pursuant to Standing
Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure
and House Affairs).
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the
Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the
Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the
following petitions:
-- Nos. 352-921, 352-1035, 352-1051 and 352-1181 concerning
small businesses. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-150;
-- Nos. 352-1071, 352-1072 and 352-1394 concerning the
Senate. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-36G;
-- Nos. 352-1518 and 352-1618 concerning immigration. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8545-352-63D;
-- Nos. 352-1560, 352-1566, 352-1650, 352-1653, 352-1654,
352-1655, 352-1658, 352-1675, 352-1679 and 352-1680
concerning taxes on books. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-129H;
-- Nos. 352-1571, 352-1575, 352-1580, 352-1584, 352-1586,
352-1587, 352-1588, 352-1591, 352-1593, 352-1598, 352-1599,
352-1602, 352-1603, 352-1614, 352-1617, 352-1620, 352-1621,
352-1622, 352-1623, 352-1633, 352-1641, 352-1642, 352-1643,
352-1644, 352-1645, 352-1647, 352-1648, 352-1651, 352-1660,
352-1668, 352-1669, 352-1670, 352-1672, 352-1673, 352-1674,
352-1677, 352-1678, 352-1681, 352-1686, 352-1692 and 352-1693
concerning the highway system. -- Sessional Paper No.
8545-352-137F;
-- No. 352-1581 concerning the unemployment insurance
program. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-37H;
-- Nos. 352-1626, 352-1627 and 352-1697 concerning the tax
system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-24U;
-- No. 352-1628 concerning the Canada-United States tax
convention. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-88F;
-- Nos. 352-1632, 352-1637, 352-1646, 352-1649, 352-1652,
352-1661, 352-1662, 352-1667, 352-1671, 352-1676, 352-1682
and 352-1687 concerning the tax on gasoline. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8545-352-44X.
Presenting Reports from Committees
Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans), from the
Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 5th
Report of the Committee (Chapter 14 of November 1996 Report
of the Auditor General of Canada). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-
352-89.
Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was
requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive
response.
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and
Evidence (Issues Nos. 2 and 3, which includes this Report)
was tabled.
Introduction of Private Members' Bills
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion
of Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Middlesex), seconded by Mr. Bryden
(Hamilton -- Wentworth), Bill C-395, An Act to amend the Bank
Act (consumers' protection), was introduced, read the first
time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading
at the next sitting of the House.
Motions
By unanimous consent, Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary
to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons),
seconded by Mr. Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas), moved, -- That the
following change be made to the membership of the
Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs:
Mr. Pomerleau for Mrs. Dalphond-Guiral.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed
to.
Presenting Petitions
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk
of Petitions were presented as follows:
-- by Mr. Peric´ (Cambridge), one concerning euthanasia (No. 352-1972),
two concerning the sexual exploitation of minors (Nos. 352-1973 and
352-1974) and two concerning housing policies (Nos. 352-1975 and 352-1976);
-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), one concerning housing policies (No.
352-1977);
-- by Mrs. Jennings (Mission -- Coquitlam), six concerning taxes on books
(Nos. 352-1978 to 352-1983) and one concerning the tax on gasoline (No.
352-1984);
-- by Ms. Augustine (Etobicoke -- Lakeshore), one concerning taxes on books
(No. 352-1985);
-- by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), one concerning abortion (No.
352-1986), two concerning the theft of a motor vehicle (Nos. 352-1987 and
352-1988), one concerning police dogs (No. 352-1989) and one concerning sex
offenders (No. 352- 1990);
-- by Mr. Riis (Kamloops), two concerning the highway system (Nos. 352-1991
and 352-1992), ten concerning the Canada Post Corporation (Nos. 352-1993 to
352- 2002), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-2003) and two concerning
the nuclear industry (Nos. 352-2004 and 352-2005);
-- by Mr. Kirkby (Prince Albert -- Churchill River), one concerning the
highway system (No. 352-2006) and one concerning NATO (No. 352-2007);
-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning police and firefighters'
death benefits (No. 352-2008), one concerning the income tax system (No.
