36th Parliament, 1st Session
EDITED HANSARD • NUMBER 234
CONTENTS
Monday, May 31, 1999
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. John Godfrey |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | AN ACT TO INCORPORATE THE ALLIANCE OF MANUFACTURERS &
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Bill S-18. Second reading
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. John Godfrey |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | CANADIAN ARMED FORCES
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Robert Bertrand |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Gurmant Grewal |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Mac Harb |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Leon E. Benoit |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Bev Desjarlais |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Rick Borotsik |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Hec Clouthier |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | GOVERNMENT ORDERS
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | CANADIAN ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ACT, 1999
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Bill C-32—Time allocation motion
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Don Boudria |
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(Division 455)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion agreed to
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Report Stage
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Bill C-32. Report stage
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Bill Gilmour |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Divisions deemed demanded and deferred
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Christine Stewart |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 17, 20, 21, 27 to 29, 34, 35, 40, 44, 45, 54,
55, 72, 75 to 79, 82, 92, 98 to 100, 102 to 104, 114, 124, 126,
127, 131, 134, 136, 140 to 145, 152, 157, 158, 162 to 166, 168,
170, 175, 177 to 180, 182, 184, 188, 190, 196, 199, 217 to 224,
226 to 229, 232 and 234 to 236.
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Paddy Torsney |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Jocelyne Girard-Bujold |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Clifford Lincoln |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Divisions deemed demanded and deferred
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Rick Laliberte |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 36 and 37
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Bill Gilmour |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 38
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Rick Laliberte |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 41, 70 and 73
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Jocelyne Girard-Bujold |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Charles Caccia |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. John Herron |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Rick Laliberte |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Bill Gilmour |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Réginald Bélair |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | CROHN'S AND COLITIS FOUNDATION OF CANADA
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Lynn Myers |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | PROSTATE CANCER
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Ted White |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | CANADIAN VOLUNTEER ADVISERS TO BUSINESS
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Bryon Wilfert |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | THE ENVIRONMENT
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Paddy Torsney |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | CANADA POST
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Guy St-Julien |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | IMPAIRED DRIVING
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Richard M. Harris |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | WORLD NO TOBACCO DAY
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mrs. Carolyn Bennett |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | NATURAL GAS RESOURCES
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Paul Crête |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | TAXATION
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Monte Solberg |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | KUWAIT
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Mac Harb |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | HUMAN RIGHTS
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Libby Davies |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | WORLD NO TOBACCO DAY
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mrs. Pauline Picard |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | ANNAPOLIS COUNTY SENIORS SAFETY PROGRAM
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Mark Muise |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | NATIONAL DRUG STRATEGY
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Randy White |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | WATER QUALITY
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Gordon Earle |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | GOVERNMENT OF CANADA
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Rick Borotsik |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Nick Discepola |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | SUMMER EMPLOYMENT
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Gurbax Singh Malhi |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | STATISTICS CANADA
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Pierre de Savoye |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | KOSOVO
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Preston Manning |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Right Hon. Jean Chrétien |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Preston Manning |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Right Hon. Jean Chrétien |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Preston Manning |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Right Hon. Jean Chrétien |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | GOVERNMENT GRANTS
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Chuck Strahl |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Bonnie Brown |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Chuck Strahl |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Right Hon. Jean Chrétien |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | PUBLISHING INDUSTRY
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Michel Gauthier |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Sheila Copps |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Michel Gauthier |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Sheila Copps |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mrs. Francine Lalonde |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Sheila Copps |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mrs. Francine Lalonde |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Sheila Copps |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | THE ENVIRONMENT
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Bill Blaikie |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Christine Stewart |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Bill Blaikie |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Christine Stewart |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. John Herron |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Christine Stewart |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. John Herron |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Right Hon. Jean Chrétien |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | TRANSITIONAL JOBS FUND
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mrs. Diane Ablonczy |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Right Hon. Jean Chrétien |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mrs. Diane Ablonczy |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Right Hon. Jean Chrétien |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | PUBLISHING INDUSTRY
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Benoît Sauvageau |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Sergio Marchi |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Benoît Sauvageau |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Sergio Marchi |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | GOVERNMENT GRANTS
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Monte Solberg |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Right Hon. Jean Chrétien |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Monte Solberg |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Right Hon. Jean Chrétien |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Sheila Copps |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Right Hon. Jean Chrétien |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | CORRECTIONAL SERVICE CANADA
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Randy White |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Lawrence MacAulay |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Randy White |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Lawrence MacAulay |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | TAINTED BLOOD
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Yvan Loubier |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Right Hon. Jean Chrétien |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | THE ENVIRONMENT
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. John Harvard |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Christine Stewart |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | PUBLISHING INDUSTRY
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Inky Mark |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Sheila Copps |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Inky Mark |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Sheila Copps |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | THE ENVIRONMENT
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Louise Hardy |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Christine Stewart |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Rick Laliberte |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Christine Stewart |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | GUN CONTROL
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Peter MacKay |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Anne McLellan |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Peter MacKay |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Anne McLellan |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | SHIPBUILDING INDUSTRY
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Ian Murray |
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Walt Lastewka |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | AGRICULTURE
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![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Roy Bailey |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Lyle Vanclief |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | NATIONAL DEFENCE
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Claude Bachand |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Arthur C. Eggleton |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | NATURAL RESOURCES
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Yvon Godin |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Ralph E. Goodale |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | AGRICULTURE
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Rick Borotsik |
1455
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Lyle Vanclief |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | TRADE AND TOURISM
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Carmen Provenzano |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Harbance Singh Dhaliwal |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | AGRICULTURE
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Roy Bailey |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Lyle Vanclief |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | MONEY LAUNDERING
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Richard Marceau |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Don Boudria |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | PAY EQUITY
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Bev Desjarlais |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Marcel Massé |
1500
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | WINDSOR—ST. CLAIR
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO PETITIONS
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Peter Adams |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | COMMITTEES OF THE HOUSE
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Industry
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Susan Whelan |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Transport
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Raymond Bonin |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | PROCEEDS OF CRIME (MONEY LAUNDERING) ACT
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Bill C-81. Introduction and first reading
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Jim Peterson |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | PETITIONS
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Firearms
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Jim Gouk |
1505
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Young Offenders Act
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Jim Gouk |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Housing in Nunavik
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Guy St-Julien |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Royal Canadian Mounted POlice
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Diane St-Jacques |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hepatitis
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Peter Stoffer |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Government Grants
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Leon E. Benoit |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Government Regulation
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Paul Steckle |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Firearms
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Paul Steckle |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Taxation
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Ken Epp |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Aboriginal Affairs
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Bev Desjarlais |
1510
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Peter Adams |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Walt Lastewka |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Stan Dromisky |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | GOVERNMENT ORDERS
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | CANADIAN ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ACT, 1999
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Bill C-32. Report stage
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Benoît Sauvageau |
1515
1520
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Paddy Torsney |
1525
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Gordon Earle |
1530
1535
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Ian Murray |
1540
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Bernard Bigras |
1545
1550
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Peter Stoffer |
1555
1600
1605
1610
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Bev Desjarlais |
1615
1620
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Claude Bachand |
1625
1630
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mrs. Michelle Dockrill |
1635
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Jean-Guy Chrétien |
1640
1645
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Louise Hardy |
1650
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Pierre Brien |
1655
1700
1705
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mrs. Francine Lalonde |
1710
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Yves Rocheleau |
1715
1720
1725
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Pierre de Savoye |
1730
1735
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mrs. Pauline Picard |
1740
1745
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Divisions on motions deemed demanded and deferred
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 53
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Bill Gilmour |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 151
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Rick Laliberte |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 153
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Bill Gilmour |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 154 and 185
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Christine Stewart |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 186
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. John Herron |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 187 and 191
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Bill Gilmour |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 192
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. John Herron |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 193
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Christine Stewart |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 194
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Bill Gilmour |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 198
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Jocelyne Girard-Bujold |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 200
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. John Herron |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 201 and 202
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Bill Gilmour |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Charles Caccia |
1750
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Jocelyne Girard-Bujold |
1755
1800
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Ms. Paddy Torsney |
1805
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Clifford Lincoln |
1810
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Charles Caccia |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Rick Laliberte |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | The Deputy Speaker |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. Rick Laliberte |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mr. John Herron |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 214
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Hon. Christine Stewart |
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 230, 231 and 233
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Divisions deemed demanded and deferred
|
1835
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | The Deputy Speaker |
1845
(Division 456)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 1 negatived
|
(Division 458)
(Division 467)
(Division 471)
(Division 481)
(Division 482)
(Division 483)
(Division 500)
(Division 502)
(Division 506)
(Division 507)
(Division 515)
(Division 516)
(Division 519)
(Division 521)
(Division 526)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 13, 71, 87, 130, 132, 206, 6, 137, 10, 18, 38,
53, 153, 191 and 201
|
1850
(Division 457)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 2 agreed to
|
(Division 459)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 14 agreed to.
|
1855
(Division 501)
(Division 505)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 7 and 8 agreed to
|
(Division 460)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 26 negatived
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral |
(Division 461)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 61 negatived.
|
(Division 509)
(Division 510)
(Division 511)
(Division 513)
(Division 514)
(Division 518)
1900
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 22, 23, 24, 36, 37 and 151 negatived
|
(Division 462)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 62 negatived
|
(Division 477)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 115 negatived
|
(Division 463)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 64 agreed to
|
1905
(Division 464)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 65 negatived
|
(Division 465)
(Division 468)
(Division 469)
(Division 473)
(Division 474)
(Division 478)
(Division 522)
(Division 527)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 66, 84, 85, 89, 90, 117, 192 and 202 negatived
|
(Division 466)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 67 agreed to
|
(Division 470)
(Division 475)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 86 and 91 agreed to
|
1910
(Division 472)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 88 agreed to
|
(Division 476)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 101 negatived
|
1915
(Division 525)
(Division 528)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 200 and 214 negatived
|
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral |
(Division 479)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 122 agreed to
|
(Division 503)
(Division 504)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 138 and 148 agreed to
|
1920
(Division 480)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 128 agreed to
|
1925
(Division 484)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 4 negatived
|
(Division 485)
(Division 486)
(Division 487)
(Division 489)
(Division 490)
(Division 492)
(Division 493)
(Division 499)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 5, 11, 12, 25, 30, 33, 39 and 216 negatived
|
(Division 488)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 15 negatived
|
(Division 524)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 198 negatived
|
1930
(Division 491)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 31 agreed to
|
(Division 494)
(Division 495)
(Division 512)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motions Nos. 48, 56 and 17 agreed to.
|
1935
(Division 496)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 160 negatived
|
(Division 497)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 209 agreed to
|
(Division 498)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 215 agreed to
|
1940
(Division 508)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 19 negatived
|
(Division 517)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 185 agreed to
|
(Division 523)
![V](/web/20061116184000im_/http://www2.parl.gc.ca/common/images/b_stone1.gif) | Motion No. 193 agreed to
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(Division 520)
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(Official Version)
EDITED HANSARD • NUMBER 234
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HOUSE OF COMMONS
Monday, May 31, 1999
The House met at 11 a.m.
Prayers
PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS
1100
[English]
Mr. John Godfrey (Don Valley West, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I rise
on a point of order. I think you will find there is unanimous
consent in the House for the following motion.
That notwithstanding any standing order and the usual practices
of the House, Bill S-18, an act respecting the Alliance of
Manufacturers & Exporters Canada, be now called for second
reading; and that the House do proceed to dispose of the bill at
all stages without debate, including committee of the whole.
The Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed in
such a fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
(Motion agreed to)
* * *
AN ACT TO INCORPORATE THE ALLIANCE OF MANUFACTURERS &
EXPORTERS CANADA
Mr. John Godfrey (Don Valley West, Lib.) moved that Bill
S-18, an act respecting the Alliance of Manufacturers & Exporters
Canada, be read the second time and, by unanimous consent,
referred to committee of the whole.
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[Translation]
(Motion adopted, bill read the second time, considered in
committee of the whole and reported to the House without
amendment, concurred in at report stage, read the third time and
passed)
* * *
CANADIAN ARMED FORCES
The House resumed from April 21 consideration of the motion.
Mr. Robert Bertrand (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of
National Defence, Lib.): Madam Speaker, I am pleased to take
advantage of the opportunity provided by this motion to speak of
the role of Parliament in the procurement of goods and services
for the Canadian forces.
I must begin by stating clearly that the government is opposed
to the motion calling for a standing committee of the House of
Commons to hold public hearings on every proposed procurement of
goods or services by the Canadian armed forces valued at more
than $100 million. In order for hon. members to clearly
understand why, I would like to describe the present procurement
process.
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This process, which has been in place for many years in the
Department of National Defence and in fact in all departments,
is an important instrument of public scrutiny. I would like to
speak as well of the potential impact of the proposed change on
the expeditious delivery of the necessary equipment to the armed
forces.
The procurement of equipment, goods and services is of vital
importance to the success of the Canadian forces. The quantity
and type of equipment purchased has a direct influence on the
forces' capacity to fulfil their role, which in turn influences
where and how they can be deployed by the government.
The 1994 white paper on defence defined these roles as
protecting Canada, co-operating with the United States in the
defence of North America, and contributing to peace and
international security.
These are important jobs and I know I speak for everyone here
today when I say that the Canadian armed forces have delivered
an exceptional calibre of service in everything from their
contribution during last year's ice storm to the present
operations in Yugoslavia.
However, in order to maintain this level of excellence, the
Canadian armed forces must be able to count on the appropriate
equipment at a fair price and when they need it. The
procurement process of the Department of National Defence
complies with Treasury Board requirements. When possible and
feasible, all large dollar contracts are put out to tender in an
open and transparent manner.
All capital projects are included in the annual budget tabled in
the House and all major government projects, that is those over
$100 million, containing an element of risk, are examined by the
Treasury Board and by cabinet. Because major government
projects also affect several departments, they must meet strict
conditions and national requirements.
Not surprisingly, there is a comprehensive procurement process
for major government projects, starting with the identification
of needs and continuing through to delivery of the product. It
is also transparent and fair. I will describe this process
briefly.
The Canadian forces may need a particular good or service for
several reasons. Repairing some of its equipment might not be
cost-effective. Operational changes might make different
equipment necessary.
Technological advances may necessitate the updating of equipment
or, again, a strategic analysis may lead to the identification
of new requirements.
When a need is identified, a preliminary list of potential
solutions is drawn up, and costs are estimated. Next, options
are analysed, feasibility studies done, scenarios tried out and,
finally, risks are assessed. The cost evaluations are then
refined, and various aspects of the study are reviewed by the
Treasury Board secretariat and by a senior advisory committee in
charge of contracts comprising the heads of various departments.
This committee must make sure that the proposal receives the
attention of senior managers, is covered by broad government
policy and is in keeping with the government's objectives.
The proposal and procurement strategy are then reviewed by
cabinet, and, if it is deemed acceptable, receives approval in
principle. At this point, Treasury Board looks at the proposal
with a view to a preliminary approval, and this step is followed
by the procurement process. Once the strategy has been approved,
a call for tenders is put out.
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The Minister of National Defence again presents the proposal to
cabinet, taking different factors in consideration this time,
including the reconfirmation of the need, the underlying
justification, the implementation plan, the global cost and
other aspects.
If the procurement strategy has already led to a call for
tenders, cabinet would also approve the choice of a bidder at
this stage. Once a decision has been made, the proposal moves to
final approval by Treasury Board.
The contract is awarded by another department—Public Works and
Government Services—which ensures an independent, fair and
transparent process. I must add here this practice is unusual
among Canada's allies.
It should be noted that the government's major procurement
proposals often contribute to other objectives, including
regional industrial and economic spinoffs, business
opportunities for small business and economic development for
native peoples.
The involvement of many other federal agencies and departments
ensures that the major government's projects are carried out
according to the policies and goals of the government and of the
people of Canada.
This process has a significant impact on the Canadian forces,
from financial management to defence planning operations. We
should not consider any change that could inhibit the ability of
the Department of National Defence to provide our Canadian
forces with the tools they need to fulfil their missions.
There are at least three reasons for which the House should not
support this proposal. First, a number of departments, including
DND, have already taken measures to improve the procurement
process so that Canada can get the best equipment at the best
price.
The Department of National Defence has shown innovative spirit
to ensure that our country has a multipurpose combat-capable
force, at a fair price.
For example, the decision makers have looked at the possibility
of acquiring products sold on the market, since military
equipment that is made to order is very costly and takes a very
long time to get.
Moreover, two recent procurements, one involving 100 utility
tactical transport helicopters and the other one 15 Cormorant
search and rescue helicopters, are evidence that the Canadian
forces can be provided with excellent material at a very good
cost and take delivery much more quickly.
There are other innovative procurement processes that involve
new financial arrangements.
The acquisition last year of Upholder class submarines from
Great Britain is an excellent example of innovative procurement.
What maximizes the value of this transaction for Canadian
taxpayers is an 8-year interest free loan-purchase. In addition to
the Canadian forces getting the submarines for one quarter of
the price of new ones, this project will generate economic
spinoffs of some $350 million for Canadian businesses.
I could go on, because I have other very interesting things to
say, but I see that my time is up and I must give the floor to
someone else.
[English]
Mr. Gurmant Grewal (Surrey Central, Ref.): Madam Speaker,
I rise on behalf of the people of Surrey Central to speak to this
private member's motion.
Motion No. 73 calls on the House to establish a House of Commons
committee to hold public hearings on every proposed procurement
of goods and services by the Canadian forces valued at more than
$100 million.
With respect, I would hesitate to support the motion because I
believe it is not a good idea. The motion suggests adding
another layer of political involvement in defence procurement. It
would also add another layer of bureaucracy causing the process
to become even more extended. In my view and that of many
Canadians, the defence procurement process could use a lot less
political involvement.
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The auditor general has also said that there is too much
bureaucracy within our procurement process. In a presentation on
procurement to the defence committee, it was said that the
problems of our defence procurement process lies with the
military, bureaucratic and political interface.
The EH-101 helicopter is a prime example of political
interference. Both the Liberals and Tories messed up the
military requirements with their interference and left the coast
guard operations in jeopardy.
In the hard face of all these contracts that have either been
awarded, cancelled or altered, it is the direct political
interference that is responsible for all this mess. The official
opposition does not support adding another layer of political
involvement.
The Reform Party of Canada has always pursued a policy of
reducing bureaucracy and red tape. We want to get rid of big
government and reduce the role that government's play in our
daily lives. If we were to follow what the Bloc is recommending,
all of a sudden there would be a myriad of politicians wanting to
jump into the fray making sure that a chunk of the $100 million
contracts would end up in their ridings.
The defence department needs to be able to purchase the
equipment it needs to do its job. There is always a political
element to every purchase but that is where experts should come
in to advise the politicians. It needs politicians to leave it
alone and not to tell it what to buy and from where to buy it.
There has always been the question of sole sourcing where there
is no bidding process. It would be nice to have the assurance
that there would be a greater number of open bid contracts and
not the sole sourcing we have seen in many cases in Canada.
There is always a question of political interference in sole
sourcing contracts being awarded. I can see coming into the mix,
if we have these public hearings, politicians demanding that they
be involved and that industries in their ridings be involved.
I will not support contracting of purchasing being brought to
the committee table. I am not able to say that I have full
confidence in the existing structure and functioning of the
committees of the House of Commons. The way committees work in
the House needs functional improvement. Committees are not
managing their own affairs efficiently. Even having a quorum has
been a problem many times. I can say this because I usually
arrive on time and watch most other members come in late, or
sometimes having been called in to the committee.
We have an ongoing problem of leaked reports from the
committees. I do not see any political will by the government to
solve the problem. Even the “leaked committee report” was also
leaked.
All parties unanimously decided some time ago to televise
committee proceedings from gavel to gavel but we still do not
have that in the committees. Is the government chickening out? I
really have to wonder.
The Private Members' Business subcommittee has serious problems.
I maintain, from what I have seen, that it cannot prove itself to
be fair, respectful and empowering of the backbencher members of
parliament. It is an exercise in futility. Heckling in
committees and the House is excessive and absolutely unnecessary.
Partnership prevails in all the Liberal dominated committees.
There has been a problem with the fairness of the chairmen. The
Liberal chairs of various committees often unduly defend the
Liberal members and their friendly witnesses, in particular their
ministers. The chairs are often unfair in timing and in allowing
opposition members to ask questions, or even in entertaining
motions from opposition members. Most members look through the
lens of political stripes and rarely through the lens of issues.
For instance, recently in the immigration committee the Liberal
members who dominate the committee refused to allow the committee
to study in its future business the abuse of the immigration and
refugee system by drug dealers, criminals or terrorists. How can
we do that if we are looking through the lens of issues?
Many times the committee set-up is inefficient.
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The scrutiny of regulations committee, of which I am a co-chair,
has had unresolved regulations in the pipeline for as long as 25
years. We do not even have a clear disallowance procedure in
place in that committee. Ministers and agencies do not respond
in a timely fashion. With all of this inefficiency and
mismanagement, how can anyone expect committees to do a good job
in administering the over $100 million defence contracts?
Politicians should not make decisions for experts, specialists
or administrators. We all know by now how the Prime Minister's
aid was involved in securing the infamous grant to the Prime
Minister's associate, friend, constituent or whatever we call it
in the Shawinigate. How was the RCMP contract to build a road
to the Prime Minister's residence awarded without any bidding?
How has Revenue Canada staff been shifted in the Shawinigan
shenanigans?
Who does not remember the contract awarded to Bombardier for
NATO flight training in western Canada? This was an untendered
contract awarded by the Liberal government to the tune of $2.85
billion. Who on the government side can justify the 90% to 92%
of CIDA contracts being awarded to two central Canadian provinces
for years and years? How can we expect fairness in committee in
awarding defence contracts by these politicians?
I will not be supporting the motion. It borders on sabotaging
our defence procurement process. It would add another level of
bureaucracy, placing our troops much further from what they need
to get the job done. The motion would actually increase the
opportunity for political interference in the procurement
process.
Mr. Mac Harb (Ottawa Centre, Lib.): Madam Speaker, I was
quite interested in my colleague's comments concerning
partisanship in committees and in the House. However, I was
quite disappointed that he spent seven out of ten minutes on
partisan rhetoric. He was taking potshots with comments that had
absolutely no foundation whatsoever. There is no truth to them
whatsoever.
He then moved on to personally attack members of the House of
Commons, some of whom are the finest leaders the country has had
over its history. I do not want to spend my 10 minutes
responding because it would take me a lot longer to respond from
this end if I am to put the points on the line.
I want to go back to the motion before the House. It states:
That, in the opinion of this House, the government should have a
standing committee of the House of Commons hold public hearings
on every proposed procurement of goods or services by the
Canadian Armed Forces valued at more than $100 million, in order
to ensure that the procurement process is transparent and fair to
all concerned.
I just want to refer members to a comment made to the standing
committee on defence by a witness, Joseph Haddock, director for
International Business (Canada), Sikorsky Canada Inc., on the
issue of contracting out. He said that he was a veteran for over
29 years in the U.S. navy, that he was quite experienced and that
he had been involved firsthand in the procurement aspect of the
defence industry in the United States. He moved on to make a
comment specifically on the whole issue of the public process of
holding hearings. He said:
First, on a positive note, Canada's process appears to me to be
simpler than the U.S. system with regard to the budgeting
process. In the U.S. the multitude of congressional reviews and
political manipulation of planned budgets wreak havoc on planning
and execution, both from the government's perspective as well as
industry's.
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This gentleman's comments before the Standing Committee on
National Defence and Veterans Affairs speak volumes. It is a
golden statement which sums up what I would probably say in
response to the motion proposed by my colleagues from the Reform
Party.
I sit on the public accounts committee. I assure the House that
when the auditor general senses there is even the slightest bit
of a problem or perceived problem, and not necessarily a
wrongdoing, he is out there like a hawk with his crew digging
through thousands of papers. He goes through every single
contract in any government department, crown corporation or
agency that is involved. He never gives up until he gets to the
bottom of a story. We already have an ombudsman who is always on
the lookout to protect the interests of the public whenever he
senses there is a potential problem.
Some of the finest public servants on this planet work for the
Government of Canada, in the Department of Public Works and
Government Services, the Department of National Defence and the
Treasury Board. They go through the fine print of contracts that
are for $100 million or more but even those that are less, to
ensure they meet the objectives set out by the Government of
Canada to ensure transparency and that the public is getting its
money's worth and a return on its investment.
Certainly setting up another parliamentary committee to cross
the country every time we have a project of $100 million is going
to invite partisanship. It is going to invite regionalism and
conflict. It will open the door for possible political pressure
and political lobbying of all sorts. It will not serve the public
interest.
Why do we want to create another bureaucracy when we already
have a multitude of agencies that do exactly the kind of thing my
colleague wants to do? There is absolutely nothing preventing
any member of the House or any member of a committee of the House
from inspecting or bringing in the head of an agency, a deputy
minister or a minister to appear before a committee to answer
questions with regard to a contract.
I would say this government, this society and this country enjoy
the finest when it comes to the public tendering process and to
dealing with the public purse. As a parliamentarian I am proud
of what the Department of National Defence and the Department of
Public Works and Government Services are doing in the field in
conjunction with Treasury Board. I have every faith they are
doing a fine job, far away from political interference, public
pressure and regional interests that might come into play from
time to time with major contracts.
Certainly I am not going to hide the fact that if a company in
my constituency was bidding on a $100 million contract and a
parliamentary committee was holding hearings across the country
on the project, you bet I would make submissions to the committee
saying that the company was doing a great job and it would do a
fine job if it got the contract. That is the nature of the
beast.
As politicians we have a responsibility to protect the interests
of those in our constituencies who create jobs. I am right to do
that. But if every one of my colleagues is going to do the same
thing I am doing, we are going to create confusion if not chaos
in the political process. As well we are going to put that
specific committee in an extremely awkward position. At the end
of the day, when somebody has to make a decision and the yeas and
the nays are given, somebody is going to be happy and somebody
else is going to be unhappy, just like everything else in life.
To that extent, if it is not broken, why fix it? The system
works. It works effectively and efficiently. It is transparent.
It is one of the finest systems in the world. Let us protect the
integrity of the system. Let us leave the political interference
out of it.
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I will be voting against this motion when it comes before the
House.
Mr. Leon E. Benoit (Lakeland, Ref.): Madam Speaker, I
appreciate being given this time. I had not planned to speak on
this motion but after listening to the last member speak, I
thought I should make some comments.
I was surprised by the way the member for Ottawa Centre spoke
against the motion. I have had members from my party speak
against it from the point of view that they do not want political
interference in the process of making decisions on contracts.
The motion reads:
That, in the opinion of this House, the government should have a
standing committee of the House of Commons hold public hearings
on every proposed procurement of goods or services by the
Canadian Armed Forces valued at more than $100 million, in order
to ensure that the procurement process is transparent and fair to
all concerned.
It does not say that the standing committee would make decisions
on whether the contract would go ahead; it says that it would
make the process more transparent. From that point of view, I
will speak in favour of the motion. I am going to speak in
favour of it for two reasons.
First, looking at the committee structure and the value of House
of Commons committees, there is a need for a pretty dramatic
change. Last year the Standing Committee on National Defence and
Veterans Affairs, and I was a member of that committee, did a
study on the quality of life in the Canadian forces. We listened
to members of the forces, members in the community and people who
were interested in the Canadian armed forces. I do not feel that
the report that was presented at the end of this extensive
process represented what was heard.
Second, even though that report was presented and even though it
was not anywhere near complete and in a lot of areas it did not
reflect what we had heard, it was pretty much ignored. I do not
expect that in the end there will be much done about that at all.
Having the function of scrutinizing the procurement process in
the forces of contracts over $100 million would be a very
important role for that committee. It would increase the value
of the committee. The committees are not very useful right now.
Often a lot of good work is done but very little happens as a
result. In this case the committee could serve a very important
role.
I am sure opposition members and even some government members
would ask important questions about the procurement procedure in
particular contracts. Those questions may well spark a more
intensive study by the auditor general. In some cases where the
information is damning enough, it may cause the defence
department to back off or reissue certain contracts.
An important function of the committees should be to carefully
scrutinize the spending of taxpayers' dollars. That is not
happening enough right now. Even when it does happen through the
estimates and bringing ministers before the committee and so on,
often the quality of the scrutiny is not good enough and it is
pretty much ignored anyway. So what it is the purpose?
In this case that function would be worthwhile. It would be
valuable because issues surrounding the contracts would be
brought to the attention of the government, the department, the
auditor general and most important, the public.
I congratulate the member brought forward Motion No. 73. It is
certainly not enough but I will support the motion as far as it
goes. It makes a lot of sense.
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I am concerned that the member for Ottawa Centre spoke out
against this further scrutiny. It cannot be provided properly by
any other body, or at least it has not been. He spoke out
against it as something that would be of little value. Maybe the
member is not looking at how ineffective House of Commons
committees have become, particularly in this parliament. In the
last parliament the committees functioned better. They were
given a larger role than they had before, but that has been taken
away.
As the Reform critic for immigration and as a member of the
immigration committee, I certainly know the value of that
committee has been reduced very dramatically. I question whether
it is worth going to the meetings. That is how ineffective that
committee has become.
Other members from all parties, including the government party,
have indicated that a lot of committees are like that now. They
have lost their value, which is unfortunate. House of Commons
committees could truly be the place where the useful background
and detailed work could be done. It could help to improve
legislation. The legislation would be debated in the House of
Commons. It would be better quality legislation.
Clearly it is a deliberate move on the part of the government to
make sure the committees do not work like that. Their value has
been reduced dramatically. This is one way we could improve the
quality of whatever committee would perform that function.
Probably it would be the defence committee.
Personally, I would like to see this motion pass. I encourage
all members to look at it. It does not say that there would be
political interference in the decision. The role of the committee
would be to bring important considerations that otherwise might
be missed to the forefront and to the attention of the public.
I appreciate having had the time to make this presentation. I
encourage other members to allow this change to take place. It
would increase the value of that committee. It would allow the
committee to do something important, which would be very hard for
government and for the defence department to ignore. This kind
of motion is to be applauded.
Ms. Bev Desjarlais (Churchill, NDP): Madam Speaker, I too
want to offer my support for this motion. I thank the hon.
member for bringing it forward.
If anybody doubts it, we just have to look at the ratings of
politicians and lawyers on the scale of who people trust to see
that over the years people have lost faith in politicians. They
have lost faith in the process because of underhanded dealings,
because of what is perceived as misuse of taxpayers' dollars. The
government has not been at the forefront in ensuring that there
was a good process that people could trust as being done fairly.
This motion tries to address the lack of respectability that
government and politicians have. It wants to ensure that
taxpayers' dollars are spent fairly and that the public is able
to see that these dollars are being spent fairly.
A key issue in this whole debate is that we are not talking
about a small amount of dollars; we are talking about contracts
of $100 million. It is hard to believe the government would be
going against having some kind of public scrutiny for the
expenditure of $100 million on a contract. It is unconscionable
to even think that government members could be arguing that it is
not right.
I listened to the hon. member from the Liberal Party speak. He
seemed to think that we will take this out to the public and it
will become a real partisanship issue. The problem is that there
has been too much partisanship and that is why it needs to go to
the public. If that is not there, then take it to the public and
show the public that it is not there. Do not be afraid to put it
on the plate for them. The problem is it is not there and that is
why these kinds of motions come forth.
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It is extremely important that this motion receive support from
all parties in the House to show Canadians that we are willing to
stand for a system that is working. If it is not working, then
let the public know. If it is working, let them know. We must
let the public gain back some trust in the processes.
I believe we have really good public servants. The problem is,
it is not just the public servants who are involved in issuing
$100 million contracts. We all know there are other areas that
come into question. There are questions of partisanship and
patronage. It is extremely important that we let Canadians know
that it is not there. If we really believe it is not there, then
let us show Canadians.
My hon. colleague for Halifax West spoke on this issue
previously and commented on the auditor general's scathing
report. Yes, the auditor general is there, but he prepares the
report and he expects this House to come forth with policies and
legislation that will support him in ensuring that where there is
a problem we will be able to address it. With the way things are
now, that is impossible.
I will not belabour the issue, but I want to ask all parties to
support the motion. If we are to gain some degree of
respectability within our government system it is time we put
forth these types of motions so the public can see there is
reason to trust in our democratic system.
Mr. Rick Borotsik (Brandon—Souris, PC): Madam Speaker, I
am pleased to rise on behalf of my colleague for
Compton—Stanstead to speak to Motion No. 73 put forward by the
Bloc member. I will say at the outset that the Progressive
Conservatives, at least the member for Compton—Stanstead and
myself, will be supporting this private member's legislation when
it is voted on sometime in the near future.
I have heard Liberal members give excuses as to why it is not
necessary to have a special committee struck to deal with
procurement in national defence. They used excuses such as
transparency and openness being in place now. Liberal members
also state that procedures are in place which allow Canadians to
believe that they are well served and well protected by the
process currently in place. I would suggest that is not the
case.
This motion came forward because the hon. member believes that
the committee system we currently have does not seem to be
working in this particular area. I believe that the agriculture
committee, on which I sit, works fairly well, is open and
transparent. I am very pleased to say that the majority of the
government members who sit on that committee are open to honest
discussion and honest debate. Some of those members are here
today and that was not meant to try to endear them to my heart.
There are certain committees which work, but that does not seem
to be happening in the defence committee. Unfortunately there
does not seem to be openness when dealing with estimates. There
does not seem to be openness when the minister appears before the
committee. When members of that committee do not have the
opportunity to get the true facts, then obviously it means there
is a necessity to put other options forward. This is, in our
estimation, a reasonable option under the circumstances.
Let me give the House an example of the efficiency that was
spoken of by members of the government. Let me tell members
about the cost effectiveness of this government when dealing with
military procurement. Let me deal with a very simple example,
that of the procurement of the EH-101 helicopter.
The government would love to forget about the EH-101, but that
procurement took place rationally, logically and nominally. An
agreement was reached to buy helicopters which were required by
the Canadian military. However, the Liberal government, in its
own fashion and in its own way of wasting Canadian taxpayer
dollars, decided at the stroke of a pen that it would, through
political expediency, not accept the contract that was
negotiated, developed and in place at a penalty cost in excess of
$1 billion to the Canadian public. In excess of $1 billion of
Canadian public dollars was expended needlessly by the government
because of political expediency.
That in itself speaks to the need for some type of committee
watchdog that will put some openness and transparency back into
the system.
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A government member recently said “But we do have a watchdog.
We do have that backstop. We have the auditor general who comes
in and if there should be any improprieties in any part of the
process, then that watchdog will look at all of the papers and
documents. He will go through all of the process and then he
will come forward and say that this was wrong”. He is right,
that is what the auditor general does.
The auditor general provides a very valuable service. The
problem is that no one listens to him on the government side.
They do not listen to the auditor general. They turn a deaf ear
and they simply continue with the same type of political
expediency that is now in place.
The motion proposes the idea of a committee being struck to deal
with expenditures in the military of over $100 million. That is
a lot of money. The motion itself reflected that when it spoke
to the number of $100 million. Anything below that certainly can
and will be dealt with by the department of defence and the
treasury department.
The government says that this cannot happen because there is an
operational requirement for the Department of National Defence
and if we had a committee it would stop the operational
necessities of the department. That is not true. One hundred
million dollars allows the normal operations of the Department of
National Defence to continue. However, there should be an
opportunity for anything above $100 million to be vetted by
Canadians.
The government talks about Canadians having a return on
investment. Canadians need a return on their investment right
now. This is one area in which this could begin. If the
committee system worked it would not be necessary. If
investigation by the auditor general worked it would not be
necessary. Unfortunately we can point to too many problems
associated not only with this department but with the government.
We will be voting in favour of this motion. We will continue to
strive for openness and transparency when it comes to procurement
by the Department of National Defence.
In closing I would like to cite two other examples. One of them
was a contract that was not tendered but was awarded to
Bombardier for $2.85 billion for training. It was done by the
Liberal government. I do not think Canadians were well served by
that particular contract, which was not negotiated.
The other example I would like to touch on briefly is that of
alternative service delivery. ASD makes sense, to a degree, but
unfortunately there is no openness, there is no transparency and
there is no ability for Canadians or parliamentarians to be able
to put forward their opinions on this particular program. That
is why a committee of this nature would be a good operational
necessity for parliament.
I stand on behalf of the Progressive Conservative Party and the
member for Compton—Stanstead to say that we will support this
motion. I wish the government would only listen. It does not
understand that what it is doing now does not resonate with the
Canadian public. It does not understand that what it is doing is
wrong.
All we have to say is EH-101 and I am sure Canadians will
understand.
Mr. Hec Clouthier (Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, Lib.):
Madam Speaker, it is simply unbelievable. The member for
Brandon—Souris was indulging in nothing more than scurrilous
rhetoric. He was talking about simple things. It is simply not
true. The hon. gentleman, and I use that term very loosely,
simply does not know. I forgive him and I know that the people
on this side of the House forgive him. He indulges in rhetoric.
He waves his arms like a big water buffalo, and I mean that
amicably. He just keeps on flailing away, thinking that it is
actually going to resonate with the people of the House and the
voting public who are listening, but that is simply not true.
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I listened with great interest to my colleague from Ottawa
Centre and the parliamentary secretary give a pointed, coherent
rationale of why we will oppose this motion.
I am pleased to speak to the motion put forward by the hon.
member for Joliette, but let me first look at it in terms of
public relations. I might add that some members opposite could
have used public relations firms to garner some insight and
knowledge before they stood to make these rather insane comments
about this motion.
Let us look at what we call the optics. How does it look? How
does it look not only to the government side but to the Canadian
public? There are circumstances under which this motion would
actually make sense; not many circumstances, but there are a few.
For example, if the House had no oversight on procurement,
whether for the armed forces, the specific object of this motion,
or any other department, it would make sense if this procurement
were done secretly, but it is not.
The motion would make sense if ministers of the government were
not accountable to parliament. Au contraire, we know that they
are accountable and they will continue to be accountable. There
are always elections to maintain the accountability of the
government, as well as question period and when ministers appear
before a standing committee.
The hon. member opposite is not a member of the standing
committee on national defence so he knows not of which he speaks.
His hon. colleague, the member for Compton—Stanstead, is a
member of the DND committee. Quite obviously he is not here
because he knows we are right in this regard and he has asked the
hon. member to stand in for him. I must say that after listening
to what he has said he probably will not ask him to do so again.
We can appear before standing committees which can address this
and any other issue.
There are five major policy cornerstones which uphold the
procurement process of the Government of Canada. They are: the
pre-eminence of operational requirements, competition, fairness,
transparency and accessibility.
Let us look at how this system works from a practical standpoint
and not an impractical viewpoint as we have heard expressed on
the other side.
First, ministers and their ministries are responsible and
accountable for following stringent contracting regulations and
Treasury Board policies on contracts. The preferred route for
most contracts above $25,000 is always competitive bidding.
In the great riding of Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke there is a
person who takes bids by the name of Colonel Ken Dillabough. He
says, as only they can say in the upper Ottawa valley “Okay,
lads and lassies, get up and loosen the purse strings. Put your
hand up and do the competitive bidding”. That is what we prefer
to do at all times, but there are exceptions.
There are exceptions to each and every rule, regardless of where
we are in life, when a contract must be sole sourced. One
example is proprietary interest. If a supplier is the only one
with the right to build and sell parts for the equipment it has
developed and marketed, the government is obliged to use that
supplier for that equipment. This makes sense and this
government is committed to making sense, as opposed to some of my
hon. colleagues opposite who come forth with nonsensical motions
brought forward by people who do not know of what they speak.
Sometimes sole sourcing must be used in pressing emergencies.
Quite simply, something has to be done fast and there is no time
to get bids. When national security or the national interest is
an issue, sole sourcing may be necessary. When that happens,
ministers of the crown and officials must follow strict rules,
and they are accountable to the government and ultimately to the
House for their actions.
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The truth is that most procurement is done through the
competitive process and that competitive procurement is on the
rise. In 1996, for instance, $83 of every $100 spent for
procurement contracts over $25,000 were committed through the
competitive process. In 1997, the last year for which Treasury
Board has its full figures, $89 of every $100 was spent as a
result of competitive bidding.
Let us consider another example of service contracts. I am
talking about everything from building maintenance to contracting
for medicinal services. In 1995, 55% of these contracts were
competitively let. The hon. member opposite knows full well that
55% of these contracts were competitively let. I will hold up my
fingers so the member understands. In 1997, only two years
later, this figure had risen to over 80%. I will get to the
member for Lakeland if I can get through this.
The system is transparent. Almost all procurement is done
competitively, and competitive bidding is on the rise. The trend
is toward more competition, not less competition; more
transparency; and more responsible use of public money.
Comparing our procurement system to those of other countries,
the treasury board secretariat has found that our performance is
much better than that of either the United States or the European
Union.
There is only one question remaining. Are the provisions for
oversight sufficient, especially for the steadily declining
fraction of procurement that is not done through the competitive
process? I believe they are and the government believes they
are. The mechanisms which ensure fair, transparent and
accessible procurement are in place.
For example, interdepartmental review committees that determine
defence procurement strategies review all procurements of $2
million or more. These committees may spot significant
socioeconomic opportunities in procurement. When they do, they
can suggest that conditions be included that open all or part of
the process to minority or new business interests which might
otherwise be frozen out. After the reviews are done, most of the
procurement action proposed are posted on the government's
electronic tendering service, on the Internet for bidding. To
ensure fairness they are published in the government's business
opportunities bulletin.
I occasionally disagree with the auditor general, but he does
look at issues and does report to the House. If a procurement
matter arises it can be the object of questions, of debate or of
study by any number of standing committees.
What does the author of this motion suggest? Is it that we set
up yet another standing committee for the sole purpose of looking
at major military procurements? Is there no standing committee
on national defence?
I know the hon. member for Lakeland mentioned that, but he used
to be on the standing committee of national defence. I guess his
own party basically pulled him from it because he knew not of
what he spoke. He made rather pejorative, egregious comments by
the DND SCONDVA committee saying that it had done nothing. The
Canadian public disagrees and the military disagrees.
We gave pay raises and more money for quality housing. I
suppose that is why the hon. member for Lakeland is no longer on
the DND committee. I suppose his own party yanked him from it
because he was doing no good there. He was of no benefit to us
because we were doing the things that the Canadian military and
Canadian public wanted. Is there no Standing Committee on Public
Accounts?
My time has run out. In conclusion, let it be said that the
government is opposed to the motion. We will not indulge in the
scurrilous rhetoric of members opposite. We will oppose the
motion because it is right that we oppose it.
The Deputy Speaker: The hon. member is correct; his time
has run out. In fact the time for Private Members' Business has
now expired and the order is dropped to the bottom of the order
of precedence on the order paper.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
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[Translation]
CANADIAN ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ACT, 1999
BILL C-32—TIME ALLOCATION MOTION
Hon. Don Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of
Commons, Lib.): Madam Speaker, I move:
That in relation to Bill C-32, an Act respecting pollution
prevention and the protection of the environment and human
health in order to contribute to sustainable development, not
more than one further sitting day shall be allotted to the
consideration of the report stage of the bill and one sitting day
shall be allotted to the third reading stage of the said bill
and, fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided for
government business on the day allotted to the consideration of
the report stage and on the day allotted to the third reading
stage of the said bill, any proceedings before the House shall be
interrupted, if required for the purpose of this Order, and in
turn every question necessary for the disposal of the stage of
the bill then under consideration shall be put forthwith and
successively without further debate or amendment.
Some hon. members: Shame.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the
motion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Some hon. members: No.
The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour will please say yea.
Some hon. members: Yea.
The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.
Some hon. members: Nay.
The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the yeas have it.
And more than five members having risen:
The Deputy Speaker: Call in the members.
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(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Adams
| Alcock
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
|
Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Carroll
| Catterall
| Cauchon
|
Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
| Clouthier
|
Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
|
Cullen
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dromisky
|
Drouin
| Duhamel
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Godfrey
|
Goodale
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
| Guarnieri
|
Harb
| Harvard
| Hubbard
| Ianno
|
Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
MacAulay
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Manley
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
|
McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Mifflin
| Minna
| Mitchell
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Pratt
|
Provenzano
| Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
|
Rock
| Saada
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Speller
| St. Denis
|
Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Julien
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Volpe
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 135
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Alarie
| Anders
|
Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
| Bellehumeur
| Benoit
|
Bigras
| Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brien
| Cadman
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
|
Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
|
Desjarlais
| Doyle
| Earle
| Epp
|
Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
|
Goldring
| Gouk
| Grewal
| Guimond
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Konrad
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lebel
|
Loubier
| Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
| Meredith
|
Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Reynolds
|
Sauvageau
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Solberg
| Stinson
|
St - Jacques
| Stoffer
| Strahl
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
|
White
(North Vancouver) – 61
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Debien
| Desrochers
|
Dion
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Graham
|
Laurin
| McCormick
| Ménard
| Mercier
|
Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| Plamondon
| Proud
|
Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
| Wappel
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare the motion carried.
[English]
REPORT STAGE
The House resumed from May 27 consideration of Bill C-32, an act
respecting pollution prevention and the protection of the
environment and human health in order to contribute to
sustainable development, as reported (with amendment) from the
committee; and of Group No. 4.
Mr. Bill Gilmour (Nanaimo—Alberni, Ref.): Madam Speaker,
I am pleased to participate in the report stage debate of the
Canadian Environmental Protection Act. There are 10 amendments
in Group No. 4 which deal with several issues. One of the issues
is cost effectiveness.
Motion No. 9 proposes to amend the bill to reinsert cost
effectiveness into the definition of the precautionary principle.
The internationally accepted definition of the precautionary
principle was endorsed in Rio by over 150 countries including
Canada. This Rio definition of sustainable development states
the following:
Where there are threats of serious or irreversible damage, lack
of full scientific certainty shall not be used as a reason for
postponing cost effective measures to prevent environmental
degradation.
This definition is now clearly recognized as a fundamental tenet
of international environmental law. The government response
stated that this definition of the precautionary principle would
be incorporated into the Canadian Environmental Protection Act.
When Bill C-32 was tabled in the House the Rio definition of
sustainable development including cost effectiveness was included
in the bill. However, when the bill went to the standing
committee some committee members voted to change this
internationally accepted definition by removing all references to
cost effectiveness.
Dropping cost effectiveness from the precautionary principle
will cause major problems for the future for both government and
industry. Industry must be able to implement sustainable
development measures and remain competitive and profitable.
Our approach to the environment must be balanced. We need a
strong and health economy to take concrete action to protect our
environment. These two work hand in hand. Simply put, if the
money is not there, we cannot and will not take action.
When there is no scientific certainty, which occurs in many
cases and is the essence of many voluntary agreements and MOUs
which the government has signed with industry, industry will take
cost effective actions to protect the environment.
However when science provides a clearer picture and demonstrates
that damage can occur then more onerous measures are considered
and will be applied.
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The precautionary principle allows Canadians to proceed with
caution in the interim phase. However when we eliminate cost
effectiveness from the equation it is likely that we will lose
the voluntary commitment of industry, which is critical to the
continued protection of the environment.
One of the reasons Reform opposed Bill C-74 in the last
parliament was the fact that the old CEPA bill would have made it
too difficult and costly for industry to implement realistically.
This is not a question of industry or the environment. It is a
question of what is in the best interest of all Canadians. The
environment is not a black or white issue. It is grey.
Protecting the environment affects all Canadians.
I am pleased to note that the government supports our position
on sustainable development and has proposed an identical
amendment to Reform Motion No. 9 with Liberal Motion No. 8.
However I am concerned that the government has failed to reinsert
references to cost effectiveness that were contained throughout
the bill when it was originally tabled in the House. These
sections were critical to the delicate balance which was struck
when the government consulted with industry and environment to
draft Bill C-32.
When Bill C-32 was originally tabled in the House cost
effectiveness was incorporated into a number of sections of the
bill including administrative duties, information gathering
provisions and pollution prevention planning. Some members of
the standing committee voted to eliminate these sections on cost
effectiveness from the bill. These amendments will not promote
greater environmental action or attention. They will not create
greater financial resources for government and industry to take
action because Canadians simply do not have the means to take
action beyond what is reasonable and cost effective.
In fact these amendments to the act may backfire by creating a
reluctance for partners to sign agreements that are neither cost
effective nor realistic. Without these amendments chances are
that we will see less, not more action.
Our Motions Nos. 10, 16 and 47 in this group propose to address
this concern by reinserting cost effectiveness into the bill.
Bill C-32 must integrate the principles of sustainable
development including environmental, economic and social
considerations.
Moving through this group of amendments, our Motion No. 18
contained within this group proposes to eliminate a new section
in the bill that was added in committee. The section which we
are proposing to eliminate simply makes little sense and opens
the bill to gross misinterpretation. This sections states:
Nothing in this section shall be construed so as to prevent the
taking of any action to protect the environment or human health
for the purposes of this Act.
This is simply far too open ended. Our amendment proposes to
reinstate the original clause put forward by the government when
Bill C-32 was tabled in the House more than a year ago. The
original section provided legal direction as to which legislation
would take precedence if there were a duplication between acts
which provide for the protection of the environment and human
health. When this section was removed it eliminated the decision
making mechanism from the act.
As well, Motion No. 22 in this grouping put forward by the NDP
proposes to integrate a new definition of hormone disrupting
substances into the definitions of the act. We will not support
this amendment as the proposed definition of hormone disrupting
substances is inconsistent with the internationally accepted
working definition originally proposed in the legislation. The
internationally accepted definition is:
Hormone disrupting substance means an exogenous substance that
causes adverse health effects in an intact organism, or its
progeny, consequent to changes in endocrine function.
We have put this definition of hormone disrupting substances
forward in our amendments to the bill and therefore will not
support Motion No. 22.
Motion No. 23, also put forward by the NDP, proposes a
definition of recyclable material in the interpretation section
of the act. The proposed definition reads:
Recyclable material means any material or aggregate of materials
that, at any particular time and place, has use or value”.
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Anything can be interpreted as having use or value. This
definition of recyclable material is clearly unacceptable. It is
too broad and open to be interpreted as meaning any thing or any
substance.
Motion No. 24 also proposes a new definition in the act where it
proposes to introduce a definition of waste. The proposal was to
define waste as any solid, liquid or gaseous material or
materials, or a combination of them, discarded or intended to be
discarded as useless and valueless, but excludes recyclable
material. Similar to Motion No. 23, the proposed definition is
far too vague and far to open-ended. Such definitions are
redundant as they serve absolutely no purpose when they are so
open to interpretation. These amendments serve little purpose in
fulfilling what is the intended mandate of the legislation.
We do not support amendments to the bill which extend the
application of the bill to deal with all waste, particularly when
dealing with exports. Our amendments to the bill propose that
the section of the bill dealing with export of hazardous waste be
limited to just that.
There is one item from this group of amendments that must be
addressed and that is the inclusion of cost-effectiveness
throughout the bill. I believe this is critical and hope members
from all sides of the House will give this issue serious
consideration before voting.
[Translation]
The Acting Speaker (Ms. Thibeault): Pursuant to order made on
Thursday, May 27, 1999, the questions on the motions in Group
No. 4 are deemed put and the recorded divisions are deemed
requested and deferred.
[English]
The House will now proceed to the debate on the motions in Group
No. 5. Pursuant to order made on Thursday, May 27, the motions
in Group No. 5 are deemed moved and seconded.
This groups contains Motions Nos. 17, 20, 21, 27 to 29, 34, 35,
40, 44, 45, 54, 55, 72, 75 to 79, 82, 92, 98 to 100, 102 to 104,
114, 124, 126, 127, 131, 134, 136, 140 to 145, 152, 157, 158, 162
to 166, 168, 170, 175, 177 to 180, 182, 184, 188, 190, 196, 199,
217 to 224, 226 to 229, 232 and 234 to 236.
Hon. Christine Stewart (Minister of the Environment, Lib.)
moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing line 6 on
page 5 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 16 on page 8 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing, in the
English version, line 18 on page 8 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 6, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 7 on page 12 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 6, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 10 and 11 on page 12 with the following:
“tochtones—sauf inuit—de Terre-Neuve, de
l'Île-du-Prince-Edouard, de la Nouvelle-Écosse et du
Nouveau-Brunswick,”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 6, be amended by replacing, in the
English version, lines 39 and 40 on page 12 with the following:
“(2)(c)(i) to (v), the representative of the Inuit or of
aboriginal people for the region, as the”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 17, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 22 on page 18 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 43, be amended
(a) by replacing line 14 on page 26 with the following:
“this Part.”
(b) by replacing, in the French version, lines 19 and 20 on
page 26 with the following:
“«substance hormonoperturbante» Substance ayant le pouvoir de”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 44, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 16 to 19 on page 28 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 46, be amended by replacing line 21 on
page 29 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 46, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 37 on page 29 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 57, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 4 on page 36 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 57, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 12 on page 36 with the following:
“(2) Si le plan utilisé au titre du paragraphe”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 68, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 14 on page 41 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 71, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 28 on page 43 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 71, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 14 on page 44 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 73, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 6 and 7 on page 45 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 73, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 16 on page 45 with the following:
“(2) Si les renseignements disponibles”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 73, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 22 to 26 on page 45 with the following:
“(3) Lorsqu'ils classent par catégories des substances
inscrites sur la liste intérieure, les ministres les examinent
afin de déterminer s'il y a lieu de modifier la liste en vue d'y
indiquer qu'elles sont assujetties au paragraphe”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 76.1, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 27 on page 47 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 78, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 33 on page 50 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 81, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 11 on page 53 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 81, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 23 and 24 on page 53 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 81, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 11 and 12 on page 54 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 82, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 31 and 32 on page 56 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 83, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 35 on page 56 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 83, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 2 and 3 on page 57 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 91, be amended by replacing, in the
English version, line 16 on page 64 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 96, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 6 to 8 on page 71 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 98, be amended by replacing, in the
English version, lines 12 and 13 on page 72 with the following:
“95(2)(b) to the extent that that person knowingly or
negligently caused or contributed to the”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 98, be amended by replacing, in the
English version, lines 27 to 29 on page 72 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 101, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 26 on page 74 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 102, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 19 on page 75 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 106, be amended
(a) by replacing line 39 on page 77 with the following:
“with the prescribed information, on or before the date”
(b) by replacing line 10 on page 78 with the following:
“with the prescribed information, on or before the date”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 108, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 9 on page 81 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 108, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 15 and 16 on page 81 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 109, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 2 on page 82 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 110, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 4 on page 83 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 110, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 24 on page 83 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 112, be
amended by replacing, in the French version, line 30 on page 84 with the
following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 117, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 37 on page 87 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 119, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 47 on page 88 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 119, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 20 to 22 on page 89 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 122, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 14 on page 91 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 122, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 3 on page 92 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 129, be amended by replacing, in the
English version, line 17 on page 98 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 129, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 26 on page 98 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 4 and 5 on page 100 with the following:
“133. (1) Le texte des permis canadiens et de ses
conditions—originales ou modifiées—sont publiés par le ministre
dans la Gazette du”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 135, be amended by replacing, in the
English version, line 18 on page 101 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 139, be amended by replacing, in the
English version, lines 16 and 17 on page 103 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 145, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 28 on page 106 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 148, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 7 to 9 on page 108 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 149, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 23 to 25 on page 108 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 149, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 30 on page 108 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 155, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 30 on page 111 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 157, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 21 and 22 on page 114 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 161, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 7 on page 118 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 170, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 23 on page 124 with the following:
“170. (1) Sa Majesté du chef du Canada peut recouvrer les frais
directs et indirects”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 175, be amended by replacing line 15
on page 127 with the following:
“175. In this Division, “water”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 180, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 29 on page 131 with the following:
“(3) Sous réserve du paragraphe (4), les personnes mentionnées
au paragra-”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 187, be amended by replacing, in the
English version, lines 34 and 35 on page 135 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 220, be amended by replacing, in the
English version, line 8 on page 163 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 260, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 11 and 12 on page 182 with the following:
“(2) La personne citée à comparaître a droit aux indemnités
appli-”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 284, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 7 on page 189 with the following:
“284. Malgré toute autre disposition de la présente”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 287, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 25 and 26 on page 190 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 287, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 34 and 35 on page 190 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 289, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, lines 19 to 21 on page 191 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 296, be amended by replacing line 20
on page 196 with the following:
“(ii) paragraph 272(1)(c), (d) or (e),”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 306, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 37 on page 201 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 325, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 31 on page 209 with the following:
“325. Le”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 326, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 27 on page 210 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 330, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 33 on page 212 with the following:
“par renvoi une norme, caractéristique technique, directive,
méthode,”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 332, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 36 on page 213 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 346, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, line 2 on page 218 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Schedule 997, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, the first line of item 4 on page 220 with the
following:
“4. Les chlorofluorocarbures complètement halogénés dont la”
That Bill C-32, in Schedule 998, be amended by replacing, in the
English version, the second line of item 20 of Part 2 on page 224
with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Schedule 999, be amended by replacing, in the
French version, the first line of item 1 of Part 3 on page 224
with the following:
“1. Les chlorofluorocarbures complètement halogénés dont la
for-”
Ms. Paddy Torsney (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of the
Environment, Lib.): Madam Speaker, all the motions relate to
French and English concurrence. As the bill was amended during
the committee process, we found that in many cases the French
and English were no longer equivalent. It is important to all
Canadians that the laws are able to be read and interpreted in
both official languages and come out with the same meaning.
These motions correct errors that were found during a further
review by the Department of Justice.
[Translation]
I trust that all members of this House will be in agreement
with a process that is aimed at maintaining the equivalency of
the English and the French in the bill. This is very important,
and I trust that there will be unanimous agreement in this
House.
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Ms. Jocelyne Girard-Bujold (Jonquière, BQ): Madam Speaker, I am
pleased to address the motions in Group No. 5.
There are many motions with which we agree in that group. There
are also some with which we disagree. Consequently, we will vote
against the group of motions, but we want to point out that we
support French and English concurrence Motions Nos. 20, 21, 27,
28, 34, 40, 45, 76 to 79, 82, 92, 140 to 145, 217 to 224.
Motions Nos. 54 and 55 concern Part 4 of the act dealing with
pollution prevention. The use of pollution prevention plans
would centralize control over environmental matters in the hands
of the federal government, and we cannot support that approach.
We will vote against Motion No. 124, dealing with clause 96
under the heading, “Release of Toxic Substances”, because the
deletion of certain terms deprives the provinces of their role
and overlooks provincial provisions.
As for Motion No. 199, dealing with the export of material, we
proposed amendments that were rejected by the committee.
Therefore, we are opposed to any changes, even to ensure
French-English concurrence, on this issue.
Motion No. 180 concerns Division 5 entitled “Vehicle, Engine and
Equipment Emissions”, and involves adjustments between the
French and English versions. However, since we are opposed to
that division of the act, we cannot support this block of
amendments.
With respect to clauses 72 and 75, the proposed concurrence
amendments indicate some serious problems of comprehension.
They do not clarify particularly well the discrepancy between
the French and the English. So, we cannot support them.
We have reached Group No. 5 in which the government has proposed
a whole lot of concurrence amendments and new amendments to Bill
C-32. This bill, it should be pointed out, concerns pollution
prevention and the protection of the environment and human
health in order to contribute to sustainable development.
It is surprising that the government, after allowing a committee
to study amendments for weeks, arrives at report stage and
suddenly begins to table motions concerning vital sectors such
as pollution prevention, toxic waste, substance exports,
vehicle, engine and equipment emissions, and so on.
We can see the government did not structure this bill properly
from the start so that, finally, in Canada, Quebec and the other
provinces might have the elements they need to enable them to
oversee environment policy within their jurisdiction.
Throughout the process, I could not help but notice this
government really did not want to act. It spent its time saying
“We will endeavour”. In life, either you act or you do not. I
note that this government does not honour areas of jurisdiction
under its own Constitution.