352- 2009) and one concerning alcoholic beverages (No. 352-2010);
-- by Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), one concerning national unity (No.
352-2011).
BOARD OF INTERNAL ECONOMY
The Speaker informed the House that, pursuant to the Act to amend the
Parliament of Canada Act, Chapter 42 (1st Supp.), Revised Statutes of
Canada, 1985, Mr. Laurin (Joliette) has been appointed a Member of the
Board of Internal Economy to replace Mrs. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre).
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr.
Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Blondin-Andrew
(Secretary of State (Training and Youth)), -- That Bill C-46,
An Act to amend the Criminal Code (production of records in
sexual offence proceedings), be now read a second time and
referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal
Affairs.
The debate continued.
INTERRUPTION
At 4:57 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 5:21 p.m., the sitting resumed.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr.
Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Blondin-Andrew
(Secretary of State (Training and Youth)), -- That Bill C-46,
An Act to amend the Criminal Code (production of records in
sexual offence proceedings), be now read a second time and
referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal
Affairs.
The debate continued.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.
Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the
Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.
The Order was read for the consideration at report
stage of Bill C-27, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (child
prostitution, child sex tourism, criminal harassment and
female genital mutilation), as reported by the Standing
Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs with amendments.
Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1 (5), the Speaker selected
and grouped for debate the following motion:
Group No. 1 -- Motion No. 1.
Group No. 1
Mrs. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-
Rivières), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-27, in Clause 1,
be amended by deleting lines 20 to 29 on page 3 and lines 1
to 7 on page 4.
Debate arose on the motion in Group No. 1.
Pursuant to Order made Friday, March 21, 1997, the House proceeded to the
taking of the deferred division on the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of
Finance), seconded by Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of
Commons and Solicitor General of Canada), -- That this House approves in
general the budgetary policy of the Government. (Ways and Means
Proceedings No. 15)
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to
on the following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian
-- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair
-- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar
-- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Calder -- Campbell
-- Catterall -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Cowling
-- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Dion
-- Discepola -- Dupuy -- Easter -- English -- Fewchuk
-- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano
-- Gagnon -- (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine)
-- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Harvard
-- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Karygiannis
-- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby
-- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi
-- Manley -- Marleau -- Massé -- McGuire -- McKinnon
-- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague
-- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken
-- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell
-- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex)
-- O'Reilly -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric
-- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney
-- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud
-- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais
-- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury)
-- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle
-- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Thalheimer
-- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells -- Whelan
-- Young -- Zed -- 117
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing)
-- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Brien
-- Chatters -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- Cummins
-- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Epp -- Gagnon -- (Québec)
-- Gauthier -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger
-- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hayes -- Hermanson
-- Jacob -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Landry -- Laurin -- Marchand
-- Mercier -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Nunez -- Paré
-- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau
-- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl
-- Taylor -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean)
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne
-- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- Williams -- 48
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Assad -- Asselin
-- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Canuel -- Collins -- Comuzzi
-- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault
-- Debien -- Dubé -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Eggleton
-- Fillion -- Finestone -- Gaffney -- Godin -- Harb
-- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Lalonde
-- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe)
-- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchi
-- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Ménard -- Pomerleau
-- Rock -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Stewart -- (Brant)
-- Tremblay -- (Rosemont) -- Walker
Pursuant to Order made Wednesday, March 12, 1997, the House resumed
consideration of the motion of Mr. Mills (Red Deer), seconded by Mr. Frazer
(Saanich -- Gulf Islands), -- That, in the opinion of this House, all proposed
peacekeeping or peace enforcement commitments involving more than 100
Canadian personnel should be put to a free vote in the House for approval
or rejection. (Private Members' Business M-31)
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the
amendment of Mr. Brien (Témiscamingue), seconded by Mr. Leroux
(Shefford), -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the
word ``all'' and substituting the following:
``projects of military commitments abroad involving Canadian
troops must, as soon as possible, be the subject of a vote
in the House in order to recommend their approval or
rejection to the government.''