It is curious that today a member of the Bloc Quebecois is
telling a Liberal government that it should honour its own
Constitution. As a sovereignty party, we think that sovereignty
within legislation that must be properly implemented begins with
agreements with the authorities that are best able to make
decisions and are closest to the real problems of the
individuals and the society in general.
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I cannot help but note that this government did not even deign
to act. In the first version of Bill C-32 studied in committee,
the government claimed to want to act, to want to do things. I
thought that was good, and I took part to give them a hand so
that the legislation on environment and protection would be
good. As the days, weeks and months passed, they changed the
word “act” to “perhaps”. They said “We will perhaps act” to
justify their inaction.
I note that, since this government took office, it has cut 40%
of the budget of the Department of the Environment. These are
the very Liberal members today, in this House, who let the
government act.
Right now, there is a dearth of inspectors and money to enforce
the present environmental legislation. There is a lack of
consistency. They cannot agree among themselves. What is this?
The government wants to regain control over all things
provincial and do things its way.
Had it known what it wanted, it would have made funds available
to the Department of the Environment. But that is not what it
is doing. In addition, it is leaving the provinces to do the
dirty work.
Last week, the member for Lac-Saint-Louis, who is now in the
House, had the misfortune to mention the pulp and paper
agreements between the Government of Quebec and the federal
government.
I will give figures that are quite different from those provided
by the member for Lac-Saint-Louis.
In 1996, 65 pulp and paper plants in Quebec submitted their
annual environmental compliance reports; daily and average SS
release limits were respected by 25 plants 99% and 95% of the
time; daily and average B0D5 release limits were respected 97%
and 94% of the time; daily and average AOX release limits were
respected 96% and 93% of the time.
I could provide other figures. It is true that agreements are
important, that the federal government should allow the
provinces to exercise authority within their own jurisdictions.
Giving out inaccurate information proves that it is not the Bloc
Quebecois that is hurting the government's image but the
government itself, by failing to take action.
If it were to actually do something, we would be working
together—as we did in committee during the clause by clause
analysis—towards fair and equitable legislation that would be a
model for the world.
Mr. Clifford Lincoln (Lac-Saint-Louis, Lib.): Madam Speaker, I did
not intend to speak to this group of amendments, but in response
to the comments by my colleague from Jonquière, for whom I have
a great deal of respect for his work in committee, I would like
to point out that the pulp and paper statistics I quoted the
other day for Quebec came from the report by the environment
commissioner himself, which was tabled last week here in
parliament.
These figures speak volumes. They show that in 1995, 1996, and
1997, if memory serves, there were deficient or problematical
mills in 1995, 15 mills in 1996 and, I think, 27 in 1997.
The figures may vary from year to year. Problematical mills for
these three years add up to a total of 45. There was only one
prosecution over those three years, according to the
commissioner.
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He also reported that Quebec had said that corrective action
would be taken. In fact, this is a report to the federal
government, stating something along the following “You sign
agreements, make certain arrangements, but if the others who
have signed these agreements—in this case, the province of
Quebec—do not manage to get anything done under these agreements,
what do you do?”
The commissioner pointed out that the federal government had not
been able to produce the remedial reports it was supposed to in
connection with the problems found in these plants. His report
makes this very clear.
I am not the one saying this, the commissioner is in his
official report. If the Government of Quebec does not agree
with the commissioner, let it settle things with him.
The commissioner also indicated that the Government of Quebec
was not the only one involved, as I also pointed out in my
speech. In the case of the governments of Saskatchewan and
Alberta, there had never been reports produced on the delegation
of the Fisheries Act which, under section 36, as hon. members
are aware, is administered by the Department of the Environment.
There is a delegation of powers here as well, and the Alberta
and Saskatchewan departments of the environment are not even
required to table the reports to the federal government demanded
by this section.
The commissioner said that also.
This does not come from me. If the figures are incorrect, the
governments of Quebec, Alberta or Saskatchewan just have to
blame the environment commissioner.
Personally, I am willing to accept the figures and the
statistics made public by the environment commissioner because
he would not have made them public without making a thorough
investigation. The figures are clear, and that is what is
happening.
What I wanted to show is that many members of the Bloc Quebecois
have been saying that everything is always wonderful in Quebec
and that all the problems are at the federal level. I admit
there are problems at the federal level. It is clear from our
comments in the Standing Committee on the Environment and
Sustainable Development that we are not trying to hide the
problems that exist at the federal level.
That is what the commissioner did, which is what I wanted to
point out. But, at the same time, we cannot say everything is
fine at the provincial level and everything is bad at the
federal level. We always hear the same tune.
The commissioner wanted to say very clearly, with regard to the
delegation of powers, that we delegate to the provinces, which,
in turn, delegate to everybody else. Budget cuts are being made
on top of the ones made by Environment Canada, and the big
losers are the environment and human health because, as I said,
the fox is in charge of the chicken coop. That is what is
happening with this hasty and excessive delegation of powers,
and that is all I wanted to point out.
[English]
The Acting Speaker (Ms. Thibeault): Pursuant to order made on
Thursday, May 27, the divisions on the proposed motions in Group
No. 5 are deemed demanded and deferred.
[Translation]
The House will now proceed to the debate on the motions in Group No. 6.
Pursuant to order adopted on Thursday, May 27, 1999, the motions
in Group No. 6 are deemed to have been moved and seconded.
[English]
This group contains Motions Nos. 36 to 38, 41, 70 and 73.
Mr. Rick Laliberte (Churchill River, NDP) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 43, be amended by adding after line 14
on page 26 the following:
““areas that are reasonably accessible to children” include
homes, schools, day care centres, shopping malls, movie theatres,
beaches and parks.”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 43, be amended by adding after line 14
on page 26 the following:
““environmental pollutant” means a substance that endangers
the health, safety or welfare of humans or animal life, degrades
or alters, or forms part of a process of degradation or
alteration of, an ecosystem to an extent that is detrimental to
its use by humans, animals or plants.”
Mr. Bill Gilmour (Nanaimo—Alberni, Ref.) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 43, be amended by replacing lines 17
to 24 on page 26 with the following:
Mr. Rick Laliberte (Churchill River, NDP) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 44, be amended by adding after line 24
on page 28 the following:
“(5) The Ministers shall conduct research or studies relating
to a safer environment for children and shall (a) identify
environmental pollutants commonly used or found in areas that are
reasonably accessible to children; (b) create a list that has
been reviewed by a team of scientists of environmental pollutants
identified under paragraph (a) to have known, probable, or
suspected health risks to children; (c) create a scientifically
reviewed list of safer-for-children substances and products
recommended by the Ministers for use in areas that are reasonably
accessible to children and that will minimize potential risks to
children from exposure to environmental pollutants;
(d)
establish guidelines to help reduce and eliminate the exposure of
children to environmental pollutants in areas reasonably
accessible to children, including advice on how to establish an
integrated environmental pollutant reduction program; (e)
create a family right-to-know information kit that includes a
summary of helpful information and guidance to families,
including the list created under paragraph (c), the guidelines
established under paragraph (d), information on the potential
health effects of environmental pollutants, practical suggestions
on how parents may reduce their children's exposure to
environmental pollutants and other relevant information, as
determined by the Ministers; (f) make all information gathered
under this subsection available to governments and the public;
and (g) review and update the lists created under paragraphs
(b) and (c) at least every two years.”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 67, be amended by replacing line 4 on
page 41 with the following:
“the property or characteristic; and (e) respecting the
guidelines, conditions and procedures relating to compliance to
be followed, in relation to the property on characteristic of the
substance, in areas that are reasonably accessible to children,
to ensure a safer environment for children.”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 68, be amended by replacing line 24 on
page 42 with the following:
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[Translation]
Ms. Jocelyne Girard-Bujold (Jonquière, BQ): Madam Speaker, it is a
pleasure to stand up once more in this Chamber to address the
motions in Group No. 6. That group is made of Motions Nos. 36 to
38, 41, 70 and 73. They relate to hormone disrupting substances.
During the clause by clause study of the bill in committee, the
Bloc Quebecois approved the redefinition of those substances.
That is why we cannot support Motions Nos. 36, 37, 41, 70 and
73, that the hon. member for Churchill put forward in the name
of his party.
If they were adopted, these motions would give the federal
government additional powers in areas outside its jurisdiction
through clauses 43 and 45 of the act. For example, all things
concerning children are under provinces' jurisdiction. With
those amendments the federal government could have a say about
homes, schools, daycare facilities and the like. These areas are
of no concern to the Minister of the Environment.
We are in a situation where several hon. members would like to
reduce the powers of the provinces by giving the federal
government exclusive jurisdiction in certain areas. Again, this
is the bad habit of centralization through national standards
with the objective of getting one's hands on what belongs to
others.
As for Motion No. 38, proposed by the hon. member for
Nanaimo—Alberni, we cannot support it. Members of the Bloc do not
accept the vision underlying this motion which narrows the
definition of hormone disrupting substance by redefining it in
very vague terms.
With that motion, the Reform Party is showing its true colours,
in that it does not think that we need environmental protection
legislation. Reformers think that we would be better off without
such legislation. Everybody could do as he or she pleases and
taxpayers would save money.
Throughout the committee hearings, every time we were dealing
with the crucial amendments needed to set the course straight
and tell the government: “You have cut the environment budget
enough. You no longer have enough inspectors to enforce the
current legislation”. Every time we did something to get things
moving, to provide a more specific framework, Reform members
were against it. They wanted to ensure freedom of choice. But
enough is enough.
As I have shown by putting forward 41 amendments in Group No. 2,
we firmly believe that the provinces, including Quebec, have
greater knowledge of the specifics of their natural environment
and are in a position to arouse the interest and encourage the
participation of local residents, are more open to the claims of
environmental groups, are able to conclude significant
agreements with national and international partners and lastly
have indicated their desire to find solutions to environmental
challenges and to contribute actively to sustainable
development.
Before the Kyoto summit, it was impossible to find out what was
the federal government's vision, its action plan. In 1997, all
of the provincial ministers of the Environment attended a
meeting.
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They submitted a common proposal to the federal government. It
expressed their vision and they wanted the federal government to
bring it to Kyoto.
They had accomplished quite a feat. All provincial environment
ministers had finally sat at the same table and reached an
agreement. This was too much for the federal government;
finally, there was a coalition. The ten provinces, gathered
around the same table, were telling the federal government “That
is it”. But the federal government, and Liberal members in
particular, are quite touchy.
What did they do? When they arrived in Kyoto, they took a
completely opposite position.
At last, the Canadian government could have had some influence
on the international scene. It could have taken a strong
position, with the support of the ten provinces. But it
preferred to continue the tradition: what comes from the outside
is not acceptable to this government.
I am not trying to impute motives here but the more I study the
environment issue, the more I see this government acting just
like the Reform Party. The member for Palliser mentioned the
following in his speech last week “The Liberal Party spends the
other 23 hours and 15 minutes—after the 45 minutes each day at
question period when Liberal cabinet ministers, one after
another, stand to condemn the Reform Party for all things that
are wrong with this country—doing the business of the Reform
Party in producing very bad legislation for this country”.
I believe we could have introduced a truly progressive act. We
were prepared to do so. We wanted to finally have an act dealing
with urgent problems. Unfortunately, the centralizing approach
of this government, based on its policy of double social
security net for environmental protection, has been
disappointing.
This is why we will be voting against Group No. 6 amendments.
[English]
Hon. Charles Caccia (Davenport, Lib.): Madam Speaker, I
rise to make an intervention to express an interest and a
positive feeling in relation to Motions Nos. 41 and 70 proposed
by the hon. member for Churchill River.
Motion No. 41 is a very forward-looking legislative thought
because the Minister of the Environment and Minister of Health
would be required to take certain actions, such as conducting
research or developing guidelines in relation to environmental
pollutants that might be harmful to children.
Motion No. 70 would broaden powers by allowing the development
of regulations respecting substances to ensure a safer
environment for children.
In both cases, the member for Churchill River, quite rightly,
recognizes the fact, established in the case of lead for
instance, that children are much closer to pollutants than adults
when there are pollutants in the air and therefore ought to be
given particular protection considering their sensitivity, their
delicate nature and that they are in a development stage.
The member for Churchill River ought to be congratulated for
taking the initiative that he has taken.
I would like to express the hope that the government will listen
and take into account these two particular propositions by the
member for Churchill River, who has certainly expressed a concern
that is very timely and very well integrated with the overall
thrust of a government that seems to put particular emphasis on
the well-being of children.
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Mr. John Herron (Fundy—Royal, PC): Madam Speaker, it is
my pleasure to speak to the Canadian Environmental Protection Act
and the amendments in Group No. 6. A few of the amendments were
put forward by our Reform colleagues as well as by the member for
Churchill River. I would like to highlight these at this time.
In Motion No. 38 Reform is attempting to alter the definition of
endocrine disrupters included in the information gathering
section of the bill to the Weybridge definition.
Ms. Paddy Torsney: Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order.
For clarification are we still on Group No. 5?
The Acting Speaker (Ms. Thibeault): No, we are now
discussing Group No. 6.
Mr. John Herron: Madam Speaker, during the committee
hearings we often saw that the parliamentary secretary was a step
behind in some of the amendments throughout the clause by clause
process. This actually replicates what we saw on an ongoing
basis.
This replies to the issue with respect to the Reform and the
government side on the Canadian Environmental Protection Act and
endocrine disrupters. There has been a bit of debate about what
is the accepted definition for these very harmful substances. I
would like to point out that had it not been for the due
diligence of members like the member for Lac-Saint-Louis, the
member for York North, the member for Davenport, the NDP, the
Bloc and the Progressive Conservatives, I doubt that there would
have been the political pressure for any amendments with respect
to endocrine disrupters in this bill.
This is an emerging science. There is no truly accepted
international definition. A definition was exposed at the
Weybridge conference a number of years ago and which a number of
scientists in the international community actually saw. There is
a definition in the United States Environmental Protection Act.
Essentially the definition we see here, which was moved by the
NDP and was voted on and approved by the Bloc, the Progressive
Conservatives and some government members, is a melange of the
U.S. EPA and the Weybridge definitions. To use the words of the
environment officials, it is indeed a very workable definition.
The Reform Party would have us believe that the Weybridge
definition is internationally accepted. It is not. That
definition came out of an OECD meeting held in Weybridge, U.K. A
melange of the U.S. EPA and the Weybridge definitions is what is
in the information gathering section of CEPA. The environment
officials consider it to be very workable.
Canada is already a world leader in endocrine disrupters
research. The definition we chose to work with should reflect
our strength and knowledge of these substances. The NDP motions
will add the need for the government to conduct research relating
to a safer environment for children by identifying pollutants
commonly found in areas accessible to children and identifying
the risks in order to advise the public of potential danger.
This is a good initiative for the well-being of children.
Children grow at a faster rate than adults do. The ongoing
development of their organs makes them especially vulnerable to
toxins in our environment. The nervous system in particular can
be greatly affected by exposure to some toxins. We need to do
more to ensure that they are protected from dangerous
contaminants where they live, play and grow.
The metabolic pathways of newborns are not as sophisticated as
those found in adults. This means their ability to fight off
exposure to toxins in the environment is less than that of
adults. They experience greater exposure to toxins than adults
do because they consume more water, fruit and vegetables and when
resting breathe more air than average adults do.
Their tendency to place their dirty hands in their mouths and
play on the ground also provides them with a greater risk of
exposure to environmental toxins.
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Parents, doctors and governments need to be educated on the
risks children are being exposed to on a daily basis. This is
why we support the motion by my NDP friend and colleague from
Churchill River. It is a valuable augmentation to the
legislation. I encourage all members of this House to support
that amendment.
Mr. Rick Laliberte (Churchill River, NDP): Madam Speaker,
it is appropriate that we are dealing with Bill C-32 at this
time. This is the beginning of environment week in Canada. The
environment should be of utmost priority.
The group of amendments before us will strengthen the
environmental protection of this country, its citizens and its
whole biodiversity. The motions in Group No. 6 deal specifically
with children. We have had great debate over this past year on
Bill C-32.
The Canadian population has seen our environment experience
major drastic changes and effects from pollution, toxic
substances, pesticides and biotechnology. The growth of the
industrial revolution and its impact on our environment, our
livelihood and our health is coming to a point where we have to
be very cautious of what we do in the future. If we are not
cautious the children will be responsible for cleaning up the
mess that we leave. We are cleaning up what the previous
generation left us and we would hate to be responsible for
leaving a mess for our children to clean up.
The motions in Group No. 6 challenge the federal ministers of
health and the environment. As my hon. colleagues from the Bloc
have highlighted, this may contradict their belief that federal
and provincial responsibilities are the main question in their
decision. I would beg all members of the House to look at the
vulnerability of our children first. Let us put aside our
federal and provincial differences. Let us put aside our
partisan differences in the House and look at the vulnerability
of our children as a whole. Let us look at our own homes, our
children and grandchildren. Let us look at the role we hope to
see ourselves play as grandparents in the future.
If we do not specify the uniqueness of our children and their
vulnerability, we will have missed our responsibility as
parliamentarians and as parents. Even before children are born
and their growth pattern starts, they are immediately exposed by
their mother's responsibility of providing food and drink. As
our children are growing and developing we sometimes do not
detect the effects of the many toxins and substances they are
exposed to. We assume it is their natural growing and development
curve.
If adults were exposed to the same toxins and are poisoned or
affected neurologically in terms of behaviour or physically in
terms of their organs, they would see a sudden change in that
pattern. They would look to their doctors for an analysis
because they would know that something was drastically wrong.
They would go to clinics and ask for help and seek advice from
nurses.
Children cannot speak for themselves. We cannot find out what
substances have been causing major changes in neurological and
behaviour disorders, the function of their organs and their
growing patterns. Children do not know if something is wrong.
We naturally accept their growth and development to be the same
as other children.
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As the hon. member for Fundy Royal mentioned, pound for pound
children consume more water, food and air than adults do so we
have to take special care. The amendments we have put forward
specifically look at the areas children inhabit, such as
playgrounds and school yards. They may be adjacent to major
industries and manufacturing companies. If the provincial and
federal health and environment ministers send their information
gathering officers out and they only take samples in general
throughout the whole community they may overlook specific needs.
They may not look at swimming pools or waterslides. With
temperatures like today's their use will rise during the summer.
Children do not think about what kind of substances they are
exposed to in swimming pools or at the many beaches, lakes and
cottages where people seek a haven with a clean environment and
clean air. Some waterways are affected by certain industries and
if they go undetected there are drastic impacts.
We are looking at specific sites and recommending that due
respect be given to the vulnerability of children. We must not
overlook it. We must take our responsibility very seriously that
we do not put them at risk.
Another contentious issue I bring forward is the leadership of
our country on the environment. A recent report from the
commissioner of the environment said that the government has done
well in providing guidance and being in the lead of making press
releases of initiatives but when it comes to action there is a
major gap. Press releases and press conferences have highlighted
what is going to happen and what hopefully will happen but when
it comes to getting the budgets, the resources and the personnel
to make it happen, that is where the major weakness is in the
Liberal government's leadership.
That is why I call for time to reflect at this time. Let us
make sure that the provisions of the act are strengthened. Let
us make sure the protection of our children and children's
specific issues are highlighted in the bill.
This past week we received a highlight of a major conference in
New York. It was specifically on the impact of the environment
on children and their specific health issues. The Government of
Canada must take leadership on these issues and call on the
provincial and municipal governments, the health leadership of
this country to create a dialogue about what specific issues have
to be discussed.
Bill C-32 is on its way if the amendments do not diminish any of
the strong clauses. Common sense prevailed through the committee
process and it strengthened the bill. If this bill survives that
whole process, this bill should be enacted and brought forward.
It would give leadership to the people, the parents, the
teachers, the health care workers, the caregivers and provide
them with an opportunity to contribute. A lot of this could be
driven on the needs of the children. That is what the provisions
in Group No. 6 highlight.
We did not have an opportunity to speak on Group No. 5. We
recognize that a lot of the amendments were concordance of the
French and English translations, but there were substantive
changes. We draw attention to a concern we have on the issue of
interpretation and the law for loopholes because this will be a
legal document.
Be careful on some of the amendments.
They may look like housekeeping amendments but the government has
proven to be untrustworthy in many cases through its record on
environment. We will try to make it accountable right to the
bitter end to make sure that the health and safety of Canadians,
and specifically our children, are covered under Bill C-32.
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Mr. Bill Gilmour (Nanaimo—Alberni, Ref.): Madam Speaker,
there are six amendments in Group No. 6. Five of them are from
the NDP and one is put forward by Reform.
Our amendment, Motion No. 38, deals with the definition of
endocrine disrupters in clause 43. When we talk of endocrine
disrupters many Canadians today are still uncertain as to what
they are. This is for a very good reason. Hormone disrupters is
a relatively new concept that has only come to light in recent
years. It is still a matter of intense study and research.
Hormone disrupting substances were first made popular by Theo
Colborn in his book, Our Stolen Future, published around
three years ago.
Hormones are produced and released into the blood stream by a
variety of glands. Hormones are essential for regulating many of
our biological processes. They guide the development of sexual
characteristics, the immune and nervous systems, the brain, and
behavioural characteristics.
Our hormones and our glands together make up our endocrine
system. That is what we have been talking about: the endocrine
system, our hormones and our glands. Hormone disrupters
allegedly disrupt the endocrine system and may cause birth
defects, cancer, genetic damage or even death. This is now a
matter of international study and research.
As I stated when addressing the Group No. 4 amendments, when
Bill C-32 was originally tabled in the House it contained a
definition of hormone disrupters which was consistent with the
internationally accepted definition. This working definition of
endocrine disrupters was adopted by the OECD in the United
Kingdom in December 1996.
Unfortunately some members of the standing committee voted to
come up with a new definition of hormone disrupters. This new
definition puts Canada at a disadvantage as we will be out of
step with the rest of the world. Canada should move forward in
unison with the rest of the world to tackle key emerging
endocrine issues. However, as our definition will be
inconsistent we will not benefit as well from research and
studies conducted elsewhere. Similarly our results and
experience will not benefit others in the international
community. Canada will benefit little, if at all, by going on
its own in this very serious issue.
In conclusion, there is one significant amendment in this group
which must be considered, and that is to ensure that Canada's
definition of endocrine disrupting substances is consistent with
that of the rest of the world.
[Translation]
Mr. Réginald Bélair (Timmins—James Bay, Lib.): Madam Speaker, in
1995, when it reviewed the Canadian Environmental Protection
Act, the Standing Committee on the Environment and Sustainable
Development wrote “The government cannot protect the environment
on its own, and it should not be expected to do so. Everybody
has an interest in a healthy, clean and safe environment, and
has a role to play in the protection of our environment”.
Bill C-32 reflects the philosophy that protecting the environment
is everybody's responsibility. It puts the emphasis on
partnership with other governments in Canada and abroad in other
to address common issues.
But governments cannot act alone, and the duties of the federal
government as set out in Bill C-32 provide that it should
encourage the participation of the people of Canada in the
making of decisions that affect the environment, and facilitate
the protection of the environment by the people of Canada.
Let me describe briefly how Bill C-32 translates these general
duties in specific opportunities for public participation.
We want Canadians to know how their environment is faring.
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Under Bill C-32, the minister may continue to publish reports on
the state of the environment and is legally bound to publish the
national inventory of releases of pollutants. This is how
Canadians will know exactly what quantities of pollutants have
been released in their own community.
However, the information is of no use if people cannot use it
and have ready access to it.
This provision requires the establishment of an environmental
registry to facilitate access to these documents and to all
other documents relating to the present bill, including notices
of the periods set for the public to gather observations and to
obtain a permit; intergovernmental agreements; objectives,
directives and codes of practice; and, finally, the regulations
under the Canadian Environmental Protection Act. The government
also intends to add the Registry to the Internet to make it even
more accessible.
Access to information on the environment does not simply just
encourage public dialogue on environmental issues, it is vital
as well to ensure enlightened participation in decision-making.
This bill also makes participation in decision-making easier by
ensuring individuals always have the right to present a notice
of opposition to a proposed regulation and by increasing avenues
of intervention to include the right to make observations on the
scientific merit of evaluations done to determine whether a
substance is toxic and to make observations on proposed
equivalence agreements and on agreements regarding the creation
of legislation between the federal government and other
governments in Canada.
The public must know the government takes their observations
into account. This then is why Bill C-32 sets out clearly the
minister's obligation to report on measures taken in response to
such observations.
Bill C-32 also recognises that there are circumstances in which
the public should be able to demand direct actions.
It gives individuals the right to call for an investigation
when, in their opinion, the CEPA has been infringed. This
legislation will require the minister to be more accountable,
because he will be obliged to periodically report the progress
of the study.
Measures have also been taken in this bill to ensure that
individuals reporting violations of the CEPA may do so without
appear of reprisal. These individuals may ask that their
identity be protected, and anyone revealing the identity of a
whistleblower is committing an offence. This bill as well
provides protection to people providing information at the work
place: anyone found harassing, disciplining or dismissing an
employee who has reported a violation of the CEPA is committing
an offence.
Bill C-32 contains a new right allowing an individual who did not
personally suffer a prejudice to bring an action against someone
who is alleged to have violated the Canadian Environmental
Protection Act.
The provisions granting this new right were drafted with great
care to avoid frivolous actions. For example, the claimant can
only bring an action after having asked the minister to launch
an investigation on the alleged offence, and only if the
measures contemplated by the minister following the
investigation to ensure compliance with CEPA or its regulations
are unreasonable and the offence caused material injury to the
environment.
To avoid having such actions being brought by “bounty hunters”
trying to get rich, Bill C-32 explicitly limits the payment of
damages.
These provisions thus have the effect of preventing someone from
bringing an action for the purpose of making money. However, the
claimant may recover costs incurred for any investigation into
the case and for the action.
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Bill C-32 is a sincere effort to meet the expectations of the
public, which wants to play a greater role in the protection of
its environment. It is groundbreaking legislation on the rights
of citizens, and we expect this House to give it the
consideration that it deserves and to pass it as quickly as
possible.
The Speaker: We will now proceed to Statements by Members.
STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS
[English]
CROHN'S AND COLITIS FOUNDATION OF CANADA
Mr. Lynn Myers (Waterloo—Wellington, Lib.): Mr. Speaker,
the Crohn's and Colitis Foundation of Canada is a voluntary, not
for profit medical research foundation dedicated to finding the
cure for Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis and inflammatory
bowel disease. There is no known cause or cure and there are an
estimated 100,000 men and women in Canada suffering from IBD.
People are most frequently diagnosed between the ages of 15 to
25.
The CCFC funds educational programs for health professionals,
IBD patients and their families. To date the CCFC has invested
more than $21 million in major research projects.
This year marked the 11th time 260 M & M meat shops fired up
their barbecues in their various communities in Canada for the
annual fundraiser. This event nationwide raised $702,000 this
year, which now totals an astounding $4 million. I congratulate
the M & M meat shops across Canada for doing all that they do in
this area.
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PROSTATE CANCER
Mr. Ted White (North Vancouver, Ref.): Mr. Speaker, last
Wednesday Mr. Jim Pattison, perhaps B.C.'s most well known and
respected entrepreneur, pledged $20 million to help fund the
Vancouver prostate cancer research team headed by Dr. Larry
Goldenberg. The team also includes Dr. Martin Gleave who helped
me with the Prostate Cancer Awareness Day for MPs which was held
on the Hill in March 1998.
Thanks to the dedication of professionals like Dr. Goldenberg
and the generosity of Jim Pattison, work on finding a cure for
prostate cancer can proceed in Canada at a level that was
previously only dreamed about.
The fact remains, though, that Mr. Pattison pledged more funding
for prostate cancer research in one afternoon than the health
minister has promised over five years, even though prostate
cancer kills as many men as breast cancer kills women.
In the light of last Wednesday's announcement, I urge the
minister to revisit his medical research priorities list and to
significantly increase funding for prostate cancer research.
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CANADIAN VOLUNTEER ADVISERS TO BUSINESS
Mr. Bryon Wilfert (Oak Ridges, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, today
I acknowledge the outstanding efforts of one of my constituents,
Mr. Tom Gibson.
Accompanied by his wife Betty, he went on assignment to
Lithuania with the Canadian Volunteer Advisers to Business. He
spent six weeks in Vilnius, advising the municipality of the
establishment of a tourism advisory board and preparing a
business plan for the tourism department.
He drafted a constitution for the board modelled on Ontario
bylaws and proposed the list of initial members. He developed
the composition, duties and responsibilities of the board and
contact associations, indirect suppliers and allied
organizations.
Mr. Gibson expects the result of his work will be improved
working relations between the municipality and the tourism
industry. I ask the House to join me in congratulating Mr.
Gibson for his fine work as a volunteer for the Canadian
Volunteers Advisers to Business in this, its 31st year of
service.
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THE ENVIRONMENT
Ms. Paddy Torsney (Burlington, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, it is
my pleasure to rise today to celebrate Canadian Environment Week.
The theme this year is community action on clean air and climate
change. June 2 marks the first Clean Air Canada Day. Each year
the Wednesday of environment week, starting this year, will
celebrate Clean Air Day Canada.
I encourage all Canadians to pay particular attention to two of
the many environmental priorities of the government: improving
the quality of air Canadians breathe and addressing climate
change by reducing greenhouse gas emissions. All of us have the
chance on Wednesday to join environmental, health and
transportation groups in promoting the activities these
individuals engage in all year, and especially during May and
June.
The Canadian commuter challenge involves Victoria, Vancouver,
Calgary, London, and the national capital region. These cities
are in competition to reduce air pollution and greenhouse gases
by finding healthier ways to commute. Other cities will have
other activities.
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In celebration of environment week, please join me in
encouraging all Canadians to participate in clean air activities.
Walk to work on Wednesday, ride the—
The Speaker: The hon. member for
Abitibi—Baie-James—Nunavik.
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[Translation]
CANADA POST
Mr. Guy St-Julien (Abitibi—Baie-James—Nunavik, Lib.): Mr. Speaker,
Canada Post has just provided us with its performance report for
the fiscal year that ended in March 1999.
Canada Post is the first postal administration in the world to
have the quality of its service checked by a third party and to
make the results public.
The service performance objectives set for the 1998-99 fiscal
year were higher than those for the previous year.
For the first time, the auditors were able to measure the
performance of Canada Post in rural areas as well.
Despite the higher standards it had set for itself, Canada Post
delivered 97% of local mail, 97% of regional mail, and 96% of
national mail in a timely manner.
Congratulations to Canada Post, the Hon. André Ouellet and all
the employees who have put so much effort into improving the
service. Keep up the good work serving the people of Canada.
* * *
[English]
IMPAIRED DRIVING
Mr. Richard M. Harris (Prince George—Bulkley Valley,
Ref.): Mr. Speaker, drunk drivers kill over 1,400 people a
year and injure over 60,000. It is a tragic and senseless crime.
The Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights last week
presented a report and draft legislation aimed at fighting
impaired driving. All parties on the committee agreed that the
legislation would go a long way to fight this senseless crime and
agreed to fast track it to get it done before the summer recess.
Now Bloc members are threatening to hold up the process, to kill
the fast track and perhaps kill the bill. Maybe they should try
to justify their actions to the families of the victims of
Silvain Bwah. Maybe they should do that.
I urge the government to introduce this drunk driver bill
immediately to ensure that this session does not end without us
taking a giant step in the fight against impaired driving.
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[Translation]
WORLD NO TOBACCO DAY
Mrs. Carolyn Bennett (St. Paul's, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, today is
World No Tobacco Day.
[English]
I rise today to speak on the occasion of World No Tobacco Day.
Youth smoking rates in Canada have increased by 25% since 1991
and recent figures show that half a million Canadian teenagers
are daily smokers.
Tobacco kills approximately 3.5 million people a year worldwide,
10,000 per day. This afternoon the Canadian Society for
International Health and the Pan American Health Organization
will be hosting a public forum on Parliament Hill to discuss the
nicotine issue and new approaches to cessation.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of the
panellists: David Sweanor, senior legal counsel for the
Non-Smokers' Rights Association, Dr. Andrew Pipe and Dr. Robert
Reid from the University of Ottawa Heart Institute, and Dr. Mark
Taylor, President of Physicians for a Smoke-Free Canada. I would
also like to thank Janet Hatcher Roberts, the executive director
of the Canadian Society for International Health, and Maureen
Johnson, also of CSIH, for their help.
This is not just a Liberal issue, a government issue or even a
Canadian issue. This is a world problem and I hope that I can
count on all of my colleagues for their help.
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[Translation]
NATURAL GAS RESOURCES
Mr. Paul Crête (Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup—Témiscouata—Les Basques,
BQ): Mr. Speaker, the Quebec and New Brunswick ministers of
natural resources recently agreed to begin negotiating without
delay an agreement to give their markets expanded access to the
Sable Island natural gas resources, thus creating conditions
favorable to the completion of a 550 kilometer gas
infrastructure.
This project will enable Quebec to ensure greater security of
supply and to enjoy major economic benefits.
When the federal government authorized the line toward New
England, it deprived Eastern Quebec and Northern New Brunswick
of a strong competitive advantage.
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[English]
TAXATION
Mr. Monte Solberg (Medicine Hat, Ref.): Mr. Speaker, we
have always known that money talks and high taxes make Canadians
walk, but now we have direct evidence that the low tax policies
of the Harris government in Ontario are contributing to national
unity, unlike the cupboard love, flag waving and neglect offered
by this tax and spend and then tax some more federal Liberal
government.
Even our friends in the Bloc, who are encouraged to live in
Quebec as a gesture of loyalty, are considering packing the
moving vans and heading across the river to Ottawa to take
advantage of Ontario's attractive low tax rates.
The lesson for the government is that cutting taxes would be an
obvious good start to building a strong and united Canada. If
low taxes will attract sovereignists to Ontario, when is the
government going to figure out that low federal taxes will keep
Quebecers in Canada?
The Harris government should be congratulated for its unwavering
commitment to lower taxes to stimulate Ontario's economy. It
goes to show that despite political and regional differences one
thing unites us all: low taxes.
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KUWAIT
Mr. Mac Harb (Ottawa Centre, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, Kuwait
is marking the new millennium in a special way. Recently the
Kuwait cabinet and Emir made a historic decision that gave women
the right to vote and run for office for the first time.
While Kuwait had many women in senior public and private sector
positions, they were not able to fully participate in the
democratic process.
On behalf of my colleagues in parliament and all Canadians, I
would like to congratulate Ambassador Majdi Al-Dhafiri, his
government and the people of Kuwait on this historic human rights
decision.
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HUMAN RIGHTS
Ms. Libby Davies (Vancouver East, NDP): Mr. Speaker,
today the Prime Minister is hosting Andres Pastrana, the
president of Colombia, while in that country massive atrocities
continue as its population is subjected to horrific human rights
violations, disappearances and murder.
If one is a labour leader or an activist, one's life is in
peril. If one does not agree with the establishment, one may
disappear. Even if one happens to be in the wrong place at the
wrong time, one is at risk.
The federal NDP stands in solidarity with the people of
Colombia, and we say to the Prime Minister and the Canadian
government “Stop the killing”. Tell Pastrana that the 2,700
trade unionists who have been killed since 1987 is unconscionable
and justice must be done.
The Canadian Council of Churches Tribunal and Amnesty
International have massive evidence of the brutality and murders.
Today the Canadian government, in meetings with the Colombian
president, must make it clear that under international law the
Government of Colombia must be held accountable.
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[Translation]
WORLD NO TOBACCO DAY
Mrs. Pauline Picard (Drummond, BQ): Mr. Speaker, today is World
No Tobacco Day.
While we must all delight at the passage of strong legislation
to counteract the ill effects of smoking, we must be able to
implement the laws we pass. On the weekend, Health Canada
acknowledged that it was having difficulty ensuring compliance
with its anti-smoking legislation, because of a lack of
inspectors. In Quebec, one corner store in two complies with the
law by refusing to sell cigarettes to minors.
At home, as in the rest of Canada, the job is not easy. While
the federal government is currently carrying out consultations
on the various options open to it on regulations concerning the
promotion of tobacco products, it must ensure that the measures
are realistic and that it can properly put them into effect.
Otherwise, the legislator's efforts to reduce the ill effects of
smoking will be for naught. They will be fruitless.
* * *
[English]
ANNAPOLIS COUNTY SENIORS SAFETY PROGRAM
Mr. Mark Muise (West Nova, PC): Mr. Speaker, over the past
three years Annapolis County senior citizens have experienced an
added sense of security as a result of a unique seniors safety
program that was introduced by the Bridgetown RCMP detachment.
Initially designed as a summer project to open the lines of
communication between seniors and the local RCMP, the program
quickly generated much public support. Many local communities
and business leaders, including the Annapolis West Health
Foundation and the Soldiers Memorial Hospital Foundation, were
instrumental in providing the necessary financial resources to
allow the program to operate on a full time basis.
Ms. Sharon Elliott, its energetic program co-ordinator, has
personally conducted in-home visits to over 1,700 seniors,
providing them with safety information on how to protect
themselves against criminal activity, as well as helpful hints on
medication storage.
As we salute the United Nations International Year of the Older
Person, let us recognize the heroic efforts of the Bridgetown
RCMP detachment.
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NATIONAL DRUG STRATEGY
Mr. Randy White (Langley—Abbotsford, Ref.): Mr. Speaker,
almost 1,000 people met in Abbotsford, British Columbia last
Thursday to discuss and express their concerns about hard drugs
in our society.
People across Canada agree that not enough is being done. The
government's national drug strategy does not work. It is not
working on the street.
I am asking all hon. members of the House to seriously consider
putting aside partisan politics to work on how we can best get
programs implemented at the local level.
We need more education on the bad effects of illicit drugs. We
need much improved rehabilitation initiatives. We need to
consider addiction as a serious health concern. We need to
seriously penalize non-addicted drug pushers. We need to clean
up our prison drug problem. We need to co-ordinate federal,
provincial and municipal programs. Most importantly, in the
House we need to work together on this program now.
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WATER QUALITY
Mr. Gordon Earle (Halifax West, NDP): Mr. Speaker, the
government continues to issue statements about multiculturalism
and racial equality. At the same time, a small, predominately
black community in my riding does not even have a safe and
healthy water supply.
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The families of Hammonds Plains do not have adequate water,
which is abominable in our country in this day and age. What
makes it even more striking is the fact that this community
borders the lake that supplies fresh water to Halifax and
Dartmouth.
The people are drinking from wells where the water has been
deemed to be unsafe and unsuitable. People have wells that run
dry in the summertime. Quite often they have to call upon the
local fire department to deliver water to them.
I trust that with new discussions about funding an
infrastructure program this government is fully committed to
ensuring it will do whatever is necessary to provide fresh water
to the residents of Hammonds Plains.
It comes down to a matter of priorities. I have been pursuing
this issue on the federal level. I have tried to seek whatever
funds might be available from any of the programs that the
federal government might have in the area of health, the
environment, heritage and so forth. However, to date I have been
unable to secure any meaningful funding from the federal
government to assist in this project going ahead. Where does the
government put its priorities?
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GOVERNMENT OF CANADA
Mr. Rick Borotsik (Brandon—Souris, PC): Mr. Speaker, the
Liberal government has been in government for six years and it
still cannot stop blaming all of its administrative failures on
the previous Progressive Conservative government.
Last week in the House the Minister of Finance tried to blame
the P.C. government for the current income gap between Canada and
the U.S. That would be like blaming a grade six teacher for
failing high school.
It is time the Minister of Finance and the federal government
took credit for the Liberal accomplishments over the last six
years. It is time to take credit for the Pearson airport fiasco,
which cost taxpayers $1 billion. It is time to take credit for
the EH-101 cancellation, which cost taxpayers $1 billion. It is
time to take credit for the highest personal income tax levels
among the G-7 countries. It is time to take credit for raising
taxes 40 times since 1994. It is time to take credit for gutting
$17 billion from the health care budget.
These are Liberal accomplishments over the past six years and it
is time they stood and took responsibility.
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[Translation]
SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH
Mr. Nick Discepola (Vaudreuil—Soulanges, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, last
week the Canadian government announced good news for the Quebec
City region, and the scientific world in particular. Laval
University will be heading up a Canadian photonics institute and
will receive $13 million in funding over the next three years
from the Canadian government.
This institute becomes the 15th centre of excellence to receive
funding from the federal government.
It will bring together 64 researchers from 22 universities
across the country, with Laval University co-ordinating
activities as head of the network.
This announcement highlights the region's importance in this
sector and is another example of how the Government of Canada is
helping Quebec's regions.
* * *
[English]
SUMMER EMPLOYMENT
Mr. Gurbax Singh Malhi (Bramalea—Gore—Malton—Springdale,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, earlier this month I attended the
openings of two human resource centres in Brampton and Malton.
In my riding the federal government is contributing $174,572
toward a summer job placement program to help create 101 local
summer jobs.
At least 50 local businesses and organizations are involved,
including one public sector and 10 non-profit organizations.
Private sector firms offering summer job placements include:
Allders International, Davroc Test Labs, Keyes Management, Par
Pak, Thomson Terminals, Sommerville Package and West Pro Sales.
I would encourage Canadians to hire some youthful energy this
summer by hiring a student.
* * *
[Translation]
STATISTICS CANADA
Mr. Pierre de Savoye (Portneuf, BQ): Mr. Speaker, during a
recent appearance before the Standing Committee on Industry, the
chief statistician, Ivan Fellegi, said that, when a certain
number of people say they are of an ethnic origin not on the
agency's list, that ethnic origin is then added.
But by caving in to the “Call me Canadian” political lobby and
listing Canadian as an ethnic origin, Statistics Canada has
sabotaged the usefulness of the ethnic origin question and
wasted taxpayers' money.
Many scientists, including the Association des démographes du
Québec, have asked the organization to go back to the 1991
census proposal.
Statistics Canada must put this right. Its reputation as a
scientific agency hangs in the balance. Otherwise, by turning the
census into a political operation, this federal agency will lose
its credibility.
ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
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KOSOVO
Mr. Preston Manning (Leader of the Opposition, Ref.): Mr.
Speaker, as we all know the tensions in Kosovo are growing every
week. Our allies are stepping up their commitments and
diplomatic initiatives are at a critical stage. At the same
time, the House will be recessing for the summer in a matter of
days.
What specific provisions will the Prime Minister make to ensure
that parliament is involved in any ongoing discussions or changes
to Canada's commitments in the former Yugoslavia?
Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, we have been discussing that in the House. Every day
the opposition has the opportunity to ask questions to the
government. We have had many debates on the situation in Kosovo
in the last 12 months. When we eventually adjourn, nothing will
be different.
The House of Commons has already indicated that it supports the
activities of NATO. We want President Milosevic to stop the
cleansing, the murdering and the raping. We want to make sure
that the Kosovars can go back to their homes in safety and
security where they belong.
Mr. Preston Manning (Leader of the Opposition, Ref.): Mr.
Speaker, to date the government has done little or nothing to
involve the House in developing Canada's commitments in
Yugoslavia.
Most members of the House get more information from television
and newspapers than they do from the government on this subject.
The government has yet to bring any votable motion at all before
the House on this issue.
What more does the government intend to do to involve parliament
in a substantive way during the summer recess with respect to
this issue?
Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, I can understand that the Leader of the Opposition is
not aware of what is going on in his party. We know that very
well.
The reality is that twice a week, every week, the members of all
parties in the House of Commons receive briefings and everybody
is welcome. I do not think that has ever been done before and I
am very proud of it.
I understand that the Leader of the Opposition has not been
informed by somebody in his own party.
Mr. Preston Manning (Leader of the Opposition, Ref.): Mr.
Speaker, this has gone far beyond the necessity of briefing.
The United States is threatening to send 90,000 troops to the
former Yugoslavia in a matter of weeks if no peace settlement is
reached. Britain is talking about increasing its commitment to
50,000 troops. It is increasingly likely that NATO will send in
ground troops in advance of any peace settlement and Canada is
expected to be part of that contingent.
Given that an invasion force could be put together within a few
weeks, why is the government not bringing forward a plan and a
motion to parliament on that issue now?
Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, there is no plan to send invasion troops. It has been
decided that the troops will be there to maintain security and
peace for the Kosovars when there is an agreement. That is why
some 800 Canadians are moving there.
We have not received any requests at this time for more troops.
At this moment there is no plan for the invasion of Kosovo by
anybody.
When the estimates come before the House of Commons on June 9
this question can be raised by the opposition in front of the
House.
* * *
GOVERNMENT GRANTS
Mr. Chuck Strahl (Fraser Valley, Ref.): Mr. Speaker, for
the last month the Prime Minister has been running from questions
about a $600,000 grant he announced in his own riding just prior
to the last election.
He ducked the question about how he could know about this grant
before bureaucrats had even seen a business plan for it. He
avoided answering questions by getting his human resources
minister to pretend that this happens all the time. However,
here are the facts: The Prime Minister announced the $600,000
grant on the eve of an election in his own riding before it had
proper governmental approval.
Why did the Prime Minister announce this grant three weeks
before the bureaucrats had even seen the business plan?
Ms. Bonnie Brown (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of
Human Resources Development, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, the
opposition persists in mixing up two proposals from the same
proponent to two different programs HRDC provides. They put
forward the proposal for the wage subsidy program which did not
require a business plan.
Our officials decided that the proposal being put forward fit
better with another program which did require a business plan.
Once it was provided that proposal was accepted.
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Mr. Chuck Strahl (Fraser Valley, Ref.): Mr. Speaker, it
is nice when they can get money from the government and they do
not even have a business plan.
The fact is that this jobs transition fund lends itself to
abuse. We have had a Liberal fundraiser indicted for influence
peddling under this program. We have had convicted criminals and
self-confessed embezzlers receive grant moneys. Now an
unregistered lobbyist with close ties to the Prime Minister is
being investigated by the RCMP for helping corporations in the
Prime Minister's own riding receive additional funds.
The Prime Minister only won his riding by 1,600 votes. Does he
think that announcing a grant before it was properly approved
helped him or hurt him in the last election campaign?
Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, the people of Saint-Maurice are very happy that the
member for Saint-Maurice is doing his job. The member for
Saint-Maurice has done exactly the same thing as members of the
Reform Party have done with the program in their own ridings. He
should ask his own members about it.
* * *
[Translation]
PUBLISHING INDUSTRY
Mr. Michel Gauthier (Roberval, BQ): Mr. Speaker, on Friday, in
reply to a question, the Minister of Canadian Heritage said in
this House that the Americans had made a written commitment not
to react to her subsidy program for Canadian publishers who, as
we know, are the big losers in the agreement reached regarding
Bill C-55.
My question is for the Minister of Canadian Heritage. How could
she make such a statement, considering that a spokesperson from
the Canadian Department for International Trade stressed that
the promise made by the Americans applies only to Bill C-55, and
not to the future subsidy program for Canadian publishers?
Hon. Sheila Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, the agreement signed by the Americans was part of the
WTO agreement signed ten years ago.
Mr. Michel Gauthier (Roberval, BQ): Mr. Speaker, this is a
rather obscure reply.
It is clear to everyone that the minister got herself into
trouble once again. Contrary to what the minister claimed here
on Friday, the Americans did not make any commitment regarding
the subsidy program. In the WTO context, there must not be
subsidy programs that benefit publishers from one area.
Did the Minister of Canadian Heritage not betray Canadian
publishers not once, but twice, by giving the Americans half of
the advertising market, in addition to having to share with them
the program that she claims to be setting up to help Canadian
publishers?
Hon. Sheila Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, the hon. member claims there are no WTO rules on
subsidy when in fact there is a whole chapter in the WTO
documents that were signed by the Americans ten years ago.
Mrs. Francine Lalonde (Mercier, BQ): Mr. Speaker, the Minister
of Canadian Heritage continues to say that the agreement with
the United States is an excellent cultural agreement, which
gives the Americans only 18% of the Canadian advertising market.
But we know that 18% of the space in American magazines
represents 50% of the market.
By allowing this breach with respect to culture, is Canada not
in fact distancing itself from the general position of a number
of countries, and of Quebec, which are calling for a broader
cultural exemption clause during the next WTO negotiations?
Hon. Sheila Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, the cultural policy adopted by the United States
following acceptance of Bill C-55 is an admission for the first
time in that country's history that we do in fact have the right
to treat culture differently.
This must be part of an overall strategy such as we are now
implementing with France and other countries, which also think
that culture should be accorded special treatment.
Mrs. Francine Lalonde (Mercier, BQ): Mr. Speaker, speechifying
aside, what credibility will Canada have in Seattle in defending
the idea of a general cultural exemption clause, such as Quebec
is calling for, when in reality it has just negotiated an
important breach in the publishing industry with the United
States?
Hon. Sheila Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, I think the member has it wrong.
Under WTO rulings, there was no protection for Canadian
magazines. Now, with Bill C-55, which I hope will soon be passed
in the House, 82% of the Canadian magazine market will be
protected.
Why? For one thing, because for the first time in their
history, the Americans have agreed that culture is not the same
as other sectors. It is this admission that will set the stage
for a good discussion in Seattle at the WTO.
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[English]
THE ENVIRONMENT
Mr. Bill Blaikie (Winnipeg—Transcona, NDP): Mr. Speaker,
my question is for the Prime Minister.
A generation from now Canadians will tell the story of this day
in parliament as a time when we had the opportunity to reverse
years of wrong-headed thinking on the environment corrupted by
industrial self-interest, et cetera.
Will the Prime Minister be the villain or the hero in this story
today? Will he make this day a day of new beginnings for the
environment, or will it be the same old story? Will the Prime
Minister commit his party and his caucus to the idea of a total
phase-out of persistent toxins and reject the amendments that
have been brought forward that reject the work of the committee
which called for phase-out?
Hon. Christine Stewart (Minister of the Environment,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, today is the first day of environment
week and the government is very proud of the activities that it
will be engaged in to encourage every Canadian across the country
to consider how they can contribute to a cleaner environment.
The government, through our renewed CEPA legislation, will be
able to act very proactively to assure Canadians cleaner air and
cleaner water, something that is very important to our
environment and human health.
Mr. Bill Blaikie (Winnipeg—Transcona, NDP): Mr. Speaker,
all the more shameful that this should happen on the first day of
environment week.
I plead with the Prime Minister. The Minister of the Environment
has broken every promise the Prime Minister ever made in the red
book with respect to the phase-out of persistent toxins. It is
up to the Prime Minister to save the day, not just for himself or
the government but for future generations, and reinstate the idea
of total phase-out of persistent toxins. Will he do that?
Hon. Christine Stewart (Minister of the Environment,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, the new Canadian environmental protection
legislation is extremely important. It will compel the federal
government to analyze 23,000 substances now in use across our
country.
The principle of pollution prevention is a very important key to
this legislation. For those substances most toxic, the principle
of virtual elimination will prevail.
Mr. John Herron (Fundy—Royal, PC): Mr. Speaker, the
Liberal government's way of celebrating environment week is by
invoking time allocation on report stage of amendments for the
Canadian Environmental Protection Act.
This is a government that has very few MPs advocating sound
environmental policies, and when they do they are band from taking
action. The member for Lac-Saint-Louis, an advocate for strong
environmental policies, was denied the right to vote during the
committee review of the CEPA by his own government colleagues.
My question is for the Minister of Environment. When can
Canadians expect her to end her policy of political doublespeak
and demonstrate real leadership on the environmental agenda?
Hon. Christine Stewart (Minister of the Environment,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased that we are having this
important debate on environmental protection legislation in the
House. Canadians have been waiting for over a year of debate in
the House to see renewed environmental protection legislation.
The legislation that we will be voting on tonight represents
legislation that is a significant improvement over what we have
today.
Mr. John Herron (Fundy—Royal, PC): Mr. Speaker, my
supplementary is for the Prime Minister.
In the words of the Commissioner for the Environment, the
government's lack of concern for the environment means
“Canadians are paying the price in terms of our health and our
legacy to future generations”.
What is missing is real leadership and real management. The
government has had three environment ministers and six years to
pass an environmental bill and Canadians have nothing to show for
it.
When will the Prime Minister recognize that when it comes to
the environment and human health this is one case where a below
par record on the green is not acceptable?
Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, that is what we are doing. There will be no more
talking. We will be voting today on a piece of legislation that
has been negotiated with the provinces and debated in committee.
It contains 240 amendments.
For those who have said that we have not spent time studying
this problem means that they were not in the committees when it
was needed.
* * *
TRANSITIONAL JOBS FUND
Mrs. Diane Ablonczy (Calgary—Nose Hill, Ref.): Mr. Speaker,
the transitional jobs fund has been quite a windfall for the
Liberals.
During the last election it was used to get campaign donations
for the Liberal Party. It then allowed the Prime Minister to
give megabucks to his former business partner, a self-confessed
embezzler of $1 million. Now we have a Liberal crony,
representing the Prime Minister at official functions, who has
access to the fund. He can now get even more dollars for
projects in the Prime Minister's riding.
Will the Prime Minister explain just how this represents doing a
good job in his riding?
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Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr. Speaker,
the member stated that a grant was given to a former business
associate of mine and it is not true.
There was absolutely not a dollar given to any of my former
businesses. The member should withdraw that because it is not
true.
Mrs. Diane Ablonczy (Calgary—Nose Hill, Ref.): Mr.
Speaker, is it not interesting that the Prime Minister zeros in
on a small point and neglects to mention that this individual
bought his money losing hotel and that the Prime Minister's
numbered company has its registered office at this business
partner's hotel? That is a small point the Prime Minister forgot
to mention.
I ask the Prime Minister to explain to the Canadian people, who
ante up the money that the Prime Minister is spreading around in
such an unusual fashion, how this is justified.
Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, the riding of Saint-Maurice is entitled to the same
programs that benefit the member for Dauphin—Swan River, the
member for Kootenay—Columbia, the member for Nanaimo—Alberni,
the member for Prince George—Bulkley Valley, and the member for
Okanagan—Shuswap.
The member keeps making affirmations that are not factual, but I
know she does not have the decency of a normal member of
parliament to admit when she is wrong.
* * *
[Translation]
PUBLISHING INDUSTRY
Mr. Benoît Sauvageau (Repentigny, BQ): Mr. Speaker, last week a
senior American official stated that the United States could go
to the WTO if American publishers were denied access to the
Canadian subsidy program. This was confirmed on Friday by a
spokesperson for the Department of International Trade.
Does the Minister of International Trade confirm that a subsidy
program reserved exclusively for Canadian publishers could
infringe upon Canada's international commitments under what is
called the national treatment principle?
[English]
Hon. Sergio Marchi (Minister for International Trade,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, we have always said that Bill C-55 was
founded on the services level where we do not have the clause for
national treatment to impose on services as opposed to goods.
Also there is a great deal of difference between countries
around the world offering assistance or subsidies to domestic
industries as long as those products are not for export.
[Translation]
Mr. Benoît Sauvageau (Repentigny, BQ): Mr. Speaker, we have no
commitment from the American government on the future subsidy
program. We know such a program would be likely to infringe upon
our international commitments regardless of what the minister
says.
Is the cultural agreement of the century, of which the Minister
of Canadian Heritage is so proud, not rather the first serious
breach in the position of general cultural exemption which the
government has always defended in international trade
negotiations?
[English]
Hon. Sergio Marchi (Minister for International Trade,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Canadian Heritage said
moments ago that there was no cultural exemption at the WTO.
That is why we were taken to the panel in the first place.
There was an abdication of rules and that is precisely what the
Minister of Canadian Heritage was saying. We got an historic
agreement, one that caps their advertising from 100% to 18%, one
that for the first time gives us content, and one that encourages
additional investment in the publishing industry in Canada. I
think by any measure that is a pretty good deal.
* * *
GOVERNMENT GRANTS
Mr. Monte Solberg (Medicine Hat, Ref.): Mr. Speaker,
there is no question the Prime Minister is the king of patronage
and there is no question that he excels at the art of pork barrel
politics. However, when the Prime Minister gave an associate
$600,000 of taxpayers money prior to the last federal election,
he took it to a whole new level.
How can the Prime Minister deny that by doing what he did before
the last election he made a blatant attempt to buy votes with
taxpayers money?
The Speaker: We must not impute motive in any way. I see
the Prime Minister is on his feet. I would rule the question out
of order, but if he wants to answer it he may.
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Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, they still use the words that are not reality. I have
never been associated with anybody and the famous hotel. It was
bought for cash. It was a lease that the buyer bought before I
became Prime Minister, and he paid cash. The lease was for $1
and he found the money to pay for it.
Mr. Monte Solberg (Medicine Hat, Ref.): Mr. Speaker, the
facts speak for themselves. The Prime Minister has sullied his
office through this dirty deal. There is a huge difference
between—
The Speaker: Order, please. I want the hon. member to go
directly to his question.
Mr. Monte Solberg: Mr. Speaker, when will the Prime
Minister find the courage to demand that Thibault pay back that
money?
Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, this is a great success. Not only have jobs been
created but the person has expanded his project. It was in an
area where we have the highest level of unemployment in Canada.
If there is something I should complain about, it is that my own
area is among the areas with the highest unemployment in Canada.
I will keep fighting and working for them.
* * *
[Translation]
CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre, BQ): Mr. Speaker,
in response to a question in this House on Friday, the Minister
of Canadian Heritage confirmed that, as far as she was
concerned, quality television had nothing to do with advertising
revenues, thus suggesting that the CBC could well do without
some of the separate revenues generated through advertising.
Are we to understand from the minister's position that, in her
opinion, to have quality programming television must be fully
subsidized by the government?
Hon. Sheila Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, what the Bloc Quebecois suggested last week was that we
ignore the CRTC's policy. We said in this House is that we
respect regulatory agencies and that we want the CRTC to do its
job.
If we were to act like Quebec did with Télé-Québec, we would no
longer have television.
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre, BQ): Mr. Speaker,
if the Minister of Canadian Heritage suddenly wants a fully
subsidized state television, is it not proof that she is only
interested in having full control over the CBC, and that her
motto is “Canada my country, the CBC my tool”?
Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr. Speaker,
these are crocodile tears, especially in light of what the
Quebec government did to Télé-Québec. There is nothing left at
Télé-Québec.
* * *
[English]
CORRECTIONAL SERVICE CANADA
Mr. Randy White (Langley—Abbotsford, Ref.): Mr. Speaker,
according to access to information requests, over 1,300 federal
prisoners use crack or cocaine while in prison, virtually every
day. Another 1,300 while in prison every day use heroin and
another 5,400 use marijuana on a daily basis.
The government purports to have a zero tolerance policy for
drugs in prison. I ask the solicitor general why it is that
drugs are just as easy to get inside prison as they are outside.
Hon. Lawrence MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, drugs and addiction are major problems in
the country. Seven out of ten people are in our federal
penitentiaries as a result of being involved with drugs and
alcohol.
I assure my hon. colleague that I make it a major priority to
address the drug and alcohol problems in our field institutions.
Mr. Randy White (Langley—Abbotsford, Ref.): Mr.
Speaker, is it the same priority he gave to bus passes, golf, and
all the other things he has given?
Of the prisoners in the Pacific region where I live, 46% use
drugs while in prison. The Liberals say they have a national
drug strategy that works, but it does not work on the streets or
in prisons of Canada.
If 46% of prisoners use drugs while in prison, is this zero
tolerance policy not a bit of a bad joke over there?
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Hon. Lawrence MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, as I indicated to my hon. colleague, I am
well aware that drugs and alcohol are major problems for our
prisoner population. As I indicated I intend to address these
problems.
* * *
[Translation]
TAINTED BLOOD
Mr. Yvan Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe—Bagot, BQ): Mr. Speaker, the
Prime Minister's ethics counsellor has been consulted about the
conduct of the Minister of Finance with respect to the tainted
blood issue in order to determine whether the minister placed
himself in a conflict of interest situation.