The question was put on the amendment and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing)
-- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Brien -- Chatters
-- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- de Savoye
-- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Epp -- Gagnon -- (Québec)
-- Gauthier -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger
-- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hayes -- Hermanson
-- Jacob -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Landry -- Laurin -- Marchand
-- Mercier -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Nunez -- Paré
-- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau
-- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl
-- Taylor -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean)
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne
-- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- Williams -- 47
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian
-- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair
-- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Bodnar
-- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett
-- Bryden -- Byrne -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall
-- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Cowling -- Cullen
-- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Dion -- Discepola
-- Dupuy -- Easter -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Flis
-- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano
-- Gagnon -- (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine)
-- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Harvard
-- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Karygiannis
-- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby
-- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi
-- Manley -- Marleau -- McCormick -- McGuire
-- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague
-- McWhinney -- Milliken -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood)
-- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray
-- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex) -- O'Reilly -- Paradis
-- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew
-- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri
-- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout
-- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Northumberland)
-- Szabo -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells
-- Whelan -- Young -- Zed -- 112
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Assad -- Asselin
-- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Canuel -- Collins -- Comuzzi
-- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault
-- Debien -- Dubé -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Eggleton
-- Fillion -- Finestone -- Gaffney -- Godin -- Harb
-- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Lalonde
-- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe)
-- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchi
-- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Ménard -- Pomerleau
-- Rock -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Stewart -- (Brant)
-- Tremblay -- (Rosemont) -- Walker
The question on the main motion of
Mr. Mills (Red Deer), seconded by Mr. Frazer (Saanich -- Gulf Islands).
The question was put on the main motion and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing)
-- Benoit -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Epp -- Hanger
-- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hayes -- Hermanson
-- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Ramsay
-- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl
-- Taylor -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest)
-- Williams -- 23
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian
-- Augustine -- Bachand -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes
-- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bevilacqua
-- Bhaduria -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brien
-- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden
-- Byrne -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall
-- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette
-- Cowling -- Cullen -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- DeVillers
-- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Duceppe -- Dupuy
-- Easter -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana
-- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine)
-- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Godfrey
-- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harvard
-- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Karygiannis
-- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby
-- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Landry -- Lastewka -- Laurin
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi
-- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- McCormick -- McGuire
-- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague
-- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Milliken
-- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell
-- Murphy -- Murray -- Nunez -- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex)
-- O'Reilly -- Paradis -- Paré -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric
-- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard -- (Drummond)
-- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud
-- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais
-- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Northumberland)
-- Szabo -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean)
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Ur -- Valeri
-- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Wells -- Whelan -- Young
-- Zed -- 135
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Assad -- Asselin
-- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Canuel -- Collins -- Comuzzi
-- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault
-- Debien -- Dubé -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Eggleton
-- Fillion -- Finestone -- Gaffney -- Godin -- Harb
-- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Lalonde
-- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe)
-- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchi
-- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Ménard -- Pomerleau
-- Rock -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Stewart -- (Brant)
-- Tremblay -- (Rosemont) -- Walker
Pursuant to Order made Tuesday, March 18, 1997, the House resumed
consideration of the motion of Miss Grey (Beaver River), seconded by Mrs.
Ablonczy (Calgary North), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the
government should return the word ``Canadian'' among questions of ethnic
origin on the Canadian Census. (Private Members' Business M-277)
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the
amendment of Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mrs. Venne
(Saint-Hubert), -- That the motion be amended by replacing all the words
after the word ``should'' with the following:
``include ``Canadian'', ``Quebecker'', ``English-Canadian'',
``French-Canadian'' and ``Acadian'' among questions of ethnic
origin on the Canadian Census.''