My question is for the Prime Minister. Will he agree to release
the full text of this report, as soon as his office receives it,
so that MPs can examine it?
Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I
see no problem with the counsellor forwarding me his report. In
fact, the Minister of Finance himself requested an investigation
into whether there had been a conflict of interest. I am
certain that there was not, and we will gladly release the
counsellor's remarks.
* * *
[English]
THE ENVIRONMENT
Mr. John Harvard (Charleswood St. James—Assiniboia, Lib.):
Mr. Speaker, as noted earlier in question period, today is the
first day of environment week. We all know that smog and air
pollutants are a big problem, especially on hot days like today.
Could the Minister of the Environment tell the House what new
measures she is proposing to make sure Canadians breathe clean
air?
Hon. Christine Stewart (Minister of the Environment,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, on the first day of environment week I am
very pleased to announce that I am instituting gasoline flow rate
regulations which will prevent 1,500 tonnes of volatile organic
compounds and 15 tonnes of benzene, a known carcinogen and toxic
substance, going into the air, at a saving of $1 million to
Canadians.
As well, on Wednesday of this week we will celebrate the first
Clean Air Day Canada. I challenge everyone in the Chamber and
across Canada to consider how they can contribute to cleaner air
not only that day but every day.
* * *
PUBLISHING INDUSTRY
Mr. Inky Mark (Dauphin—Swan River, Ref.): Mr. Speaker,
every time the heritage minister opens her mouth, she sucks more
tax money from the taxpayers of Canada. Reports estimate that
her new magazine deal will cost taxpayers at least $100 million.
My question for the heritage minister is the same one she
refuses to answer. How much will the taxpayers be forking over
in subsidies and tax breaks to pay for this new deal?
Hon. Sheila Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage, Lib.):
Mr. Speaker, the hon. member has to understand one thing I think
the Reform Party does not understand. In a country like Canada
there is a strong belief that we have two founding peoples, two
official languages, and literally hundreds of Canadians of many
cultures.
What we want to do is to reinforce those cultures through the
federal government, and that is one of the things we have been
doing.
They propose that we abolish the Canadian heritage department.
which would kill the links that help build this country and make
it stronger.
Mr. Inky Mark (Dauphin—Swan River, Ref.): Mr. Speaker,
I understand what culture is about, but I did not ask the
minister a question about culture. I asked her a question about
money, tax money.
I am sure we in the House all believe Canadians deserve to know
how much of their money the heritage minister has blown this
time. I ask her again. How much will the magazine deal cost
taxpayers of the country?
Hon. Sheila Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage, Lib.):
Mr. Speaker, the member talks about blowing money. Let us look
at one area that has been a growth area for the Canadian people,
the Canada television fund. In the last two years the Canada
television fund has generated $1.2 billion worth of television
investment in the country, 2,000 hours of new television
programming, and at the moment 20,000 jobs and counting.
That is an investment in Canada, in culture, and in getting our
message out from coast to coast to coast.
* * *
THE ENVIRONMENT
Ms. Louise Hardy (Yukon, NDP): Mr. Speaker, while the
Arctic contaminants report has highlighted the terrible effects
of persistent organic pollutants on people and animals in the
north, the government cancelled environmental research projects
for the Arctic. At the same time the minister is proposing to
amend the Canadian Environmental Protection Act to curtail and in
effect limit her own power to act on behalf of the environment
and Canadians.
Under these circumstances could the minister please explain how
she intends to clean up and protect the northern environment?
Hon. Christine Stewart (Minister of the Environment,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, the government took a very important
initiative last year in signing and in being the first country in
the world to ratify a UN-ECE convention and protocol on the
transport and the transboundary transport of toxic substances.
This is very important.
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On Friday I announced $62 million to clean up a contaminated
site in Sydney. We are committed to cleaning up contaminated
sites across this country. There will be further announcements.
Today I am bringing in gasoline flow rate regulations which will
keep toxics out of the air at every service station across the
country.
This government is taking significant steps to—
The Speaker: The hon. member for Churchill River.
Mr. Rick Laliberte (Churchill River, NDP): Mr. Speaker,
my question is for the Prime Minister.
When it comes to the environment, this Liberal government is all
talk and no action. The environment commissioner last week
agreed by titling his report “The Gap between Talk and Action”.
Bill C-32 is for pollution prevention. Canadians want the
phase-out of the worst toxics in the country, but this government
is for virtual elimination. This does not stop pollution. Will
the Prime Minister stand up and stop pollution before he is
considered the virtual Prime Minister?
Hon. Christine Stewart (Minister of the Environment,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, the government is very proud of its
proposed new CEPA legislation. It is legislation based on a
pollution prevention principle. It is legislation that will
address the most toxic substances with virtual elimination, the
only country in the world that has taken the step of virtual
elimination, an internationally recognized principle.
This is legislation that will help the environment and the human
health of all Canadians. I hope that we will see very quick
passage and promulgation of the legislation.
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GUN CONTROL
Mr. Peter MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough, PC):
Mr. Speaker, according to the government's own figures at the end
of May, the total number of firearms registered in the Canadian
firearms registry system is now 50,000. The total number of
those registered to individuals is only 7,000 for 5,000 people.
The laughable Liberal November estimates that the gun
registration costs are $133.9 million means that this public
relations exercise to date has cost a whopping $26,000 per person
or $19,000 per gun. At this rate it will take over 400 years to
register all the firearms in Canada.
When will the minister end the madness, display some common
sense and cancel this ridiculous registration?
Hon. Anne McLellan (Minister of Justice and Attorney General
of Canada, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I find it very interesting
that there are only a few people, obviously the hon. member is
included, who think that our firearms control program is
nonsense.
Over 80% of the people who live in Canada support gun control.
In addition to that, they support gun registration.
I would hope that these people in light of some of the tragic
events that have happened recently in this country and elsewhere
would get behind gun control and responsible gun owners.
Mr. Peter MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough, PC):
Mr. Speaker, some of these people are voters. To date, the
government's failure to provide efficient and timely gun
legislation has forced over 5,000 businesses to close. This
complicated and cumbersome bill discriminates against law-abiding
owners and does nothing to stop real criminals. The Law-Abiding
Unregistered Firearms Association has stated its members will go
to jail rather than comply.
How much money must be spent and how many law-abiding citizens
must go to jail before the minister's unworkable, insanely costly
registration plan is scrapped?
Hon. Anne McLellan (Minister of Justice and Attorney General
of Canada, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, let me share with the hon.
member some statistics that were provided recently to me by the
registration program. In the first six months of operation 275
applicants were refused licences for public safety reasons. We
have revoked 191 other licences for public safety reasons. Of
13,000 checks conducted as a result of sales, more than 10% were
rejected for failing background checks. That is more than 1,300
potentially dangerous gun sales blocked to date.
That is what safety is about. That is what developing a culture
of safety and responsibility is about. I would ask—
The Speaker: I remind hon. members not to use papers as
props. The hon. member for Lanark—Carleton.
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SHIPBUILDING INDUSTRY
Mr. Ian Murray (Lanark—Carleton, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, my
question is for the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of
Industry.
On May 3 the member for Nanaimo—Alberni raised concerns in the
House about the shipbuilding industry.
He accused the minister of selling taxpayer funded technology to
another country and claimed the government was exporting Canadian
jobs. Has the parliamentary secretary had the opportunity to
look into that allegation and can he inform the House of the
results?
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Mr. Walt Lastewka (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of
Industry, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Industry
indicated at that time he would look into the matter for the
member for Nanaimo—Alberni. I am pleased to inform the member
that Canadian jobs are not being exported and the Department of
National Defence, the owner of the technology, has no intention
of selling it. The country in question, Australia, was
inspecting a shipbuilding site in B.C. and reviewing the DND
technology. Hopefully the review will lead to Canadian
contracts. The accusations were totally false.
I congratulate the member for Nanaimo—Alberni for the good work
the company in question has done. I hope we can work with them to
support possible future contracts for our technology and for our
country.
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AGRICULTURE
Mr. Roy Bailey (Souris—Moose Mountain, Ref.): Mr. Speaker,
my question is for the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food.
In touring the southeastern portion of my constituency, one will
find 50% of the cultivated land under water and another 25% of
the land that was prepared for this year's seeding too saturated.
The total area is greater than the entire acreage of Prince
Edward Island.
Will the minister tour this area and meet with the farmers and
the local governments that are facing a huge financial crisis?
Hon. Lyle Vanclief (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I am aware of the unfortunate situation
for a number of farmers in that area, an area of the country that
is usually very dry at this time of year. I have had discussions
as have my officials with the officials of both the provinces of
Saskatchewan and Alberta. We are suggesting the first thing
farmers need to do is participate in the crop insurance program
to the fullest extent they possibly can. We will look at ways in
which we can use AIDA to assist them as well.
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[Translation]
NATIONAL DEFENCE
Mr. Claude Bachand (Saint-Jean, BQ): Mr. Speaker, my question is
for the Minister of National Defence.
There are apparently plans for an enhanced leadership and
initial development model program for officers that would provide
common training for all Canadian forces officers in the future.
Can the Minister of National Defence tell us whether such a
program is indeed in the works and whether the government is
getting ready not to renew the lease with the Fort Saint-Jean
campus in order to resume full possession of the royal military
college facilities in Saint-Jean?
[English]
Hon. Arthur C. Eggleton (Minister of National Defence,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, we are developing an enhanced leadership
model program because we want to make sure that the Canadian
forces of the future have the most effective leadership possible.
We want to make sure that ethics and Canadian values and all of
the things that are important for Canadians to have in military
leadership are part of the development of our future leaders.
As it turns out, one of the facilities that is being looked at
is the facility in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu. We have made no
decision with respect to the final aspects of the program or to
the facility that it will be operating.
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[Translation]
NATURAL RESOURCES
Mr. Yvon Godin (Acadie—Bathurst, NDP): Mr. Speaker, in
advertising on natural gas in this month's Atlantic Progress,
the Minister of Natural Resources said, and I quote:
The many investments will mean a good job for the people in the
Atlantic provinces, and especially for young people, without
having to leave their region.
Will the Minister of Natural Resources include the northeast in
the construction of the pipeline in New Brunswick and the
environment as well, yes or no?
[English]
Hon. Ralph E. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources and
Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, the development of oil and gas resources off our east
coast is a very welcome phenomenon that I think all Canadians
celebrate as we see these new resources coming onstream. They
provide many new business and job opportunities for Atlantic
Canadians.
In terms of the construction of lateral pipelines, that is
something that needs to be conducted on a commercial basis. Where
the market exists for the gas to service a particular region or a
particular commercial enterprise, then obviously the laterals
will be constructed on a businesslike basis.
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AGRICULTURE
Mr. Rick Borotsik (Brandon—Souris, PC): Mr. Speaker, I would
like to thank the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food for
taking a proactive approach with respect to the natural disaster
that is taking place in Manitoba and Saskatchewan.
I would like to ask the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food
for those people who will not be able to comply with crop
insurance, what contingency plan is in place now? What message
can we send to those people who will not put a crop in this year?
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Hon. Lyle Vanclief (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, before I answer the question, I referred
a minute ago to the fact that I have had discussions with Alberta
and Saskatchewan. I erred. It is Saskatchewan and Manitoba that
are having the problems with wet conditions.
I did have a very good discussion at the end of last week with
the minister in the province of Manitoba. As I said last week
and again just a minute ago, if crop insurance does not do all
that it possibly can for the producers, then we are looking at
ways in which we can maybe use the agriculture income disaster
assistance program to be of assistance in this situation as well.
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TRADE AND TOURISM
Mr. Carmen Provenzano (Sault Ste. Marie, Lib.): Mr. Speaker,
the Minister of National Revenue recently met with U.S. cabinet
officials and senators to discuss removing barriers to trade and
tourism. Will the minister inform the House as to the results of
his efforts to expedite the movement of goods and services across
our border?
Hon. Harbance Singh Dhaliwal (Minister of National Revenue,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I am very happy to report to the House
that two weeks ago I went to Washington and had the opportunity
to meet administrative officials and also talk to the business
industry about how we can move the shared border accord forward.
By looking at a new vision for the border, we have decided to
get our officials together to see how we can expedite the
movement of goods and people across our borders and move the
shared border accord, which the President and the Prime Minister
signed a few years ago. We have an excellent working
relationship and we are certainly going to move this agenda
forward.
I want to thank the hon. member for his support on this issue.
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AGRICULTURE
Mr. Roy Bailey (Souris—Moose Mountain, Ref.): Mr. Speaker, I
have another question for the Minister of Agriculture and
Agri-Food.
A Saskatchewan Liberal senator has described this Liberal
government's AIDA package as nothing but a disgrace as far as
western Canada is concerned.
At this time, would the minister not come out west to see this
area and then make the declaration that this is a disaster area
and that the funds that go to support the farmers and the local
governments for the collateral damage be two separate packages?
Will he make that commitment now?
Hon. Lyle Vanclief (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food,
Lib.): Mr. Speaker, as I commented in the House last week,
the manner in which the senator from the other place refers to
Saskatchewan farmers is the one way he may want to describe them.
I do not. I respect Saskatchewan farmers.
As I said, we will use all the programs we have available at
this time to come to the aid of the producers in the unfortunate
situation they are in. We will continue to work with them. We
will continue to work with my provincial counterparts to work
through this unfortunate situation.
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[Translation]
MONEY LAUNDERING
Mr. Richard Marceau (Charlesbourg, BQ): Mr. Speaker, last week,
I asked the solicitor general whether he supported my bill to
withdraw $1,000 bills from circulation in the fight against
money laundering. By way of response, I got procedural ramblings
from the government leader.
We now know that the government will table its own bill to
intensify its fight against money laundering.
My question is very simple: Will the bill include the withdrawal
of the $1,000 bill? If not, why not? I hope this time the answer
will be more intelligent.
Hon. Don Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of
Commons, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, to comment on the intelligence of
the question, we should look and see whether a member or a
minister can comment on a bill that has yet to be tabled in the
House.
The member may speak of procedural ramblings all he likes, but I
think it is time that he learned a few things.
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[English]
PAY EQUITY
Ms. Bev Desjarlais (Churchill, NDP): Mr. Speaker, my question
is for the Minister of Justice.
Today public servants began a vigil on the steps of the Supreme
Court of Canada. Their vigil is for pay equity.
The Liberal government has perverted the Canadian justice
system. It has no case against pay equity. It is using the
appeal process as a stalling tactic. The whole mess is a waste
of taxpayers' money and a travesty of justice. The only people
who win are the lawyers.
I want to ask the Minister of Justice, as a lawyer and as a
woman, does she agree with the Liberal government's policy of
using the courts as a weapon to evade the law and deny equality
to Canadians?
The Speaker: Of course, we always address hon. members as
such, and not as a woman or anything else.
Hon. Marcel Massé (President of the Treasury Board and
Minister responsible for Infrastructure, Lib.): Mr. Speaker,
unfortunately I think that the opposition has not yet listened
correctly.
This government, the Liberal government, is one that not only
supports pay equity, but it is a Liberal government that passed
the law. In fact in the implementation of pay equity, we have
paid over $1.1 billion over the last 15 years.
I still have an offer on the table to settle the case for $1.3
billion. Why would the government not give equity to both our
employees and the taxpayers?
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WINDSOR—ST. CLAIR
The Speaker: I have the honour to lay upon the table the
report of the Chief Electoral Officer of Canada on the
administration of the Windsor—St. Clair byelection held on April
12, 1999.
[Translation]
This document is deemed to have been permanently referred to the
Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.
ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
[Translation]
GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO PETITIONS
Mr. Peter Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to Leader of the
Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, pursuant
to Standing Order 36(8), I have the honour to table, in both
official languages, the government's response to 8 petitions.
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[English]
COMMITTEES OF THE HOUSE
INDUSTRY
Ms. Susan Whelan (Essex, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, it is
through the co-operation of all parties and the depth of the
knowledge of all members in understanding both the problem and
the different routes for solving the year 2000 computer issues
that today I have the honour to present, in both official
languages, the 18th report of the Standing Committee on Industry
entitled “The Year 2000 Problem—Will Canada be Ready?”
TRANSPORT
Mr. Raymond Bonin (Nickel Belt, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I
have the honour to present, in both official languages, the sixth
report of the Standing Committee on Transport with respect to
Bill S-23, an act to amend the Carriage by Air Act.
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PROCEEDS OF CRIME (MONEY LAUNDERING) ACT
Hon. Jim Peterson (for the Minister of Finance, Lib.) moved
for leave to introduce Bill C-81, an act to facilitate combatting
the laundering of proceeds of crime, to establish the Financial
Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada and to amend
or repeal certain acts in consequence.
(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and
printed)
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PETITIONS
FIREARMS
Mr. Jim Gouk (Kootenay—Boundary—Okanagan, Ref.): Mr.
Speaker, I have two petitions to present today. The first
petition concerns the Firearms Act.
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The petitioners point out that this legislation does not provide
any evidence as to how it will save lives and that the money
which is being used could be better spent on better law
enforcement, health care or any one of a number of other
important issues.
These petitioners call upon parliament to repeal the act
respecting firearms and other weapons.
YOUNG OFFENDERS ACT
Mr. Jim Gouk (Kootenay—Boundary—Okanagan, Ref.): Mr.
Speaker, the second petition is from constituents in my riding
who are concerned about violent young offenders.
The petitioners feel that the Young Offenders Act should be
amended to hold young people fully accountable for their criminal
behaviour and to increase periods of incarceration to deter young
people from committing these criminal acts.
The petitioners look for a number of amendments, of which the
government is well aware, to strengthen the act and thus reduce
the incidence of youth crime for the protection of all Canadians,
young and otherwise.
[Translation]
HOUSING IN NUNAVIK
Mr. Guy St-Julien (Abitibi—Baie-James—Nunavik, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, I table a petition from the Inuit community of Tasiujaq,
in Nunavik.
The petitioners say that in winter from 16 to 20 people may
share the same three-bedroom house. They find the housing
conditions in Nunavik extremely troubling. The situation is
considered intolerable; it contributes to the high incidence of
tuberculosis, infectious diseases and social problems.
The federal government must meet its obligations under the James
Bay and Northern Quebec Agreement on housing in Nunavik.
ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE
Ms. Diane St-Jacques (Shefford, PC): Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to
table a petition signed by many of my constituents.
The petitioners urge parliament to keep open the RCMP detachment
in Granby, and assign enough staff to protect our homes and our
rights.
[English]
HEPATITIS
Mr. Peter Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern
Shore, NDP): Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 36, it
gives me great pleasure, on behalf of Mr. Fred Wornell of
Edmonton, Alberta, to present a petition.
The petitioners are from Edmonton, Alberta and Kapuskasing,
Ontario. This will be the start of many hundreds of thousands
and millions of signatures to come to this parliament concerning
this issue.
The petitioners call upon parliament to support Bill C-508,
which happens to be my bill, an act to provide for Hepatitis
Awareness Month, ensuring that throughout Canada in each and
every year the month of May shall be known as Hepatitis Awareness
Month.
GOVERNMENT GRANTS
Mr. Leon E. Benoit (Lakeland, Ref.): Mr. Speaker, I am
happy to present a petition on behalf of the constituency of
Lakeland requesting that public funds being designated as grants
to individuals or groups be more carefully scrutinized. The
petitioners refer particularly to the $98,000 granted to the
Montreal publisher Edimag for the 500 best dumb blonde jokes. My
constituents do not feel that this is an appropriate use of
taxpayers' money and they ask that the government withdraw this
grant and disallow similar grants in the future.
GOVERNMENT REGULATION
Mr. Paul Steckle (Huron—Bruce, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I have
before me this afternoon two petitions.
The first one deals with a matter which is very important to a
number of my constituents. These petitioners do not want
government nor the drug industry to regulate herbs and teas. They
believe that, once regulated, they will become cost prohibitive.
They also believe that their freedom of choice will be impeded.
They are implicitly asking the government to give back the
freedom of choice they believe they are losing through
legislative control.
FIREARMS
Mr. Paul Steckle (Huron—Bruce, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, the
second petition deals with firearms control.
These petitioners request parliament to repeal Bill C-68 and
redirect the hundreds of millions of tax dollars being wasted on
the licensing of responsible firearms owners and the registration
of legally owned guns by doing something proven to be more cost
effective at reducing violent crime and improving public safety,
such as more police on the streets, more crime prevention
programs, more suicide prevention centres, more women's crisis
centres, more anti-smuggling campaigns and more resources for
fighting organized crime and street gangs.
TAXATION
Mr. Ken Epp (Elk Island, Ref.): Mr. Speaker, I am pleased
on behalf of the members of my Elk Island riding to rise once
again to present a petition.
The petitioners are very concerned that families who decide that
one of the parents will stay at home to raise their children
instead of hiring someone else to do it should have tax
discrimination. They are asking that this be rescinded.
This petition will add 87 signatures to the many hundreds I have
already presented in this House.
ABORIGINAL AFFAIRS
Ms. Bev Desjarlais (Churchill, NDP): Mr. Speaker, pursuant to
Standing Order, 36 I am presenting a number of petitions from
urban aboriginals in Ontario who are calling on the government to
stop its downloading of aboriginal housing.
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The petitioners call upon the Government of Canada to
acknowledge and to follow through on its fiduciary responsibility
to aboriginal people off reserve, and they state that they should
not be suffering the hardship that is being caused by the Liberal
government.
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[Translation]
QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER
Mr. Peter Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to Leader of the
Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, the
following questions will be answered today: Nos. 193 and 232.
.[Text]
Question No. 193—Mr. Jim Jones:
For the 1997-98 fiscal year what were (i) the eligibility
requirements, (ii) the repayment obligations, (iii) the average
contribution made in the ridings of Markham, Saint John, Calgary
Southwest, Halifax, Laurier—Sainte-Marie, Saint-Maurice, Ottawa
South and Lasalle—Émard, (iv) the average contribution made in
the provinces of Quebec, Ontario, Alberta, Nova Scotia and New
Brunswick; and (v) the average contribution made nationwide, for
each of the following business Development Bank of Canada
initiatives: (a) techno-net, e-commerce term loans; (b)
micro Business program; (c) patient capital; (d) term loans;
(e) venture loans; (f) working capital for growth; (g)
working capital for exporters; (h) tourism investment
fund-development capital for tourism; (i) young entrepreneur
financing program; and (j) growth capital for aboriginal
business?
Mr. Walt Lastewka (Parlimentary Secretary to Minister of
Industry, Lib.): (i) The Business Development Bank of Canada,
BDC, provides commercial financing to small businesses. Requests
for financing are examined based on established commercial credit
criteria. As a term lender and provider of venture capital the
bank assesses not only the project but also the long term
viability of the business. The Bank carefully assesses the
viability of the project by reviewing the management, the
potential profitability, shareholder's investment and available
security. The instruments and/or policies used to scrutinize the
information submitted by applicants for financial assistance as
to its accuracy are described as follows.
The bank has a comprehensive due dilligence process in place to
assess eligibilty, environment, credit worthiness and viability
of the project, proposal or business. This includes verification
requirements with the applicant's principal chartered bank, any
other financial institution and/or government agencies dealing
with the applicant, principal suppliers and clients, chartered
accountants and various credit associations to verify
information. In some cases external industry specialist
assistance is obtained.
(1) It is mandatory to obtain credit bureau reports. Dun &
Bradstreet reports are requested depending on size and complexity
of the operation.
(2) It is mandatory to obtain chartered bank-credit union
reports on every applicant at time of initial inquiry. It is also
a requirement to contact any other lenders, including leasing,
to obtain experience information and confirmation.
(3) It is mandatory to complete a management assessment and
market evaluation through a series of questions and outside
verifications with commercial lenders, trade suppliers and
industry experts.
(4) It is mandatory to undertake a complete financial analysis,
both horizontal and vertical, supported by discussions with the
applicants accountant-auditor. The bank emphasizes requirements
for audited financial data. However review engagements are
acceptable for smaller less complex proposals.
(5) It is mandatory to assess the environmental conditions of
the grounds and facilities.
(6) All pertinent information is entered into a risk grid and
compared to industry norms to determine the overall level of
risk.
In addition, a second level approval process is in place for
larger applications that includes a thorough review of all
supporting information gathered by the processing office in the
due diligence process. This is similar to processes conducted by
other commercial lending institutions in North America.
(ii) BDC does not provide grants or subsidies. It provides debt
and equity financing which must be repaid, including both capital
and interest. All the money lent by BDC to small business is
borrowed from international and domestic financial markets. In
order to meet the operating needs of its loan clients, the bank
provides flexible repayment terms, including seasonal payments if
required.
(iii) For its administrative purposes the BDC maintains
activity reports on a branch by branch basis. The BDC does not
maintain statistics on the basis of electoral ridings and is
therefore
unable to provide the listing as requested. BDC is, however,
providing statistics relating to loan activity of the BDC on the
basis of branch. Branches may service more than one riding. The
following are the loans and guarantees authorized for the fiscal
year ending March 31, 1998, by branches which include in their
territories the requested rindings:
The Scarborough branch, which includes the riding of Markham,
authorized 53 loans for a total of $25.1 million; the Saint John,
N.B., branch which includes the riding of Saint John, authorized
44 loans for $7.2 million; the Calgary branch , which includes
Calgary Southwest, authorized 198 loans for $36.5 million; the
Halifax Branch, which includes the riding of Halifax, authorized
81 loans for a total of $22.6 million, the De Maisonneuve branch,
which includes the riding of Laurier—Ste-Marie, authorized 74
loans for a total of $26.3 million; the Trois-Rivières branch,
which includes the riding of Saint-Maurice, authorized 68 loans
for a total of $16.1 million; the Ottawa branch, which includes
the riding of Ottawa South, authorized 114 loans for a total of
$33.3 million; and Place Ville Marie Montreal branch, which
includes the riding of Lasalle—Émard authorized 221 loans for
$55.1 million.
(iv) For the provinces requested the following are the loans and
guarantees authorized for the year ending March 31, 1998. In the
province of Quebec there were 1,807 loans authorized for a total
of $477.4 million. In Ontario there were 1,291 loans authorized
for a total of $388.3 million. In Alberta there were 693 loans
authorized for $98.2 million. In Nova Scotia there were 118 loans
authorized for $29.4 million and in New Brunswick there were 227
loans authorized for $47.4 million.
(v) (a) The Techno-net loan was recently launched. Therefore it
is too early to report activities under this product.
For the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998: (b) 515 loans for $18
million were authorized under the micro business program; (c) 46
patient capital loans for $9.4 million were authorized; (d) term
loans which include products such as the micro business program,
the young entrepreneur financing program and the tourism
investment fund consisted of 5,759 loans for a total of $1.2
billion for the year; (e) 215 venture loans for $77.6 million
were authorized; (f) 231 working capital for growth loans were
authorized for a total of $18.5 million; (g) 16 working capital
for exporters loans were authorized for a total of $3.3 million;
(h) 27 loans for $31.8 million were authorized under the tourism
investment fund program; (i) 158 loans for $4.1 million were authorized
under the young entrepreneur financing program; and (j) 59
aboriginal business loans were authorized for $12.2 million.
Question No. 232—Mr. John Duncan:
Could the government provide a complete list of all the regional
and local ports of British Columbia as designated under the
Transport Canada national marine policy of December 1995 that
have not yet been successfully transferred to provincial
governments, municipal authorities, community organizations,
private interests or other groups, or other federal departments
as of March 31, 1999?
Mr. Stan Dromisky (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of
Transport, Lib.): This is a list of remaining regional and local
ports in British Columbia as of March 31, 1999:
Ahousat—Gambier Island—Piers Island—Southbank, François Lake,
Alert Bay—Gold River—Port Clements—Stewart
Alice Arm—Grief Point—Port Graves—Sturdies Bay
Alliford Bay—Halfmoon Bay—Port Hardy—Swartz Bay
Billings Bay—Halkett Bay—Port Renfrew—Takla Landing
Blubber Bay—Harrison Hot Springs—Port Simpson—Telegraph Creek
Brentwood Bay—Hopkins Landing—Port Washington—Thetis Island
Campbell River—Horseshoe Bay—Powell River—Tofino
Chemainus—Keats Island—Saanichton Bay—Ucluelet
Coal Harbour—Kelsey Bay—Savary Island—Vananda Cove
Deep Cove—Kuper Island—Seymour Arm—Vaucroft Beach
Eastbourne—Masset—Sicamous—Victoria and Esquimalt
Esperanza—Miners Bay—Sidney—Whaletown
Fernwood Point—Montague Harbour—Snug Cove
Friendly Cove—Nanoose Bay—Sointula
[Translation]
Mr. Peter Adams: Mr. Speaker, I would ask that the remaining
questions be allowed to stand.
The Deputy Speaker: Is that agreed?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
[Translation]
CANADIAN ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ACT, 1999
The House resumed consideration of Bill C-32, an Act respecting
pollution prevention and the protection of the environment and
human health in order to contribute to sustainable development,
as reported (with amendment) from the committee; and of Group
No. 6.
Mr. Benoît Sauvageau (Repentigny, BQ): Mr. Speaker, I am happy
to have the opportunity to speak to Bill C-32, especially to
motions in Group No. 6. It is for me a great privilege to be
able to discuss the Canadian Environmental Protection Act.
I wish, at the outset, to add my voice to those of my colleagues
of the Bloc Quebecois in congratulating our critic, the member
for Jonquière who has worked so hard on this bill since October.
She has listened patiently and attentively to the many witnesses
and lobby groups who came before the committee to express their
views on the legislation.
Indeed the environmental protection act is constantly undergoing
revisions since changes in ways of production, technological
progress and the evolution of all that surrounds us warrant a
constant review of the legislation.
That is why I wish to pay tribute to the member for Jonquière
for the work she has accomplished on this bill.
As my colleagues clearly explained, we cannot support the
government's proposals in Bill C-32 because the federal
government's approach of environmental issues, which are
eminently contentious due to the jurisdiction the federal and
the provinces share in this area, and the basic idea of this
bill introduced by our friends across the way show that for them
provinces are negligible players when it comes to taking
decisions about the environment.
I have had the opportunity of sitting on the environment and
sustainable development committee.
Almost every day during the hearings, the federal government
seemed to say: “You know, environment is so important that it
transcends boundaries. So, we cannot let the provinces manage
environmental issues, because they are too important”.
What the government is saying in a roundabout way is: we can let
the provinces deal with the unimportant stuff, but it is up to
the federal government to take care of important matters.
We find the Liberal government's idea of leaving the less
important issues to the provinces and of taking care of the
environment itself, since this is important, totally acceptable.
True, the environment is important.
However, the provinces—and I will prove it to the House a little
later on—are quite capable of promoting environmental standards
and sustainable development initiatives involving the use of
non-renewable and renewable resources.
If we follow the Liberal government's idea to its logical
conclusion, when it says that the environment transcends
boundaries, which means that the provinces are unable to assume
their duties in their areas of jurisdiction, why would the
federal government want to get involved?
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If environmental issues transcend boundaries, and we only have
to think about acid rain, we should let the Americans set our
environmental standards. If the environment transcends
boundaries, let us urge some other government or international
agency to address them.
Yes, the environment transcends boundaries, but national
governments like the provincial government of Quebec must play
their role to defend and protect future generations and provide
them with a healthy and sustainable environment.
In Bill C-32, Canadians are told that the federal government
should legislate more for all jurisdictions because it knows
best. It is often said that what goes around comes around. Let
us look at the federal government's record, in particular what
it did in Kyoto. It came up with a half-baked position at the
very last minute. My colleague for Rosemont who was our party's
critic for the environment at the time urged the minister to
make her position known before she left. We got an answer just
the day before she left for Kyoto. That was blatant
improvisation.
We should also consider what happened after the Rio de Janeiro
summit. We had a PC government then, followed by a Liberal
government. For most of the commitments signed in Rio de
Janeiro, at the notorious earth summit, neither the timetable
nor the agenda have been respected.
The committee reviewed the role of all federal departments as
far as the protection of the environment was concerned. It was
concluded that the federal government should first clean up its
own house. We are being told that the provinces are not up to
their task of protecting the environment. However, at the
federal level, oftentimes the environment department does not
even know what the natural resources department is doing.
If one looks at what goes on in the Department of Industry or
even in the Department of Transport, for example what goes on in
airports with the use of toxic substances that are then
discarded, if one looks at what goes on in the Department of
Agriculture where there is virtually no legislation with regard
to pesticides, each department has its own string to pull. But
these strings are all entangled, and the Minister of the
Environment cannot even find the beginning of a solution to
environmental problems.
On one hand, the rhetoric is good, but on the other hand, we see
actions that are totally inconsistent. To prove what I just
said, I will give the example of an international conference on
mercury where the Minister of Natural Resources and the Minister
of the Environment publicly contradicted each other on this
subject in front of experts and other people who were in
attendance.
The Minister of Natural Resources and the Minister of the
Environment went to an international conference without
developing a common position. Can we think that the idea of
giving the federal government exclusive jurisdiction over
environmental matters because they are important is justified
when we see this kind of behaviour at an international
conference?
According to the report from the environment commissioner, Brian
Emmett, federal officials have said, after examining the reports
submitted by businesses pursuant to the protocol on the
reduction and elimination of toxic substances, that they believe
more than 75% of reported reductions are false or misleading.
Seventy-five per cent of the information contained in the reports
on the elimination of toxic substances is false. And the federal
government wants us to trust it.
It wants us to believe it will pass definitive legislation on
the environment.
Now, looking at what this same commissioner of the environment,
Mr. Emmett, told the federal government about protection from
toxic substances, how he accused it of shirking its
responsibilities on toxic substances, we can see how we are
entitled to question turning some elements of provincial
jurisdiction over the environment over to the federal
government.
The Canadian Environmental Protection Act is a huge piece of
legislation encompassing everything to do with environmental
protection and sustainable development in Canada.
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This bill needs intelligent amendment and improvement, so as to
respect provincial jurisdictions and not to give the federal
government more power, broader jurisdiction.
In order to address some of the inconsistencies in the federal
and provincial legislation on the environment, I would like to
quote an environmental expert, Pierre Béland, if I recall his
name correctly. He sat on the Great Lakes Commission until very
recently. He told us this “If a whale gets into problems in the
middle of the St. Lawrence, it is under federal jurisdiction.
If the same injured whale beaches itself, then it is under
provincial jurisdiction, because the shores are provincial.
But, if this injured beached whale dies, then it falls back
under federal jurisdiction because it then comes under the
federal legislation on endangered species”.
How can anyone make informed decisions on the environment when
everything depends on the time of day, the wind direction, the
temperature, and what not?
I believe that the party in power must do its homework, take
into consideration the amendments presented by the opposition
parties, the Bloc Quebecois included, and improve Bill C-32.
Otherwise, as we have said, we are going to have to vote against
it.
[English]
Ms. Paddy Torsney (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of the
Environment, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I am happy to speak to the
motions in Group No. 6.
The NDP Motion No. 41 would require research in relation to
pollution and children. Under the existing CEPA, whether it is
reducing the amount of benzine, which is a known carcinogen in
gasoline, or banning substances that harm the earth's ozone
layer, the health and well-being of our children has always been
a key consideration. The whole reason for Bill C-32 is to
prevent pollution from substances that are harmful to the
environment and human health, including our children.
The bill requires that the government look at the 23,000
substances that are currently in Canada. In the 1998 budget our
government invested $40 million in toxic research. Children, as
well as the elderly and aboriginal peoples, are most vulnerable
to the threat of toxic substances. This research gave us answers
on what needs to be done to protect those most vulnerable and all
Canadians from the threat of toxic substances.
With these answers in hand, Bill C-32 and the $42 million
earmarked in the 1999 budget for action on toxics will provide
the means to better protect the environment and health of all
Canadians.
Motions Nos. 36, 37 and 70 seek to link definitions in part 3 to
areas that are accessible to pollution. We are not exactly sure
what NDP Motion No. 36 is trying to accomplish. It seems to
suggest that the definitions in part 3, fish and hormone
disrupting substances, should apply in areas that are reasonably
accessible to children. The NDP is trying to do the same to
certain regulatory powers. This is unnecessary in our view.
Bill C-32 is a law of general application and it applies
throughout Canada. It is a bill for all Canadians. The
suggestion to add a definition of environmental pollutant is also
confusing and we believe would limit the powers in part 3.
The government prefers to have research and information
gathering powers to cover the all-inclusive concept of substance
rather than the more narrow definition of environmental
pollutant. We prefer Bill C-32 as it is rather than the narrowly
defined powers suggested by the NDP and the Reform.
The Reform motion seeks to change the definition of hormone
disrupting substances. While it was the government's intention
to introduce a definition of hormone or endocrine disrupting
substances at the committee stage, the government would prefer to
let the committee's definition stand in its place. Our research
community is actively pursuing research into endocrine disrupting
substances and finding solutions to this growing concern.
The federal government is moving quickly to meet the
requirements in Bill C-32 to conduct research. Hormone
disrupting substances are a priority of the government's $40
million toxic substance research initiative.
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Just last week the Ministers of Health and the Environment
announced a series of projects under the first tranche of
investment research dollars. Some $10.94 million was allocated
to 81 projects across Canada to conduct research on toxic
substances in five priority areas: persistent organic
pollutants, specific forms of metals in the environment,
endocrine disrupting chemicals, urban air quality and human
exposure to airborne pollutants, and the cumulative effective of
toxic substances.
Over 360 Canadian researchers will be participating in the
various research studies. They will draw upon strong
partnerships with government, industry, academia and
non-governmental sectors. All provinces were covered in the
announcement.
A University of Calgary study will investigate the adverse
health effects on babies due to exposure to environmental
chemicals in the mother's womb. The science management and
technical review committees of the toxic substances research
initiative reviewed many applications. They put forth much time
and effort to review these applications and to move this process
forward.
One of these announcements was the allocation of $2.16 million
to 17 projects relating to endocrine disruption substances. They
cover a wide range of issues concerning the effects on human
health as well as the environmental impacts on the environment.
Seven projects were given to Environment Canada, eight to
universities across Canada, one to Health Canada and one to the
Department of Fisheries and Oceans.
The following are some of the projects: Michel Fournier,
professor at the Institut Armand-Frappier, is investigating fetal
organ thynic culture as organ assay for environmental endocrine
disrupting substances, a $70,000 project; Robert Casper at the
University of Toronto is looking into the adverse reproductive
effect of exposure to dioxin-like endocrine disrupters, an
$80,000 project; Donald Cole at McMaster University in Hamilton
is looking into time of pregnancy, in vivo contaminant levels and
biological mechanisms in premeps; Poh-Gek Forkhert at Queen's
University in Kingston is looking into the reproductive toxicity
induced by trichlorethylene in mice and humans; Scott Brown at
Canada's own Environment Canada, National Water Research
Institute located in Burlington, Ontario is looking into the
effects of endocrine disrupters on seawater adaptability, growth
and survival of salmon smolts.
There are other projects at the University of Calgary, at the
University of Guelph and at the University of Toronto, all across
this country. The government is putting its commitments to
making sure that we are looking at preventing pollution, that we
are putting together a strong regulatory framework and that we
will have a bill that will see Canadians through into the next
millennium making sure that we do things differently. We have
learned the lessons from the past. The bill is necessary to make
sure that we can implement those lessons and have a strong
regulatory regime.
I urge all members of the House to support the bill and see its
passage in the next couple of days.
Mr. Gordon Earle (Halifax West, NDP): Mr. Speaker, today
being the first day of environment week, I am very pleased to
discuss Bill C-32, the Canadian Environmental Protection Act,
and, in particular, Group No. 6 motions.
The bill is a very significant piece of legislation. It
consists of 227 pages, 12 parts, 8 divisions and a total of 253
clauses that include regulations on toxic substances, exports and
imports of hazardous waste, biotechnology, ocean dumping, vehicle
emissions, fuels and fuel additives, international air pollution,
enforcement and other environmentally related matters. It has
undergone one of the lengthiest reviews in recent parliamentary
history and has set several records.
I understand the committee held 59 meetings, 37 of which were on
clause by clause review. More than 560 amendments were drafted
for consideration. With today's proposed motions, Bill C-32 has
now exceeded 800 amendments for consideration. The NDP has
submitted over 100 amendments at committee, surpassing all
opposition party amendments combined.
I am very pleased to speak to the bill, which is perhaps the
cornerstone of environmental protection in Canada.
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I will turn now to the Group No. 6 motions. I will outline some
of the points we would like to bring to the attention of the
House concerning this group. It is very unfortunate that the
Liberal government has imposed time restrictions to limit debate
on this important bill which decides the level of environmental
protection for Canadians.
Given the time restrictions I will begin to outline our efforts
to provide a safer environment for children, the main theme
behind the Group No. 6 motions. Children are especially
vulnerable, as we heard earlier today, to environmental
contaminants and pollution. A child's environment is affected
even before birth.
If we look at such things as fetal alcohol syndrome, we know
that what a mother takes into her body can affect the well-being
of a child and have permanent and lasting effects throughout that
child's life. Environment is very important for children.
People have concerns about lawns being sprayed with chemicals
and pesticides. I recall receiving a letter from a person who
had visited the town of Bedford. He said he was very impressed
with this wonderful town in eastern Canada. He loved the place
but he was concerned about the spraying of lawns that was taking
place.
Environment is a very important issue. The Canadian Institute
of Child Health presented a series of recommendations to the
Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development
during the review of Bill C-32. The purpose of the motions in
Group No. 6 are to acknowledge the special protection that our
children expect and deserve.
We have followed the child institute's suggestion to investigate
the specific legislation which the U.S. Environmental Protection
Agency has in place entitled “A Safer Environment for
Children”. The President of the United States referred to the
specific request of the Environmental Protection Agency to
acknowledge the special vulnerability and susceptibility of
children to environmental contaminants and pollution. Congress
agreed with the president and backed this historic initiative.
The basis of the amendment to the Toxic Substances Control Act
recognizes that current public health and environmental standards
require specific recommendations as related to children. This
requirement should carry into the establishment of regulations
which govern the exposure to contaminants children may face.
The EPA instructions are mirrored in our New Democratic Party
Motion No. 41. We chose to place this motion in part 3, the
information gathering section, to ensure ministers and
legislators take children into consideration whenever decisions
are being made on environmental matters. This is very important.
Sometimes children are forgotten members of society. We do not
consider them when we are making decisions. It is very important
that we consider children. This can include toxic substance
reviews where the process to quantify or regulate substances are
concerned. The specific requirements are to assure that
ministers conduct research or studies with respect to the
increased susceptibility children face.
The motion requires that alternate substances or products
“safer for children” be identified. Information on the
potential health effects to children is also addressed. This
should be acceptable to members of the House. It is important to
recognize this is a precautionary measure. This is a principle
we must look at.
While we are discussing the importance of the environment to
children in Canada and while we are looking today at legislation
that is outlined to try to protect the Canadian environment, we
cannot look at it in isolation. We must recognize environment is
an issue that should be of concern to us worldwide.
I find it quite ironic that we can be looking at protecting our
environment while at the same time we as Canadians and as
partners to NATO are taking part in the destruction of the
environment in another part of the world. We are dropping bombs
that are polluting water resources. We are destroying chemical
factories and so forth, sending pollution adrift into the air. We
as partners are condoning the use of weapons by the Americans
which involve depleted uranium.
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I will tell the House a bit about depleted uranium. We are told
that it is a highly toxic substance to humans both chemically as
a heavy metal and radiologically as an alpha particle emitter
which is very dangerous when taken internally. Upon impact
depleted uranium bursts into flames. It produces a toxic and
radioactive ceramic aerosol that is much lighter than uranium
dust. It can travel in the air tens of kilometres from the point
of release and settle, waiting to be stirred up in dust and
suspended in the air from human or animal movement. It is very
small and can be breathed in by anyone from babies and pregnant
women to the elderly and the sick.
This radioactive and toxic ceramic can stay in the lungs for
years, irradiating the surrounding tissue with powerful alpha
particles. It can affect the lungs, the gastrointestinal system,
the liver, the kidneys, bone and other tissue, and the renal
system.
We understand that in the current conflict taking place in
Kosovo, the A-10 Warthog is capable of firing 4,200 rounds of
this abomination every minute. The U.S. government has suggested
that almost one million rounds of this radioactive toxin casing
were fired in Iraq during the gulf war. Iraq has witnessed
explosive rates of stillbirths, children born with defects,
childhood leukemia and other cancers, particularly in the region
where these shells were fired.
When we talk about protecting the environment we must not take
it in isolation. We must not think only about our Canadian
environment. The air knows no boundaries. Water knows no
boundaries. Certainly, if we are talking about protecting
children, we must be cognizant of children across the world and
throughout the entire universe.
I urge that we consider very strongly this group of motions
which strives to take precautionary measures to protect our
children and our future.
Mr. Ian Murray (Lanark—Carleton, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I am
pleased to take part in the report stage debate on Bill C-32,
legislation that proposes renewal of the Canadian Environmental
Protection Act.
The 10 minutes available to me in this part of the debate are
not enough to describe fully the many advantages of the
legislation. They do provide, however, sufficient time to
outline 20 ways in which the bill is a significant improvement
over the existing act, 20 ways in which the legislation will mean
better protection of the environment and the health of Canadians.
(1) the bill makes pollution prevention the cornerstone of the
new act and provides authority to require pollution prevention
plans for toxic substances.
(2) under the legislation all 23,000 substances in Canada will
be examined to determine if they are toxic.
(3) Bill C-32 puts in place deadlines for taking action to
prevent pollution from toxic substances.
(4) the most dangerous toxic substances will be virtually
eliminated.
(5) the bill will provide the environment minister with the
power to require industry to prepare and implement emergency
preparedness plans for toxic substances.
(6) the legislation requires that the government conduct
research on hormone disrupting substances, something that the
ministers of environment and health already acted on last week
with investments under the toxic substances research initiative.
(7) it expands the minister's information gathering powers to
support scientific research on environmental problems.
(8) it will promote greater public participation through a new
Internet based environmental registry of CEPA information.
(9) citizens will also have a new right to sue if government
fails to enforce CEPA and it results in significant harm to the
environment.
(10) the bill requires the establishment of the national
pollutants release inventory and guarantees that Canadians will
be able to get information about pollution in their communities.
(11) in recognition of aboriginal self-government aboriginal
governments will have representatives on the national advisory
committee alongside provinces and territories.
(12) the bill expands the authority to require cleaner fuels,
meaning cleaner air in Canadian cities.
(13) the legislation transfers authority to set engine emission
standards for new motor vehicles from the Motor Vehicle Safety
Act and expands it to cover other types of engines such as those
in off-road vehicles and lawn mowers.
(14) protecting the environment is a global issue. It is
therefore essential for Canada to meets its international
environmental commitments. The bill provides authority to
implement our obligations under the Basel convention on the
control of transboundary movement of hazardous wastes and their
disposal.
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(15) it will allow Canada to put in place a more stringent
regime for ocean disposal in accordance with the 1996 protocol to
the convention on the prevention of marine pollution by the
dumping of wastes and other matter.
(16) Bill C-32 contains authority to implement the convention on
prior informed consent for hazardous chemicals and pesticides in
international trade.
(17) it also provides new authority to require pollution
prevention plans for Canadian sources of international air and
water pollution where another Canadian government is unwilling or
unable to deal with the pollution source.
(18) to ensure that the law is obeyed, Bill C-32 provides peace
officer status for our enforcement officers.
(19) it also gives enforcement officers the power to issue on
the spot orders to stop violations and prevent pollution.
(20) the bill contains an innovative alternative dispute
resolution mechanism to avoid costly court procedures.
These are 20 good reasons why I support Bill C-32. They are 20
reasons why all members should support the bill. Most important,
this list of improvements outlines 20 ways in which the
environment and health of Canadians will be better protected
under Bill C-32.
[Translation]
Mr. Bernard Bigras (Rosemont, BQ): Mr. Speaker, it is with great
pleasure that I stand up today to speak about Bill C-32,
especially about the motions in Group No. 6.
I am particularly pleased to have accepted the invitation from
my colleague from Jonquière today, since this debate falls on
the first day of environment week.
First of all, it is important to mention that no matter what
changes are made to Bill C-32 we are against it, at this stage at
least. However, we never opposed the basic principle linking
economic development to environment protection.
It is a fundamental principle established many years ago by the
United Nations commission for the environment, which was chaired
by Mrs. Brundtland, the former prime minister of Norway. That
commission put forth a concept where economic development
environmental protection go hand in hand.
This is all the more important because of the population
increase of the last few years. With that population explosion
and technological advances, economic activity has multiplied by
20 since the beginning of this century. Furthermore economic
growth was directly linked to technological development all over
the world.
Whether we want it or not, not only did that impact on the
environment but it also impacted directly on our life. In this
context, it is unavoidable that we will face many environmental
crises.
It cannot be avoided, it is part of reality. That is why we have
to protect ourselves.
Obviously we have to protect ourselves with laws, a fact that
has been recognised on several occasions, including at the
recent environment ministers' meeting, where the Quebec Minister
of the Environment, Paul Bégin, expressed his desire to protect
the environment, while making sure that certain clear rules are
obeyed. I will come back to this subject later on, but I thought
it was important to mention it now.
Earlier, I was listening to the Parliamentary Secretary to the
Minister of the Environment who enumerated a series of
announcements she or her minister made concerning the
environment over the last few months. It is important to look
carefully at the net results of the government's commitment.
I reread my notes from the time I was the Bloc's environment
critic.
On April 24, 1998, the Liberal government launched a vast
publicity campaign in Canada to sing the praise of the Canadian
government for its key role in the protection against climate
change at the international level. The publicity said, and I
quote: “To play a key role at the international level by
contributing to the reduction of the causes of climate change in
the world”.
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When I came to this House and when I became environment critic,
I soon realized that there was a lot of rhetoric on the other
side, but very few results.
A quick look at this government's and this country's record with
regard to the reduction of greenhouse gases is enough to see
that we do not fare well among OECD countries.
I think it is important to say so because, over the last two
years, the government has not had a clear objective with regard
to the environment and has not even been able to meet the
commitments made by its predecessor at the Rio summit in 1992.
I think it is important to deal with the issue of climate change.
For the past two years, the government, through its environment
minister, has claimed it would play a leadership role in
international fora, especially at the Kyoto summit. This issue
is of the utmost importance since over the past few years we
have been releasing billions of tons of carbon dioxide into the
atmosphere, causing global warming.
It is important to note that we in North America alone are
responsible for a quarter of emissions. In view of this
environmental situation, it is important to make international
commitments and pass laws taking it into account.
At the Rio summit in 1992 the federal government agreed to the
common goal of stabilizing greenhouse gas emissions at the 1990
level by the year 2000. Canada agreed to it and so did Quebec
through a motion passed by the national assembly.
While the federal government was committed to acting as a
responsible government, taking the necessary steps, and
respecting the international commitments it signed, more than
ever Quebec was true to its word on this issue at the
international level. Its record speaks for itself.
I mentioned 1992, but there is also mention 1995, the Berlin
international conference where the alarm was sounded to the
world to the effect that the mere stabilisation of greenhouse
gas emissions by the year 2000 would not be enough because it
would not reduce the mortality rate nor the incidence of
diseases caused by global warming and gas emissions.
At that time the message from Berlin was loud and clear.
Governments that made a commitment in Rio in 1992 must not only
stand by it, but if at all possible, go even further.
The Kyoto conference is another important event.
Canada who, a year before, was bragging about being an
international showcase and leading the way in gas reduction, is
not acting upon its commitments although they had some merit.
That conference could have allowed Canada to influence the
future.
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Instead, the federal government has delayed disclosing its
commitments and its position with regard to a 3 per cent
reduction of gas emissions by the year 2010. That is not enough.
Quebec said so over and over again. Quebec was ready to commit
to going twice as far as Canada in its initial position.
On the issue of climate changes, Quebec has met its commitments.
Quebec was able to do so because it adjusted its objectives. It
has undergone a change in its energy use thus enabling it to
improve the situation in Canada as well as internationally.
While Western Canada kept investing in fossil fuels, Quebec gave
greater place to hydroelectric generation and came up with
policies in keeping with our quality of life needs both economic
and environmental, which of course includes economic growth.
At this stage, we oppose Bill C-32 because it is conducive to
overlapping and duplication and, especially, because the federal
government does not respect Quebec's exclusive jurisdiction over
environment matters under the Constitution.
[English]
Mr. Peter Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern
Shore, NDP): Mr. Speaker, I wish to honour environment week
which we are recognizing this week.
I also mention that the Minister of Canadian Heritage again got
it wrong. In a statement on a question earlier today during
question period she said “two founding peoples of this nation”.
I remind the minister and her Liberal Party that there are
actually three founding peoples of this nation with the first one
being the aboriginal people of this country. The French
and English came afterward. As the Minister of Canadian Heritage
we would think she would know that more than anyone else.
We are here to talk about something equally important. It is
probably the most important act we could do as parliamentarians,
CEPA, the Canadian Environmental Protection Act. I sat in on some
of the committee hearings which were long and drawn out but very
important. The Liberals with their Reform counterparts have
completely watered down the bill and now CEPA stands for “can't
ever protect anything”. That is what this bill amounts to and I
will give an example.
When the bill came out of committee one part of the preamble was
“Whereas the Government of Canada acknowledges the need to phase
out the generation and use of the most persistent and
bioaccumulative toxic substances”. The part “to phase out”
has been removed by the Liberal government. The bill has been
severely weakened by that action.
The bill said “achieving virtual elimination” but the word
“achieving” is gone when taking steps to achieve the virtual
elimination of a substance. The government has completely
watered this down to the point where the minister will now
prescribe the quantity or concentration of the substance that may
be released into the environment. This is not a phase-out of
these toxic substances, it is a reduction. It is virtual
elimination, not a total phase-out.
When will the government understand that in order to protect
Canadians and future generations, we have to totally eliminate
these things, not virtually eliminate? There is nothing to tell
industry it is mandatory to abide by these rules and legislation.
The Liberal government's and previous governments' actions on
the environment are severely weakened to the point that it
borders on absolutely terrible.
The MMT decision by this Liberal government cost $13 million
U.S. Nobody in this country wanted a manganese additive in their
gasoline except the Liberal government. We are required to pay
$13 million U.S. to keep it here and nobody else wants it.
At the present time there are also concerns about the bulk
transport of water out of this country. Nobody in Canada wants
to do that except the Liberal government. If the government
wanted to stop it, legislation would have been put forward and
passed by now.
But no, we are being sued again by the California and U.S.
governments to the tune of $220 million. If the MMT decision is
anything similar to that, we will end up losing that as well
because the government has no teeth and no guts when it comes to
the protection of our environment.
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Twenty-five years ago one out of every twenty women in this
country was diagnosed with breast cancer; now it is one out of
every nine. The facts speak for themselves. Those are women. We
are not talking about children yet which this particular clause
is about. For the government not to take in the rights and the
protection of our children at all costs is absolutely criminal.
We heard the parliamentary secretary talk about money spent on
research which is very welcome. The question is what is being
done with that information? The environmental commissioner said
it is being ignored completely. The government whitewashes it,
gets rid of it. The government talks and talks and nothing
happens.
In April 1998 I asked the deputy minister of the environment if
he had the finances or resources to do the job properly. His
answer was no, he did not. In April 1998 it is on the record
that the deputy minister of the environment said that he did not
have the finances, the resources or the personnel to do the job
effectively. I have not seen any changes on that.
A lot of people outside of the House are watching this debate
today. They need to be congratulated for their tireless efforts
in terms of protecting the environment.
I think of Mr. Brian McHattie and Mr. Don McLean of Red Hill
Creek down in South Hamilton. They are trying to protect that
urban park from expansion of the expressway.
I would like to thank Mr. Dennis Bicknell, Ms. Marilyn Chalice
and Walter Reagan of the Sackville River's Association, and I
wear their pin proudly today, for the protection of the river and
trail systems of Lower Sackville and Bedford and the protection
they offer to children in restoring creeks for salmon habitat and
everything else.
I would also like to thank two NDP MLAs from Nova Scotia, Mr.
John Holm and Mr. Don Chard for their tireless efforts in getting
660 acres of land protected in Lower Sackville. That is for the
protection and use of our children for many generations to come.
I would also like to thank Mr. Paul Falvo and Elizabeth May of
the Sierra Club, Mr. Dave Campbell, Mr. Paul Muldoon and of
course the greatest environmentalist this country has ever had,
Mr. David Suzuki.
These people spend their lives trying to protect the environment
and get the message across to the government that it is
definitely needed and very important.
I wish to thank Mr. Mark Butler and the Ecology Action Centre of
Nova Scotia for over 27 years of environmental activism in terms
of protecting the environment of Nova Scotia. Without them I do
not know where we would be today.
It is not surprising that the government does not understand
what is going on. However, there are three Liberal members whom
I wish to congratulate for their tireless efforts in protecting
the environment. They are the member for Lac-Saint-Louis, the
member for York North and the member for Davenport. At least
these three people listen. At least these three Liberals
understand environmental concerns. At least these three Liberals
know what the hell is going on. Unfortunately, the other 150-odd
Liberals do not know. I apologize for using that strong word.
At least those three Liberals understand the situation. The rest
of them do not and that is a crime.
Members of the Reform Party of Canada support things like
virtual elimination. That shows exactly who is buttering their
bread, and that is industry. When will they realize that industry
only cares about profits and shareholders? It does not care
about the environment. If it did, it would put in long term
solutions and programs that would benefit the seven generation
principle which our aboriginal people have survived on for
thousands and thousands of years.
Unfortunately, these Liberal and Reform members can only see the
ends of their noses and that is it, usually in four year
electoral terms. The record is quite clear.
Recently we heard an announcement on the Sydney tar ponds.
Except for Chernobyl, it is probably the world's worst
environmental site. It has been decided to put $62 million in to
move some families. Although that is very welcome, what we need
from the government is a commitment now. Not tomorrow, now.
The Minister of the Environment and the Prime Minister must
stand in the House and say that the tar ponds are going to be
cleaned up once and for all. We have not heard them say that.
We have heard the government say it is going to put so many
millions of dollars into this, it is going to do this, and it is
going to consult.
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We have been talking about the tar ponds for years and years. My
message is quite clear to Liberals: clean it up now. It is
simple. I will say it one more time so they will hear it: clear
up the Sydney tar ponds now, not tomorrow. People are getting
very sick. The rates of cancer in the Sydney area are
exponential to that in the rest of the country.
It is unbelievable that the government just sits here and wastes
time after time after time. The sad thing is people are now
saying—
Ms. Paddy Torsney: You just voted against time
allocation.
Mr. Peter Stoffer: Time allocation on a watered down CEPA
bill, I say to the parliamentary secretary. It was watered down
went it left committee.
I have a question for the parliamentary secretary. Why was the
bill watered down when it left committee? Why was that done? It
is quite simple. I know the parliamentary secretary will not get
an opportunity to respond. Perhaps she can do that afterward
over coffee.
The Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of the Environment
is a decent person, but when it comes to the protection of the
environment all she reads is what she is handed by the
bureaucrats. I wish for once she would tell us how she really
feels about protecting the environment.
I could go on for days on this subject. In the old days we were
able to do that; we could filibuster until the cows came home. I
wish we still had those days.
On behalf of the New Democratic Party, federally and
provincially, it is a real shame that the government watered down
the bill when it left committee. Now we will see where the real
Liberals stand in terms of the votes tonight at 6.30 p.m. This
is where we will separate the Liberals from the true
environmental protectors on this side, my colleagues in the Bloc
and some of those in the Conservative Party.
[Translation]
Mr. Michel Guimond
(Beauport—Montmorency—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île-d'Orléans, BQ): Mr.
Speaker, I am delighted to intervene on Bill C-32, which concerns
the protection of the environment.
Right off, I would point out that our party is very aware of
environmental issues. I take this opportunity to congratulate my
colleague, the member for Jonquière, for the work she has done
in committee. In mentioning the work done in committee, I am not
telling you anything new when I say the birth was a very
difficult one. It took more than forceps to get this bill before
us.