The question was put on the amendment and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Bachand -- Brien -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- de Savoye
-- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Gauthier
-- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Landry -- Laurin -- Marchand
-- Mercier -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard -- (Drummond)
-- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean)
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- 23
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assadourian
-- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing)
-- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger
-- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Bodnar
-- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden
-- Byrne -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chatters
-- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Cowling -- Cullen
-- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dupuy
-- Easter -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Flis
-- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano
-- Gagnon -- (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine)
-- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Hanger
-- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hayes -- Hermanson
-- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Johnston -- Karygiannis
-- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont-Dundas)
-- Kirkby -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Lincoln
-- Loney -- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys)
-- Manley -- Marleau -- McGuire
-- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague
-- McWhinney -- Milliken -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood)
-- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy
-- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex) -- O'Reilly -- Paradis
-- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew
-- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri
-- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Ringma
-- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Schmidt
-- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Solberg -- Steckle
-- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl
-- Szabo -- Taylor -- Vanclief -- Whelan
-- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- Williams -- 116)
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Assad -- Asselin
-- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Canuel -- Collins -- Comuzzi
-- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault
-- Debien -- Dubé -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Eggleton
-- Fillion -- Finestone -- Gaffney -- Godin -- Harb
-- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Lalonde
-- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe)
-- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchi
-- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Ménard -- Pomerleau
-- Rock -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Stewart -- (Brant)
-- Tremblay -- (Rosemont) -- Walker
The House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion of
Miss Grey (Beaver River), seconded by Mrs. Ablonczy (Calgary North).
The question was put on the main motion and it was
negatived on the following division:
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing)
-- Benoit -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Epp -- Hanger
-- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hayes -- Hermanson
-- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Ramsay
-- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- Steckle -- Stinson
-- Strahl -- Taylor -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest)
-- Williams -- 24
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian
-- Augustine -- Bachand -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes
-- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria
-- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton)
-- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Calder -- Campbell
-- Catterall -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- Clancy
-- Cohen -- Collenette -- Cowling -- Cullen -- de Savoye
-- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola
-- Duceppe -- Dupuy -- Easter -- English -- Fewchuk
-- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano
-- Gagnon -- (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine)
-- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Godfrey
-- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hickey
-- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Karygiannis
-- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby
-- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Landry -- Lastewka -- Laurin
-- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso)
-- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney
-- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi
-- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- McCormick -- McGuire
-- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney
-- Mercier -- Milliken -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood)
-- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nunez
-- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex) -- O'Reilly -- Paradis
-- Paré -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew
-- Phinney -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent)
-- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson
-- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard
-- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury)
-- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Stewart -- (Northumberland)
-- Szabo -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean)
-- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Ur -- Valeri
-- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Wells -- Whelan -- Young -- 128
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Assad -- Asselin
-- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre)
-- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Canuel -- Collins -- Comuzzi
-- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault
-- Debien -- Dubé -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Eggleton
-- Fillion -- Finestone -- Gaffney -- Godin -- Harb
-- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Lalonde
-- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe)
-- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchi
-- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Ménard -- Pomerleau
-- Rock -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Stewart -- (Brant)
-- Tremblay -- (Rosemont) -- Walker
RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with
the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:
-- by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport) -- Report
of the Atlantic Pilotage Authority, together with the Auditor
General's Report, for the year 1996, pursuant
to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-ll,
sbs. 150(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-415A.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the
Standing Committee on Transport)
-- by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport) -- Report
of the Laurentian Pilotage Authority,
together with the Auditor General's Report, for the year
1996, pursuant
to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-ll,
sbs. 150(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-416A.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the
Standing Committee on Transport)
-- by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport) -- Report
of the Great Lakes Pilotage Authority, Ltd.,
together with the Auditor General's Report, for
the year 1996, pursuant
to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-ll,
sbs. 150(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-417A.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the
Standing Committee on Transport)
-- by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport) -- Report
of the Pacific Pilotage Authority,
together with the Auditor General's Report, for
the year 1996, pursuant
to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-ll,
sbs. 150(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-418A.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the
Standing Committee on Transport)
-- by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport) -- Summaries
of the Corporate Plan for 1997 to 2001 and of the Operating and Capital
Budgets for 1997 of
the Atlantic Pilotage Authority,
pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985,
c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-352-842A.