Just to give you an idea, this bill was tabled at first reading
on March 12, 1998. We will recall that it replaced Bill C-74,
which died on the order paper because of the election call on
June 2, 1997.
The bill was tabled on March 12, 1998, at first reading, and was
referred to committee for study in the fall of 1998, which was
concluded in April 1999. We might well question the coherence of
this bill, since amendments are coming from all sides, presented
without any sort of link or relationship. We may well wonder
what sort of bill will govern the rules of society, what sort of
law we will have if it is passed in its entirety.
It took some 60 sessions to study the bill clause by clause, and
580 amendments were drafted. To those watching us, you heard
correctly, 580 amendments.
That is incredible, nothing like this is ever seen and it will
certainly appear in the Guinness book of records, not to mention
the internal records list of the House.
The government would have done better, in my opinion, to
withdraw its bill right off, to do its homework, return to the
drawing table, start from scratch and say “Just a minute, let us
get in tune”. When a government introduces 580 amendments to its
own bill, we are entitled to question its consistency.
The standing committee on the environment, as I said, broke all
records; it passed some 160 amendments. The final result is a
bill with considerable inconsistency. In the short time we have,
I will try to point out some of the inconsistencies.
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First of all, there is the whole question of harmonization with
the provinces. Under the original version of Bill C-32, the
federal government was going to act in accordance with the
intent of intergovernmental agreements. The Liberal majority
softened this requirement by adding the word “endeavour” before
the verb “to act”.
We all know the legal implication of such words as “endeavour”,
“attempt” or “try”. Then they say “We have tried. We attempted
to do this or that, but unfortunately it was not possible and we
finally did as we pleased”. In a democratic system, it is always
worrying when the governing party is trying to pull a fast one
on us.
Fortunately, the members of the Bloc Quebecois who sat on the
standing committee on the environment were very alert. They were
very well prepared and they have worked like monks, night and
day, to show the amendments tabled by the liberal majority up
for what they are. This one looks like a bull in a china shop.
Its purpose is to add the word “endeavour” before the verb “to
act”.
The Bloc Quebecois maintains that the federal government must
always keep in mind the prospect of harmonization with the
provinces, to avoid duplication and overlap in the legislation
and regulations.
Contrary to what certain persons may think, when the House
adjourns for the summer, the MPs will not be on holiday until
September 19. We will continue our work in our riding offices,
we will keep on meeting people.
When we meet people at the convenience store, the cleaner, the
shopping mall or elsewhere, they tell us “There is way too much
overlap and duplication”.
In the end, who pays for such overlap and duplication? It is the
same person. Whether we are talking about federal, provincial or
municipal taxes, we always have the same common denominator,
namely the taxpayer. Taxpayers are tired of paying. They want us
to avoid overlap and duplication.
Unfortunately, this bill perpetuates overlap and duplication. We
Bloc Quebecois members cannot accept that. We believe that the
people whom we represent are paying enough taxes. They are fed
up with their level of taxation.
By trivializing federal-provincial harmonization agreements, the
Liberal government clearly shows that it lacks the will to
respect the jurisdiction of the provinces with regard to the
environment.
In one of its amendments, the Bloc Quebecois proposes that the
word “endeavour” be deleted. We are saying “You must reach an
agreement, you must act, instead of merely endeavour to act”.
I will try to hurry to say all that I have to say. Clause 9 of
the bill reads as follows:
9.(1) The Minister may negotiate an agreement with a
government...with respect to the administration of this Act.
However, the Liberal majority on the committee decided to
subject this agreement to a new clause 9.(9), which would
trivialize any potential equivalency agreement with the
provinces.
With this clause, the federal government is giving itself the
authority to go over the heads of the provinces, even if the
federal government has concluded an agreement with a province.
This is entirely incomprehensible and unacceptable coming from a
federal government that says it wishes to work in partnership
with the provinces. Clearly, this government's left hand does
not know what its right hand is doing.
We have the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs constantly
telling us he is looking for harmony, co-operation and
partnership with the provinces, while the Prime Minister drones
on about how there has been more co-operation with the provinces
since he has been in office. I respectfully beg to differ. All
this government is looking for is confrontation with the
provinces, not just with Quebec.
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We could talk about the relations between Quebec and Ottawa
since the Liberals took office in 1993, but also about the
relations with all the provinces. Quebec is not alone in its
concerns about the dominating and centralizing tendencies of
this government, which is trying to turn the provinces into
branch plants. The federal government is lord and master. The
provinces are valets and branch plants. We and our constituents
cannot accept this.
The Bloc Quebecois suggested a number of amendments at report
stage, including some to the preamble itself.
We are moving that the paragraph in the preamble decreeing that
there be national environmental standards and national ecosystem
and environmental quality codes of practice be dropped.
We feel that the federal government does not have exclusive
jurisdiction over the environment. This paragraph is therefore
unacceptable to us.
I have only one minute left and will therefore have to skip over
important parts of my speech, but I will try to summarize them.
The Liberal members on the Standing Committee on the Environment
and Sustainable Development have often put a knife to the
throats of opposition members, using their numerical majority to
pass amendments. We feel that these amendments, particularly
those passed by the majority Liberal members in committee, are
unacceptable.
In conclusion, the Bloc Quebecois will be voting against this
bill at report stage and at third reading, unless the government
decides to listen to reason and moves amendments acceptable to
our party.
[English]
Ms. Bev Desjarlais (Churchill, NDP): Mr. Speaker, I
congratulate and thank my hon. colleague from Churchill River,
our environmental critic, for all the work he has done in this
area and for ensuring that our caucus was constantly kept up to
date on the changes that were happening. He made an absolute
point of letting us know his grave concern over the watering down
process that was happening with the bill at committee because of
the Liberal majority there.
There is no question that amendments thereafter were an attempt
to offset the watering down process. I thank him for his
principled position and for continually trying to improve the
bill before us. Should by some horrible chance the government's
amendments all go through and we have a watered down approach, I
am sure he will continue to pursue better legislation for all the
time he is here.
Group No. 6 is key to the legislation in that it addresses the
issue of children's health as much as, if not more than others.
It recognizes that children are different and respond differently
to the environmental hazards around them.
I notice the hon. member for Burlington said that we do not need
separate motions to protect different groups, that the bill is
there to protect everyone. However the bottom line is that the
bill is not following through. It is not doing the job it needs
to do. We are saying that we should give kids a fighting chance
as they are more vulnerable.
We all know it takes less of something to damage a child than it
does others. There are numerous indications of problems which
result while children are in utero. We are constantly told in
the first trimester of pregnancy to be careful so that there are
not problems. That is just in taking medications, let alone
toxic substances which affect Canadians. Specifically children
are the most vulnerable.
I have a hard time accepting that there should not be some
absolute phase out of certain toxins in areas where children are
most vulnerable. We do not let pedophiles hang around
schoolyards. However, toxins are knocking children off left,
right and centre.
If the government cannot see the need to treat children with
added care, then something is seriously wrong.
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We need to ensure that there will be future research and studies
by the health and environment ministries to specifically look at
the damage children will feel.
I also want to comment on the relationship between the federal
and provincial governments. The reason we have federal and
provincial governments is that Canadians recognize that there are
different levels in which they want to see governments involved.
Canadians see the federal government, I am sure much to the
dissatisfaction of the Bloc, as a tie that binds us together. We
want to see all Canadians protected equally.
I do not get caught up in the provincial and federal issue
because I believe that whatever we do to ensure safety and
benefits and to improve things for all Canadians is the route we
want to go. The federal-provincial issue has been an ongoing
problem and it is an argument that both levels of government end
up using. They cannot do this because it is federal. They
cannot do this because it is provincial. The bottom line is that
they both end up passing the buck and nothing gets done. It is
time we ensure that things are accomplished while we are here.
The proposed series of amendments from our caucus and from our
environmental critic to provide a safer environment for our
children will ensure that consideration will be given to the
specific vulnerability and susceptibility of children's
experiences toward environmental contaminants and pollutants
during future regulatory initiatives. There are warnings on
pesticide residues on produce in the United States, including
warnings for parents to take care, wash apples and peel them. We
do not do that in Canada.
This series of motions will require the ministers to compile a
list of substances that are specific hazards to children through
the development stages and early years when they are most at
risk. What that is saying is that, given the chance to know what
is there, I believe parents will make decisions on what their
children should have and what they should not have. They will
take whatever precautionary methods they need. Not giving them
information on the risks is much like the tobacco companies have
been doing for years. They increase the amount of nicotine to
make it addictive. It was not until years and years of constant
pressure that we saw some honesty. We realized that the industry
was not out there only to make a buck at the expense of the lives
of Canadians, it also preyed upon children. The industry wanted
to make sure that children would become addicted to the deadly
toxins in tobacco products.
The New Democratic Party called attention to phthalates,
softeners for plastic materials, a year before Health Canada
acted. The health minister said there was not enough proof. Why
act with precaution when other countries in Europe were banning
these materials? I want to tell members that I was sitting
across from the minister in the House when he said that there was
absolutely no need at all. The lives of Canadian children were
put at risk for another year. The minister said a year later
“We have to ban them. They are not good”.
One of those phthalates I had wrapped up in a little shower gift
to give to a friend's baby. When I phoned to find out about
which products were okay and which were not, the Health Canada
line did not tell me which products were bad, it told me all the
ones which were good. I just had to find that toy and try to
track it down because I could not find out from Health Canada. It
did not want to upset industry by saying that a product was bad.
Luckily, as a member of parliament, enough organizations had sent
information to say that the gift was bad. Those wonderful soft
fingers and toes that I was going to give that baby to chew on
are now sitting in the closet. Maybe I can send them as a gift
to the health minister.
The bottom line is that for a year longer children were put at
risk because of the government's failure to do what was
absolutely necessary. Why not have a legislated requirement to
investigate any potential risk to children?
Once again let us talk about the issue of tainted blood and the
arguments we heard that it was not a problem and the government
was doing everything it could. We knew that in some countries
other things were being done. Why take the chance? Why on earth
would we take the chance of jeopardizing someone's life, except
for the arrogance of thinking that we are right, like the
government did? It just went ahead and did whatever. It was not
going to ensure the protection of Canadians. That is the
problem.
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Returning to the issue of toys, the member for Acadie—Bathurst
introduced a private member's motion to protect children from
chemicals in toys, but Liberal members voted against our motion.
It is not only the health minister who should take the credit for
having to wait one year longer. Every Liberal member who voted
should take the credit for jeopardizing the health of Canadian
children for an extra year.
A listing process, such as the one described in our Motions Nos.
41, 70 and 73, would have avoided the Liberal government's
embarrassment and inaction.
These Group No. 6 motions will assist the government in reducing
the potential adverse impacts on children from a variety of
substances, including pesticides. The requirement could be there
for ministers to address children's vulnerability to toxic
substances while gathering information for research. No one
would be put at risk. We would be ensuring that one extra step
toward protection.
I know there are other members who want to talk on this subject
because it is very serious and there has been a time allocation
ordered. Because of all the serious issues with health care, the
environment for a while has been on the back burner.
It is extremely important that we ensure this is good, decent
and strong legislation. We must not allow this skirting around
of the issue. I encourage everyone to support our amendments.
Let us put a piece of environmental legislation through that will
protect Canadians.
[Translation]
Mr. Claude Bachand (Saint-Jean, BQ): Mr. Speaker, first I want to
join my colleagues in commending the hon. member for Jonquière
for her excellent work. The member is known for her relentless
work and the emphasis she puts on team work.
Several times, she has asked her colleagues from the Bloc to
help her deal with some issues that were raised in committee and
with which they were more familiar. Since I am the critic for
Indian affairs for my party, I have met a few times with native
groups.
The Assembly of First Nations made a presentation that attracted
a lot of attention, and I think the Inuit Tapirisat also came
before the committee.
Since several native groups did participate in the process, I
feel I can speak on this issue.
First, let me read a quote from the report of the royal
commission that I find very significant. It deals with the
events the occurred in the Yukon during the gold rush. “When
Skookum Jim found some gold, everything changed. The first white
men came to our country. They took everything the Indians had.
Now, they want this country, this land. I have 64 grandchildren
in the Yukon. I worry about them. What will happen? Where are
the grandparents of the white kids? The native people should
have their own land”. For the record, this is a quote from Annie
Ned, an excerpt from a book by Julie Cruikshank, Life lived like
a story, published by the University of British Columbia Press.
I think this excerpt helps put things in perspective.
Considering the way things have evolved regarding the
environmental issue, we have nothing to brag about. Again, I can
read excerpts of the royal commission which says that many
descriptions of the environment were made back then, when the
Europeans arrived, namely by the Jesuits.
They described flocks of ducks and Canada geese so dense that
they were like a cloud obscuring the sun. Or miraculous fishing
trips where Europeans only had to stick their hands in the river
to catch fish.
Of course, there is something symbolic in all this. Maybe some
facts are not absolutely exact. But this goes to show that
before the Europeans came, native people were living in an
environment that was untouched and perfect.
They always had the greatest respect for the environment. What
happened after white people came to this country? Well things
began to deteriorate.
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With the recent developments of the 60's, 70's and 80's, things
are far from getting better. Instead, they are getting worse.
Natives in the North have often told me they were very concerned
about mining projects, among other things.
A while ago I mentioned the Yukon. I went there when I was first
elected here in 1993. I saw the disaster caused by the gold rush
which totally changed nature and the environment.
Consequently, the aboriginals are stuck with lands for which
they have made claims but on which they must sacrifice part of
their environmental standards and of their great respect for
nature. It is somewhat distressing for them, and it some of the
things they often mention.
There is also, in the far north, mercury pollution left behind
on Canadian and American bases. Canada and the U.S. ran these
bases, but left everything behind. There is so much pollution
that the Inuit are deeply concerned about the food chain, which
is deteriorating. Traces of mercury have even been found in
breast milk. That is something we often hear, and the situation
is far from improving.
We have nothing to be proud of.
Some will say “Quebec is no better because it also caused some
deterioration to the environment”. People often refer to the
James Bay Agreement, to which I say “What about hydro in
Manitoba? The Cree were the victims of hydro projects ten times
worse that what was done in a civil way in Quebec”.
I am sure that we have had our disagreements with the
aboriginals, but we settled our difficulties and we are
continuing to settle problems, for that matter. There are
demands for the reopening of the James Bay agreement, and there
are important environmental components that the Government of
Quebec is ready to look at.
I join with my colleagues in saying that this bill will, once
again, create duplication and overlap.
As per usual, Ottawa is acting like a big brother who wants to
manage the whole environmental issue and go over the provinces'
heads. This is utterly deplorable.
Under the James Bay agreement, Quebec can say to aboriginal
peoples “We are ready to re-examine some provisions in order to
update them; if you have concerns about the environment, we are
ready to work with you in order to correct them”.
In Quebec, there is a tradition of negotiating with the
aboriginal peoples that is quite unlike what occurred in
Manitoba. When I say ten times worse, I refer to the fact that
rivers in Manitoba have been diverted and that the lands of some
aboriginal peoples have been completely flooded.
Today, several decades later, those peoples are still demanding
compensation and those issues have yet to be settled.
In fact, some bills dealing with aboriginal peoples and in
particular with the terrible hydro situation in Manitoba will
soon be introduced in the House of Commons.
I also travelled to British Columbia on several occasions and it
is a true scandal to see the clear-cutting that is going on
there. I raised the issue with the federal Minister of Natural
Resources and his counterpart in British Columbia. The
government's strategy is quite simple: when lands are claimed by
aboriginal peoples, that sets off a rush on natural resources.
In other words, the idea is to get out as much of the resources
as possible then, once clear-cutting is completed, the government
announces to the aboriginal peoples that it is ready to transfer
lands.
This strategy is rather crooked. On the road, hundreds of trucks
go by.
Loggers practice clear-cutting, load trucks and then race to get
as much of the natural resources as possible from lands claimed
by aboriginal peoples.
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I saw that with the Nisga'a. Fortunately, this fall we are
probably going ahead with the passage of a bill which will
confirm the final signing with the Nisga'a.
There are other aboriginal communities, such as the Chilkotin
and the Carrier-Sekani, who are making land claims and are having
to watch powerless while their forests are systematically being
cut down. When the cutting is over, then the aboriginal peoples
will be told “Now we are ready to sit down with you and
negotiate land claims”. They are going to find they have very
little left.
I also wish to congratulate my colleague from Jonquière for
having succeeded in getting the concept of traditional
aboriginal knowledge included in the preamble.
This is very important in today's context.
The aboriginal peoples' environmental expertise must be
acknowledged. The environment is very important, not only as
part of their culture, but also because of its link to their
traditions of hunting, fishing and gathering. The oral nature
of their traditions must be addressed. The Delgamuukw decision
in the supreme court now recognizes that increasing importance
will be attached to the oral tradition. I would like to
congratulate my colleague for getting this included, at least in
the preamble.
As for the overlap in general, as for the matter of big brother
in Ottawa assuming the right to go over the provinces' heads, if
the government does not heed the amendments submitted by my
party, then of course the Bloc Quebecois will be forced to vote
against Bill C-32.
In closing, I wish to thank the hon. member for Jonquière for
her excellent work.
[English]
Mrs. Michelle Dockrill (Bras d'Or—Cape Breton, NDP): Mr.
Speaker, the auditor general and the Commissioner for the
Environment have identified contaminated and polluted sites as a
major liability that is hurting Canadians and our children on a
daily basis.
It is not only the health liability that is a concern, it is
also the financial liability that drains millions from the
government's coffers in the form of cleanup costs and increased
medical bills for families and their children living in a
contaminated zone.
In my home, Cape Breton Island, we know all about costs. The
Sydney tar ponds, the largest toxic waste site in Canada, are
endangering the health of our families and our children and
putting a brake on attempts to energize the economy. Who wants
to open up shop on contaminated land?
The New Democratic Party believes in green initiatives, that
cleaning up industrial waste and other toxic sites presents not
only a challenge that needs to be addressed but an economic
opportunity to be grasped.
For people in Cape Breton the remediation of the thousands of
acres contaminated by centuries of coal mining and heavy industry
offers the prospect of stable work and the opportunity for Cape
Breton to become a centre of excellence in the environmental
cleanup industry. Excellence is an important word to focus on
because it is essential that any of these projects that are
undertaken from coast to coast be done to the highest standards.
Although I have just emphasized the economic benefits that can
come from a sensitivity to environmental concerns, it is crucial
that the quest to create jobs not obscure the main objective
which is to make sure that the toxic sites are properly cleaned
once and for all.
Too often contaminated sites have been cleaned up with a layer
of topsoil and some daisies leaving the contaminants in the
ground to endanger our future generations. Cleanups need to
begin with a proper assessment of the situation at each site and
the cleanup needs to follow a clear and transparent process from
start to finish.
Many of the problems experienced during site cleaning are caused
by a lack of communication with the public and with affected
populations. For example, the recent and commendable decision by
the Nova Scotia government to relocate residents living on two
streets adjacent to the Sydney tar ponds has simply created more
tension because the relocation appears to have been executed as a
reaction to public pressure not as part of an overall strategy.
In Cape Breton a clear plan is essential as any errors made in a
region with fractured bedrock could result in long term
recontamination of the groundwater.
Just as we have fought the financial deficit, we have to address
the environmental deficit. We cannot leave this debt for our
grandchildren to pay, especially as the price will be paid in
birth defects, disease and premature death.
Government after government has ignored the recommendations of
the environment commissioner, covering their lack of action with
warm words. I hope the government will have the courage to break
that cycle and that we on the NDP benches will have the
opportunity to work with the government and all Canadians of
goodwill on this crucial issue.
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Children are at special risk from the effects of pollution. To
once again speak of my home, we have recently learned from a
study released in Cape Breton that the rate of birth defects is
much higher than the national average. Independent sources
confirm that the true picture is much worse.
We have to make a commitment to our children that we will
provide them with what the United States Environmental Protection
Act defines “as areas that are reasonably accessible to
children”. That means clean streets, clean soil and clean
water.
As the mother of a 10 year old daughter and an 8 month old son,
I owe it to my children and we as a government owe it to Canadian
children.
[Translation]
Mr. Jean-Guy Chrétien (Frontenac—Mégantic, BQ): Mr. Speaker, in
the context of Bill C-32, the motions in Group No. 6 contain
major amendments to the original version of bill.
I do not want to reiterate all that my colleagues have said
before me, especially my colleagues in the Bloc Quebecois,
inspired here by our environment critic, the member for
Jonquière.
I would like to take a closer look at this government's lack of
environmental responsibility since 1993 and discuss waste.
In 1993, when the Prime Minister, the member for Saint-Maurice,
formed his cabinet, he appointed the member for Hamilton, at the
time, the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Environment.
We agree that the environment is the most important department,
especially in an election. Non-living and living elements must be
respected.
A few months later, she was obliged to leave her post for
failing to honour an election promise on the GST. We lost our
Minister of the Environment, because she resigned. The Prime
Minister appointed another Minister of the Environment, and,
according to our evaluation and that of the public at large,
quality continued to drop. Following the 1997 election, we were
given a third Minister of the Environment. Clearly there is a
lack of responsibility.
The good member for Davenport, an environmentalist and an
ecologist of renown, served as Minister of the Environment under
John Turner. He was, with Lucien Bouchard, one of the best
Ministers of the Environment. I would like to salute him in this
House. The member for Davenport, chairman of the standing
committee on the environment, is surely not proud of his
government.
First of all, as the member for
Beauport—Montmorency—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île-d'Orléans put it so
well, there was a record number of amendments. A total of 580
amendments have been introduced. It took 60 sessions to study
Bill C-32 clause by clause. Finally, the committee managed to
pass some 160 amendments.
This morning in Le Devoir, there is an article by Manon
Cornellier, under the heading “A Little Breathing Space”.
She supports the rebellion among the Liberal Party backbenchers,
in particular the six who dared to vote against their party line
last week. The government, with its 156 members, does not enjoy
a huge majority. So when six members form a separate group, it
puts the good Liberal government we have before us at some risk.
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I would like to quote a short paragraph about the dissident
members:
Liberal members have also targeted a number of bills. The first
one, Bill C-32, deals with the prevention of pollution by toxic
substances. The Standing Committee on the Environment, including
the Liberal members, has decided to provide real means of
action. The ministers that are more responsive—
Listen to that. This is really not serious, and we do not have a
very capable environment minister.
The ministers that are more responsive to the concerns of
industry did not appreciate that. They have forced the
environment minister to block the committee through a series of
amendments. As a result, 233 amendments of all kinds have been
introduced.
They have twisted the arm of the hon. member for Davenport, a
former environment minister.
We cannot help but conclude that the environment is not a
priority for the government of the hon. member for Saint-Maurice.
Our environment has four non-living elements: air, water, soil,
and light. When we speak about our children and their future, we
should at least pass on to them clean water, uncontaminated
soil, air that will not cause cancer to 5 or 6-year old children,
something that does occur in certain areas of this country.
The soil is under provincial jurisdiction.
With respect to the environment, Quebec is well ahead of even
the federal government, and of course all the other provinces.
Quebec is a leader on environmental matters.
In this regard the member for Lac-Saint-Louis, who headed the
environment ministry under Robert Bourassa in the 70s did a
pretty good job, I must admit, with the resources and the budget
he was allocated. He did a good job, and it must be said that in
Quebec we look after our land, not only sceptic tanks. We look
after our environment.
When we talk about the air and the water, we know we all breathe
the same air. We drink water. We also know water flows downhill,
not uphill.
If we could have a responsible world government that would deal
with water and air pollution, things might be better.
Light comes from the sun. We will deal with smog later on.
With regard to water, let us take the most visible example, the
St. Lawrence River. It is shared not only by two provinces, but
by two countries. The United States are largely contributing to
the pollution of the St. Lawrence River. It flows through
Montreal and the Gaspé. The effects of pollution on the food
chain are increasing visible as the member for Saint-Jean
mentioned. The fish we eat might make us very sick because of
the heavy metals, especially mercury, it contains.
We doubt the government is very serious about the environment.
The federal government is trampling over this field as it did
with the millennium scholarships. It was outside its
jurisdiction, but it got in through its spending power.
They even wanted to force our education minister to negotiate
with Jean Monty.
We told Jean Monty “Look after your employees instead”. Look
after you company, Bell Canada. If you have some spare time
left, go play golf, engage in PR activities, but do not get
involved in things in which you have no business, such as the
scholarships”. As members know, this is a provincial
jurisdiction.
Now, the government is duplicating structures in the
environmental sector. When the Canadian Constitution was signed
in 1867, the environment was not a priority. The 1867
Constitution is totally silent on jurisdictions, on the sharing
of powers regarding the environment. An agreement was reached
over the years.
Under that agreement, when specific issues concern more than one
province, the federal government is in charge, such as in the
case of hunting permits.
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If a person wants to go duck hunting, he or she will need to get
a permit from the post office. I know members are well aware of
that since migrating birds come under federal jurisdiction.
However, if a person wants to go partridge hunting, he or she
will need a provincial permit, because partridges stick to a
very small area.
Once again, the federal government is about to duplicate
existing structures, and the taxpayer always ends up paying
double. It is like the example I gave last week in the House,
with two agriculture ministers being responsible for the same
milk cow.
If the milk is processed or consumed locally, there are two
jurisdictions, but it is the same cow and the same producer. The
situation is similar here.
The Deputy Speaker: It is my duty, pursuant to Standing Order
38, to inform the House that the question to be raised tonight
at the time of adjournment is as follows: the hon. member for
Halifax West, Kosovo.
[English]
Ms. Louise Hardy (Yukon, NDP): Mr. Speaker, this
protection legislation is absolutely critical. Oftentimes in
committee we deal with immediate matters, but the environment
committee took on the responsibility for producing or refining
legislation that would truly protect our environment not just for
now but for the future.
The future is embodied in our children and their children, our
progeny for generations to come. We cannot fool ourselves into
thinking that as things stand they are just fine, and if we carry
on as we are there will be no repercussions. Every decision we
make should be in regard to how we want to protect our children
and their ability to live their lives to the fullest.
In 1997 there was an Arctic contaminants report which dealt with
persistent organic pollutants and the disproportionate effects of
these pollutants in the north. As they evaporate out of the
south in warmer climates where they are produced in more
industrial areas and move farther and farther north, they do not
evaporate. They sink into the environment in very high numbers,
causing extremely insidious and serious problems for the animals
and the people who live there.
After a six year study it was found that the level of
contaminants, and these include DDT, were extremely high in the
breast milk of indigenous peoples and other women who have lived
their lives in the north. There will be unusual infections;
exhaustion; tumours; a very high level of thyroid malfunction,
which does not sound like much until one has been someone who has
suffered from that; depression; and miscarriages.
What has come to light is not necessarily that there has to be a
particularly high level of the toxin, but it can be a level at
the time of exposure during a window of opportunity or a window
of exposure for contamination at a low level that can disrupt the
whole endocrine system and interfere with the development of the
thyroid.
As it happens, the level of children with attention deficit
disorders who also have thyroid problems is around 80%. They can
be hyperthyroid, which is overactive, and have all the problems
that come with it, or they can be hypothyroid, which can make
them very lethargic, apathetic and suffer from depression and the
ability to concentrate. Those are just different sides of the
same coin. Their bodies will actually resist the absorption of
any kind of thyroid hormone which regulates their whole metabolic
system, from their temperature to their thinking to their ability
to put a sentence together.
We are talking about the mental development of children who are
affected by low levels of toxins and low levels of toxins in
combination.
These are not unusual toxins that are only found in laboratories
or in very rare places. These are such things as nitrates,
things that are used to wash our clothes. A small and low level
dose at a certain time can be devastating on the life of a child
who is developing or a fetus that is developing.
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There is much we do not know and are responsible for. It is our
responsibility as legislators, as members of parliament, to make
sure we gather the information we need to make decisions which
will protect our environment. Over the last years the Liberal
government has withdrawn funding from study in the Arctic.
At present no universities have cold rooms. The University of
Alberta is actually reactivating its cold room. The rest of
universities have turned their cold rooms, which were places to
study the effects of colder areas, into storage areas.
Other circumpolar countries have scooped up our scientists just
because we would not fund the kind of research we need into the
effects of toxins and pollutants in the Arctic. Finland has
taken some of our premier scientists in the area of studying our
cold climate. The north forms a huge part of Canada and the rest
of Canada is a cold place as well. We need that research. We
need that knowledge which we have abandoned.
Our children are exposed to toxins through the wind and the air,
toxins that we have not produced in our country. The north is
disproportionately affected by them. Children are affected by
toxins in toys, gasoline fumes, food and the air we breathe. They
do not have the capacity to deal with them. Their bodies have
not developed enough strength to withstand the assault of toxins
from many different sources.
All of us can probably withstand some toxic exposure in small
amounts at certain times, but no one can withstand a constant
exposure from various areas when their immune systems have not
developed enough to deal with them.
The north is particularly vulnerable to toxins, but politically
it is particularly vulnerable because it is not well represented.
For the huge area of the north there are three members of
parliament and two senators. As it stands, neither of those
senators has lived in the north for over 20 years. It is kind of
tenuous to think of their connection with life in the north.
The biggest issue we need to deal with is hormone disrupting
toxins which are now rampant in our environment. On a personal
level, I do not let my sons drink milk out of plastic cartons any
more. I do not want to take the chance of what that could do to
their future or their ability to father children as they get
older.
As legislators we cannot let this pass by and think that someone
will take care of it. I find shocking that we would lessen the
health of our children and would not do everything we could as
legislators to make sure our environment is safe for our
children.
In closing, it is an incredible shame that closure was invoked
on this legislation because it is critical for our future and for
our children. The legislation was gutted shamelessly and we are
expected to applaud ineffectual legislation that is nothing more
than a whitewash when what Canadian citizens want is true,
enforceable environmental protection for our future and for our
children.
[Translation]
Mr. Pierre Brien (Témiscamingue, BQ): Mr. Speaker, I rise to
speak to Bill C-32 at report stage.