(Pursuant to Standing
Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee
on Transport)
-- by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport) -- Summaries
of the Corporate Plan for 1997 to 2001 and of the Operating and Capital
Budgets for 1997 of
the Great Lakes Pilotage Authority, Ltd.,
pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985,
c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-352-843A.
(Pursuant to Standing
Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee
on Transport)
-- by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport) -- Summaries
of the Corporate Plan for 1997 to 2001 and of the Operating
and Capital Budgets for 1997 of
the Laurentian Pilotage Authority,
pursuant to the Financial
Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional
Paper No. 8562-352-844A.
(Pursuant to Standing
Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee
on Transport)
-- by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport) -- Summaries
of the Corporate Plan for 1997 to 2001 and of the Operating and Capital
Budgets for 1997 of
the Pacific Pilotage Authority,
pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985,
c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-352-845A.
(Pursuant to Standing
Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee
on Transport)
-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Report
on the Operations
of the Small Businesses Loans Act for the fiscal year ended March 31,
1996, pursuant to the Small Businesses Loans Act, R.S. 1985, c. S-11,
s. 11. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-240A.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to
the Standing Committee on Industry)
-- by Mr. Marchi (Minister of Environment) -- Response
of the government, pursuant
to Standing Order 109, to the Report of the Standing Committee
on Environment and Sustainable Development, "Biotechnology Regulation in
Canada: A Matter of Public Confidence"
(Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-51), presented to the House
on Friday, November 8, 1996. -- Sessional Paper No. 8512-352-51.
-- by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Reports of
the Bank of Canada for the period ended December 31, 1996,
pursuant to the Access to Information Act, and to the
Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional
Paper No. 8561-352-684B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5),
permanently
referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)
-- by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Summaries of the
Corporate Plan for 1997 to 2001 and the Capital Budget
for 1997 of the Canada Development Investment Corporation,
pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, c. F-11,
sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-352-831A.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the
Standing Committee on Finance)
-- by Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board) -- Report on the
Administration of the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act for
the fiscal year ended March 31, 1996, pursuant to the Members of
Parliament Retiring Allowances Act, R. S. 1985, c. M-5, s. 41. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8560-352-173A.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the
Standing Committee on Government Operations)
-- by Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board) -- Report
on the Administration of the Public Service Superannuation Act for
the fiscal year ended March 31, 1996, pursuant to the Public
Service Superannuation Act, R. S. 1985, c. P-36, s. 46. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8560-352-220A. (Pursuant to Standing
Order 32(5), permanently referred to the
Standing Committee on Government Operations)
-- by Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board) -- Report on
the Administration of the Supplementary
Retirement Benefits Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1996,
pursuant to the Supplementary Retirement Benefits Act, R. S. 1985,
c. S-24, s. 12. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-366A.
(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to
the Standing Committee on Government Operations)
-- by Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice) -- Response
of the government, pursuant
to Standing Order 109, to the 3rd Report of the Standing Joint Committee
on Scrutiny of Regulations (No. 59), (Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-46),
presented to the House on Wednesday, October 30, 1996. -- Sessional
Paper No. 8512-352-46.
PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified
correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:
-- by Mrs. Bakopanos (Saint-Denis), one concerning the highway system (No.
352- 2012) and one concerning national unity (No. 352-2013);
-- by Mrs. Stewart (Northumberland), one concerning abortion (No. 352-2014).
ADJOURNMENT
At 7:31 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until
tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).