Given the number of amendments, one might well wonder why, in
the face of so much criticism, the government is bent on getting
the bill through before the House rises for the summer,
something which is scheduled for mid-June.
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There is something improvized about all this, despite the
drawn-out process, because the federal government has long wanted
to extend its jurisdiction over the environment.
On the face of it, no one will contest the fact that we must
take an interest in matters affecting the environment. Climatic
conditions that are changing quickly and the number of
devastating events related to different environmental conditions
raise questions about the causes of these phenomena and
particularly about what we must do to make up for all the damage
we have caused in recent years.
I am well placed to speak about this.
In my riding, in Rouyn-Noranda, we have made a signal change, and
a good thing, because living conditions were deteriorating very
rapidly until one day people decided to fight to improve their
environmental quality of life.
At the time, many stakeholders said that Noranda would shut down
but, today, on the contrary, it is alive and very well, and the
quality of life in Rouyn-Noranda has changed dramatically in 10
or 15 years.
We can therefore meet this environmental challenge if we roll up
our sleeves. Our businesses are also capable of adapting and
developing environmental technology before others do.
In areas where some employers now have a tendency to take undue
advantage of easy operating conditions, with very low
environmental standards, people will also, sooner or later, take
matters in their hands and demand better living conditions.
Obviously, there will be upward pressure on environmental
standards.
Since people's concern about this debate is increasing, the
federal government, which is suddenly acting more like a
business, sees in this some sort of opportunity to extend its
action into people's lives, ignoring the other actors that are
already there. In this case, the provinces have an important and
crucial role to play in the environment, which the federal
government seems to be ignoring increasingly, and very likely
with the consent of many provinces.
This is not the case for all the provinces, particularly Quebec,
which has greater aspirations than to remain a mere province.
Several provinces are abdicating their responsibility, but this
is not the case with Quebec, which aspires to much more.
In this bill, as in many other intrusions, the federal
government is extending its jurisdiction little by little. It
had the opportunity and has already done so many times in the
Criminal Code with respect to the environment, but it wants to
carry this even a little further with standards, objectives and
mostly, the need to honour international agreements or
international commitments made by Canada.
This illustrates a problem that was in the media in the last few
months for the provinces, and particularly for Quebec.
It is extremely frustrating to have someone speak and make
commitments on our behalf at the international level and then
ask us to fulfil them, when in many cases, Quebec and other
provinces were not allowed to take part as much as they would
have liked in the setting of the goals Canada has been promoting
at the world level.
The provinces were unable to directly take part in the
discussions or the negotiations, but in practice they are the
ones that have to manage the new initiatives without having had
the opportunity to set the parameters and the goals and to
develop an environmental strategy.
A lot of my constituents work in the pulp and paper and the
mining industries, two areas where environmental regulation is
extremely important. Meeting goals is not the main problem these
people have. They are faced with two kinds of problems.
They often have two sets of goals to meet. It is not always easy
to determine which set of regulations, the federal or the
provincial, takes precedence.
On the one hand, these people have to adjust to an environmental
context or to environmental standards that vary from one level
of government to the other, because there is always some kind of
overlap, whatever the substances involved.
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On the other hand, when we tell them how they can meet those
standards, it annoys them tremendously. We can tell them not to
go over so many parts per million of a given chemical, but they
should have sufficient latitude and flexibility to be able to
adapt approaches in the most competitive way possible.
We often see now Environment Canada or other departments go in
the field to tell people how to go about it, showing how one way
is better that the other, and all that slows the process down a
lot.
There is yet another greater danger to not taking care of the
environment. There is a danger of over bureaucratizing our
actions in that sector, making them slow and ineffective most of
the time.
The danger is often greater because in most of the provinces,
there will be two levels of bureaucracy that will try and expand
their role in the environment sector. We will eventually have to
face many rules, standards, and ways to meet them, a great deal
of confusion and difficulty for the businesses in meeting them,
and all sorts of legal challenges.
All this does not seem to bother the federal government too
much. The federal government no longer cares about respecting
jurisdictions. All that matters is that the commitments and
goals it will make and negotiate on the international scene be
met.
By the way, Canada has not taken a strong leadership on
environmental issues in recent years. It has not acted as a
leader in that area. Though it has taken an active part in
negotiations, this government cannot be considered as having
acted as a true leader in respect of environmental standards.
The same holds true for human rights.
Commercial interests took precedence over numerous concerns of
this government, which had taken the opposite stand when it was
on this side of the House, when the Progressive Conservatives
were in power. Ironically, there is a remarkable continuity on
some aspects of international trade: the positions held by one
party were adopted by the other as soon as it was elected.
What concerns me is the issue for which I am responsible,
federal-provincial relations.
We see here what we have seen on several other issues. The
recent framework agreement on social union was in the same vein:
provinces, in exchange for money that would allow them to
administer programs—which have nothing to do with the environment
in that case, but deal with health and other areas—accepted to
let the federal government play a greater part as a planner for
the whole of Canada.
It is also true for the environment, as we can see. Several
provinces are being very discrete, they say nothing, often
because their respective populations consider the federal
government as the true national government and wish to see it
fulfil that role. In Quebec, we have a completely different
view.
For Quebecers, be they federalists or sovereignists, the most
important government is the provincial one. It is the one
closest to them. It is the one they monitor the most; this has
its advantages and disadvantages, but it is good for democracy
that people keep a close eye on their government, and the people
of Quebec do exactly that.
This habit, this capacity to influence decisions are probably
greater there than they are here. It is a framework that
stakeholders know better. That government is much closer to the
people and can better satisfy its environmental needs and
expectations.
This trend will bring the federal government to play a greater
role. And this is only the beginning. The federal government
has one great quality, it is very patient.
Whenever it invades another jurisdiction, it does so very
progressively, but irreversibly. In the end, we see there is
not much provincial jurisdiction left.
In the environmental area, there is a great risk of the federal
government becoming the sole player because it is the one acting
on the international scene; it will implement international
agreements and commitments, it will define the regulations
developed by cabinet. These will not necessarily be passed by
the members, but rather by cabinet.
For all those reasons, we must oppose this bill, unless it is
substantially amended as my colleague proposed. Otherwise, we
will have to vote against this bill.
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Mrs. Francine Lalonde (Mercier, BQ): Madam Speaker, I am happy
to speak on this important legislation. Like my colleagues, I
want to commend the hon. member for Jonquière for her work and
the way she got many members involved in this important process.
It is not a surprise for the members of this House to see the
members of the Bloc Quebecois attack the jurisdictional
intrusion this legislation constitutes. Is it because we are
constantly concerned by the constitutional issue? No. If we feel
it is important for Quebec to keep the powers and the
flexibility it has as a government, it is for reasons of
efficiency.
It is too often forgotten here in Ottawa that it is not enough
to draft legislation or to speak on the environment to get
something concrete done. On the contrary, we have every reason
to fear the effects of this bill on the environment.
Let us recognize that an act whose enforcement and regulations
is left solely to the cabinet offers no guarantee to Quebecers
and Canadians, and for a very good reason. I remind members that
in a previous life I was the vice-president of a central labour
body and responsible for occupational safety and health. It is
not too far-fetched to compare both these domains.
In the case of occupational health and safety, which has been
associated with labour, had the privy council in London not
confirmed the provinces' jurisdiction in 1925, the federal
government would have had jurisdiction in this area. I do not
even dare imagine what it would have been like. Working in that
area made me understand that changes dealing with the
environment, both within and outside businesses, are made only
if businesses want to make such changes or if they are forced to
do so by a union.
Of course, inspectors will visit the workplace, which is
important, but the enforcement of such a law cannot depend
solely on inspectors. Since we are talking here about the whole
environment of businesses, what is needed is social involvement.
It is just an illusion to vote here in favour of a text, as
strong as it may be, thinking that we will change things simply
by giving this responsibility to the federal cabinet. To a
certain extent, it is like thinking that words, as strong as
they may be, are equivalent to real changes.
Making real changes in the environment requires clear
objectives. It requires co-operation from businesses and pressure
from the people. Without the latter, clear objectives will not
be set and things will not change within businesses. It also
requires co-operation from unions, from community groups and from
non-profit organizations. There is a whole social context
involved.
Where can this group, composed of those who can apply pressure,
best exert its influence? It is not at the federal government
level.
Protesting in front of a building here will not change what is
going on at Alcan, in Chicoutimi. Important changes have been
made.
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But if we look at history, it is the stakeholders, that is the
organizations, unions and journalists, who bring about change.
Quebec stakeholders are the most active and relentless, not only
when a bill is passed, but at all times. I have never seen
anything like it anywhere else in Canada.
The best proof of this is that this government was able to cut
42% of the environment's budget. Did we hear loud protests
because of the dangers of such cuts? No, because the greater the
distance between the legislation and those it may affect, the
greater the leeway available to those who will be able to exert
pressure and lobby.
The best way to effect change in the environment is by having
people take charge and exert pressure on the government that is
closest to them. I am proud of what the Government of Quebec has
done in many fields. There are other fields where much remains
to be done, but the Government of Quebec cannot change the way
the BAPE works without causing a general outcry. There is a
vigilance that could not be ensured otherwise.
We are deluding ourselves if we are thinking that by passing a
law, as strong as it may be, we can guarantee results and
change. This is why I regret so much that this bill is not
putting more emphasis on harmonization between governments and
is not allowing those who are more likely to push for change to
have their say. Instead of this, the federal government goes as
far as saying that, following negotiations with a provincial
government, and I quote clause 9(9):
No agreement made under this section shall limit or restrict the
carrying out of any action the Minister
—the federal minister, of course—
We can see what a lovely thing we have here. The minister goes
into a company and finds the levels too high. Come now.
It is most regrettable that this reform of the environment
legislation has given rise to what my colleague from Jonquière
will not feel it is an exaggeration to call a circus. The
environment is an extremely serious matter.
Canada is far from being a leader in this area, as we know. We
saw that in Kyoto, where it backtracked instead of advancing.
No one is sure that the new objectives set will be attained.
This bill is not a guarantee in any way whatsoever. The real
guarantee lies once again with the social, and to a certain
degree, the economic relationships that will develop.
This is a Quebec matter, unfortunately, but that is how it is.
It is totally illogical to believe that taking power from Quebec
will step up any pressure whatsoever to make the businesses,
groups and individuals responsible for the deterioration in the
environment change their ways.
I will close with a general remark. In this parliament, people
often have the impression that merely talking about something
and passing some legislative text will have a concrete effect on
reality.
However, we must ask ourselves how indeed we will be in a
position to bring about real change. The way to do it is not by
taking power from where it can be best exercised, under the
watchful eye of the people.
Mr. Yves Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières, BQ): Madam Speaker, I am very
pleased to take part in today's debate on Bill C-32, an act
respecting pollution prevention and the protection of the
environment and human health in order to contribute to
sustainable development.
It could not have come at a better time, and this is one of the
reasons I am interested in the debate.
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There is an important problem in my riding of Trois-Rivières with
regard to the National Defence Proof and Experimental Test
Establishment at Lake Saint-Pierre, where testing is conducted in
co-operation with SNC Industrial Technologies Inc. This proof and
experimental test establishment has been in existence for over
50 years, since 1947.
In this context, I would like to pay tribute to the people who
have been the engine and the soul of the movement known as the
lakeside residents' action group, set up in Pointe-du-Lac, namely
Messrs. Philippe Giroule and Jacques Brouillard, for their
tenacity and perseverance. They have been fighting for eight
years to expose the activities of the National Defence
Department in the Lake Saint-Pierre area, which activities of
course entail pollution and an attack on the lake's
extraordinary ecosystem.
I would just like to pay tribute to these people who have shown
great tenacity. They have lobbied diligently over the last eight
years to make both the federal and Quebec governments aware of
the problem.
Just as an indication, over eight years, they have had to deal
with five national defence ministers and five environment
ministers in the Government of Canada. This goes to show how
persevering they have been.
Personally, I had to get involved. On June 12, 1996, I proudly
presented a petition signed by 3,000 people who were condemning
the activities of the Department of National Defence regarding
this issue. I can say that the situation is changing.
As the name of that centre suggests, experiments and tests are
conducted on shells, both inside and outside the facility. It is
the activities taking place outside that pose a problem. They
literally shell Lake Saint-Pierre. A large number of these shells
are live. The shelling takes place in winter and summer. In the
summer, shells fall directly into the water and sink to the
bottom. In the winter, they stay on the ice. They either remain
there until the spring, when they sink to the bottom of the lake
or, and this is more worrisome in a way, the current can move
these shells hundreds of kilometres downstream.
This makes the whole issue even more problematic, because there
is increasing awareness regarding the cleaning and the safety
measures that are required.
A tragedy occurred in 1982. One person was killed and nine were
injured, when someone mistook a shell for a log to be used in a
bonfire, on Saint-Jean-Baptiste Day. The person tossed the shell
into the fire. The shell then exploded with the tragic
consequences I just mentioned. Other similar incidents could
occur. It is urgent that the government take action.
I want to pay tribute to the hon. member for Jonquière, who
dealt with this issue with great skill, along with the hon.
member for Joliette, who sits on the Standing Committee on
National Defence, to ensure that the federal government be
formally made aware of the situation.
This was done through the Standing Committee on the Environment.
The committee passed a resolution recommending to the government
that a moratorium be put in place effective January 1, 2000. We
personally would have preferred it be put in effect immediately.
It will be interesting to see whether this government has the
political will to put a stop to these activities.
It will be interesting to see how politics deal with this
resolution, which appears very positive and would be in public
interest.
The Department of National Defence must stop considering Lake
Saint-Pierre a garbage can. Lake Saint-Pierre is in fact an
extraordinary ecosystem. It has been recognized by the United
Nations, through UNESCO.
It is from this perspective it must be seen and not from that of
the Department of National Defence, as has been the case up to
now.
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I would also like to look at the very important question of Bill
C-32 from a constitutional perspective.
I, who consider myself an old and longstanding sovereignist,
consider Bill C-32 part of a new initiative and a new tack taken
by the federal government, which is weaving a canvas in which
the Canada of tomorrow, the Canada of the years 2000, the Canada
of the next century, will be a centralized and unitarian Canada
in which the provincial governments will become branch offices,
and, to use the term of my colleague opposite, the minister
responsible for regional development, partners that are no doubt
given better treatment than the hospitals, school boards and the
chambers of commerce, but partners all the same.
This is what the future holds for the Canadian provinces. As my
colleague from Témiscamingue said earlier, the federal
government acts very efficiently and slowly.
Slowly but surely, the federal government is spinning its web in
order to make sure that the decisions are made here and no
longer in Nova Scotia, Vancouver, or Toronto, and certainly not
in Quebec City, so that this country can be effective
internationally. It has no choice.
This is what Canada must do. It is what provincial governments
will probably have to recognize in provincial back rooms, but it
is a disaster for Quebec, which is a nation, to see the Canadian
government spinning its web to ensure that the decisions are
made here.
In the case of Bill C-32, it is not complicated, because the
federal government is forced to play its hand. We find this
political hand clearly set out in paragraph 9(1):
The Minister may negotiate an agreement with a government or
with an aboriginal people with respect to the administration of
this Act.
The reservation that will ensure that Canada will be
administered the way the federal government wants it to be
administered is to be found in paragraph 9(9), which reads as
follows:
No agreement made under this section shall limit or restrict the
carrying out of any action the Minister—
The federal minister, of course.
This is being done systematically, with the complicity, the
collaboration and the blessing of Canadian institutions, the
Canadian administrative structure, particularly the supreme
court, which handed down a ruling overturning decisions by
Quebec's courts, which recognized the supremacy of the
Government of Quebec with respect to the environment.
Historically, this was a shared jurisdiction, as recognized by
the Quebec courts and the courts of appeal. We now have the
supreme court telling us that, from now on, the federal
government will have ultimate jurisdiction in this area.
There was also the environment commissioner, who ruled, in
connection with pulp and paper, that, in the event of negligence
on the part of a province, the federal government had the last
word. The federal government is free to interfere in provincial
matters. The other provinces may feel this is a good thing. It
is a Canadian issue and concerns them.
In fact, if I were federalist, I would be as fond as
centralizing as Trudeau was. But this is quite upsetting to
Quebec as a nation.
This is not the first time that such an attempt is made. We have
to realize that. This is where the government machinery is
really efficient.
It happened recently in education, with the millennium
scholarship program, in a recognized area of provincial
jurisdiction.
It has also happened recently in the area of justice, with the
Young Offenders Act, a field where the province of Quebec is
doing exceptionally well and where it is now being told by the
federal government to move aside and implement the federal
policy, a more punitive policy than that of Quebec, where there
is a coalition in this area.
It has happened in the revenue area, where a Canada Customs and
Revenue Agency will soon offer to collect taxes on behalf of the
various levels of government, not only the federal government,
but also the provinces, the municipalities, and even to act on
behalf of private corporations that would want to use its
services.
This only goes to prove that here, in Ottawa, centralization is
still the main focus.
We regularly see the intrusion in the area of health care, where
the government of Quebec has taken some very innovative measures
that the federal government is now implementing by setting
national standards from coast to coast, without respecting
Quebec's precedence in this area of jurisdiction.
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Mr. Pierre de Savoye (Portneuf, BQ): Madam Speaker, I am pleased
to rise this afternoon to speak to this bill entitled Canadian
Environmental Protection Act, 1999.
I had the privilege—and I say privilege because it was quite an
experience, as you will soon understand—to be associated with
the standing committee on the environment, through my colleague,
the member for Jonquière. Since she was snowed under with work,
she asked me on a few occasions if I could replace her.
Being a member of the standing committee on natural resources,
you will understand that there is a certain relationship between
the work of these two committees with regard to the environment.
It is with pleasure that I took part in the work of the standing
committee on the environment.
I will say from the outset that I see two kinds of problems with
this bill. The first problem is excessive centralization on the
part of the federal government in an area of shared jurisdiction
between the federal state, the provinces and the state of
Quebec. The second problem concerns the intrinsic quality of the
bill.
We can ask ourselves a couple of questions. Is this a
good, solid and reliable bill with predictable consequences on
the environment, businesses and society? Have the various
measures been properly harmonized?
I will first talk about this issue regarding the quality of the
bill. As you know and as several of my colleagues mentioned, it
was an awesome task for the committee.
Indeed hundreds of amendments were introduced in committee.
My background is computer science. I am used to studying issues
in a structured and orderly manner, carefully analysing all the
consequences. I must say that to my amazement we went from one
amendment to the next in a helter-skelter way. It was crazy, not
stark crazy, but crazy enough.
I am smiling now, but there was nothing funny in all that. The
two and a half to three hours we spent skipping from one
amendment to the next was the most foolish experience I have
ever had.
Either the officials, the experts who should or could have
explained things to us, were not prepared to give us the
necessary information or someone somewhere was not really
willing to discuss these amendments. So for two and a half or
three hours, we merely went through all the amendments without
really studying them because we were not prepared.
At the end of these three hours, nothing had been accomplished.
Worse yet, we managed to strike down an amendment we had agreed
on at a previous meeting. We were going backward.
I realize these issues are complex. The bill touches on a great
many areas. It touches on land, water and air. It deals with all
kinds of pollutants, gaseous, liquid, solid, radioactive, living
or inert pollutants. It touches on energy issues.
It touches on shipping, road transportation. It touches on
everything.
In this respect one can admire the scope and the extent of
concerns this bill is trying to answer. Believe me, I cannot say
the bill does not raise the important environmental protection
issues we must deal with.
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This is not where the problem lies. The problem is that they
are being badly addressed. I am going to say something now that
may be a bit heavy-handed, but I feel it is very much to the
point.
I do not believe there is anyone in this House, in any
department, or in any of the specialized consulting firms, who
is in a position to tell us straight out all the ins and outs of
this bill, what the consequences will be, and what the good and
bad effects.
According to my perceptions, this is a highly complex bill, and
one which has not, unfortunately, received all the careful
attention it ought to have had in committee.
Not because my fellow MPs were not prepared to put the effort
into it, but simply because the work was carried out, directed,
supervised and disturbed in such a way that it was not possible
to do a proper, reliable job.
I believe I said this in committee, and I will repeat it here:
if a plane had been designed the way this bill was, no member of
this House and no public servant would dare set foot in it. It
would be too risky.
This is my perception of the situation we find ourselves in with
this bill I repeat, the environment is something precious.
This bill addresses areas that must be of great concern to us,
without resolving them. This is where the danger lies in
passing it.
The second important issue is the overcentralizing done by the
federal government through this legislation.
The minister, the cabinet, the government and the public
servants here in Ottawa will enjoy tremendous powers. They will
be the sole masters of a ship whose operating capability we do
not know. The problem is that they are taking us on board with
them. It would not be so bad if we could get off.
When two levels of government, that is a federal and a
provincial government, in this case Quebec, since this is where
I live, share responsibilities regarding the environment, it is
a good thing for them to co-ordinate their efforts. Bill C-32
could have the same effect as a steamroller.
Everything is provided in this bill so that the federal
government can have the upper hand regarding the environment. In
the context of globalization, Canada must, as a country, ratify
a number of international agreements and must therefore have the
powers to implement such agreements on its own territory.
However, the federal government does it against the will of all
those involved, by passing a bill that will give it such powers.
In Canada as we know it, there are big and small provinces, rich
and not so rich provinces, provinces that would like Ottawa to
take responsibilities on their behalf and others that prefer to
assume these responsibilities themselves.
The bill does not respect that principle.
This is why the Bloc Quebecois cannot support it. The
environment would be much better served and protected by those
directly concerned. Then, arrangements could be made with our
neighbours.
In short, the bill must be rejected for two reasons. First, it
is bad legislation. Second, it does not respect the way the
federation should work under the Constitution.
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Mrs. Pauline Picard (Drummond, BQ): Madam Speaker, I would,
right off, like to thank my colleague from Jonquière, who has
worked so hard and with such determination to do her job as
legislator on this committee. She has given us a very
enlightened version of the events surrounding this bill. I would
like to thank her for having shown us the negative effects of
this bill.
I would like to speak of the elements of Bill C-32 that relate to
health, more specifically toxic substances.
On May 27, the federal government announced with great pomp
funding of $10.9 million for research on toxic substances, as
part of the toxic substance research initiative.
This organization has a budget of $40 million. It is a program
that is intended to consolidate the means the federal government
has at its disposal in health sciences and the environment. This
has to last three years. During fiscal year 1999-2000, the
Liberal government will fund 81 research projects in areas of
research that are a priority for the toxic substance research
initiative.
It was high time. I think the government has to be consistent
when it looks out for the national welfare of its citizens. This
government has been dragging its feet on environmental research,
toxic substances found in water, in the air and in soil.
It asks no questions as to what is happening, why new diseases
are developing and why more and more people have problems with
asthma and younger people increasingly have allergies.
There is an increase in breast cancer. It used to be that
breast cancer occurred primarily among post-menopausal women over
fifty. Now it is occurring even in young women. Some questions
are in order.
I know that there is private research into these questions going
on in certain laboratories. Is it the air we breathe, the food
we eat, or toxic substances on our planet?
Finally, with much ceremony, the government announces that
grants will be handed out. Of course, I am in favour of grants
so that scientists can conduct research into toxic substances,
but people will agree it is perhaps a bit late. Better late
than never, but this government, which calls itself responsible,
should have given these grants sooner.
We have been hearing about this kind of research and grants
since 1993 and suddenly, on May 27, when they are about to
introduce Bill C-32, they tell us they are going to increase
grants and give the Centre de recherche sur les substances
toxiques $10 million. That is why we are saying it was high
time.
While introducing Bill C-32, they announce grants. Might this
not be an attempt to help the medicine go down, or silence
certain growing criticisms of the federal government in this
area?
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The federal government is apportioning this $40 million out over
three years in order to make several announcements. As I was
saying, with the good old federal government, national research
and the support of clinical research for our scientists that
might help us and thus prevent these increases in diseases is
not free.
I am sure, Madam Speaker, that you and other members of the
House know people who have friends or family members suffering
from breast cancer. We have such people among our colleagues.
The scientists are more and more convinced that the source is
the air we breathe or the food we eat.
My colleague from Saint-Jean has just referred to some studies of
the Inuit in the far north where mercury was found in breast
milk. What effect will this have on a child's health? Where
does this mercury come from? It seems to me one does not have
to be a rocket scientist to figure it out.
That is why we are saying it is high time. Why turn this into
something political, protecting their backsides because they
were incapable of presenting any sensible kind of bill? This
bill is inconsistent. Why did they not present us with a proper
policy to address the harmful effects of toxic substances? This
bill has been under study for months and now there are in excess
of 500 amendments.
If it had been some other party that came up with such a bill,
the Liberals would have been as scandalised as we. Why not
start again from scratch? There is nothing wrong with that.
As a number of my colleagues have concluded, one may conclude
from this that the government is trying to get its hands on more
power. In the context of globalization, we know it needs powers
that it does not have at the present time. In order to be sure
it gets them, it will present us with bills regardless of what
amendments we have proposed. That is what they always do, and
it is scandalous, with the pretext that it is good governance
and in the interests of national safety.
We on this side of the House are nobody's fools. When one sees
the highly centralist nature of this bill, one may well ask some
questions.
Let me provide a little background on Bill C-32. It was
introduced at first reading on March 12, 1998, to replace the
Canadian Environmental Protection Act. This tactic by the Liberal
government is another move towards excessive centralization.
The Liberals' approach is to do what they said they would in the
September 1997 throne speech. They are relentlessly interfering
in areas of provincial jurisdiction. In so doing, they are
showing their contempt for provincial jurisdictions when it
comes to the environment.
This is unacceptable when the health of people is at stake. We
needed a bill that would have finally put a stop to the arrival
of new diseases from everywhere. As I said earlier, we are
constantly confronted with new health problems. It is our
children who must grow up in that environment.
The Bloc Quebecois, understandably, cannot support this bill,
which should be immediately withdrawn.
The Deputy Speaker: Is the House ready for the question?
Some hon. members: Question.
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[English]
The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to order made on Thursday,
May 27, the questions on the motions in Group No. 6 are deemed
put and the recorded divisions are deemed requested and deemed
deferred.
The House will now proceed to the debate on the motions in Group
No. 7.
Mr. Bill Gilmour (Nanaimo—Alberni, Ref.) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 56, be amended by replacing line 10 on
page 35 with the following:
“176.1(1) applies, provided the Minister has been authorized by
the Governor in Council by virtue of paragraph 166(3)(a) or
176(3)(a) to publish that notice.”
Mr. Rick Laliberte (Churchill River, NDP) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 116, be amended by adding after line
26 on page 87 the following:
«substance à effet de perturbation du système hormonal»
““hormone disrupting substance” means a substance having the
ability to disrupt the synthesis, secretion, transport, binding,
action or elimination of natural hormones in an organism, or its
progeny, that are responsible for the maintenance of homeostasis,
reproduction, development or behaviour of the organism.”
Mr. Bill Gilmour (Nanaimo—Alberni, Ref.) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 118, be amended
“118. (1) The Governor in Council may, on the”
“(2) The Governor in Council shall not make a regulation under
this Division in respect of nutrients if, in the opinion of the
Governor in Council, the regulation regulates an aspect of
nutrients that is regulated by or under any other Act of
Parliament in a manner that provides, in the opinion of the
Governor in Council, sufficient protection to the environment and
human health.”
Hon. Christine Stewart (Minister of the Environment,
Lib.) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 118, be amended
“118. (1) The Governor in Council may, on the”
(b) by replacing, in the English version, line 8 on page 88 with
the following:
“of a process of degrading or altering, an”
(c) by adding after line 32 on page 88 the following:
“(2) The Governor in Council shall not make a regulation under
subsection (1) in respect of a nutrient to the extent that the
nutrient, or a product in which the nutrient is contained, is, in
the opinion of the Governor in Council, regulated by or under any
other Act of Parliament in a manner that provides, in the opinion
of the Governor in Council, sufficient protection to the
environment.”
That Bill C-32, in Clause 166, be amended by replacing line 24
on page 121 with the following:
Mr. John Herron (Fundy—Royal, PC) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 166, be amended by replacing line 24
on page 121 with the following:
Mr. Bill Gilmour (Nanaimo—Alberni, Ref.) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 166, be amended by replacing line 24
on page 121 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 176, be amended by replacing lines 16
to 20 on page 128 with the following:
Mr. John Herron (Fundy—Royal, PC) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 176, be amended by replacing line 18
on page 128 with the following:
Hon. Christine Stewart (Minister of the Environment, Lib.)
moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 176, be amended by replacing line 18
on page 128 with the following:
Mr. Bill Gilmour (Nanaimo—Alberni, Ref.) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 176, be amended by replacing line 18
on page 128 with the following:
Ms. Jocelyne Girard-Bujold (Jonquière, BQ) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 185, be amended by adding after line
35 on page 134 the following:
“(1.1) The Governor in Council shall, by order, exempt from the
application of subsection (1) any person who imports into,
exports to or conveys in transit to a province substances
described in subsection (1) where an Act of the legislature of
the province is in force that governs the movement of such
substances.”
Mr. John Herron (Fundy—Royal, PC) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 188, be amended by replacing line 2 on
page 136 with the following:
Mr. Bill Gilmour (Nanaimo—Alberni, Ref.) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 188, be amended by replacing lines 2
and 3 on page 136 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 188, be amended by replacing line 4 on
page 136 with the following:
Hon. Charles Caccia (Davenport, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I
will address very briefly Motions Nos. 185 and 193, and then the
motion on nutrients, and put these reservations forward for your
attention.
The amendments regarding international air and water pollution
again would require the Minister of the Environment to go to
cabinet before making a decision on the subject of international
air and water pollution or pollution that may result in another
country because of activities in Canada.
These motions require the environment minister to go to cabinet
before requiring a person to prepare and implement a pollution
prevention plan, yet pollution prevention is in the title of this
legislation. Therefore, one would expect that powers would be
included in the bill for the health and environment ministers to
request plans in serious cases of possible pollution.
International pollution is clearly a role for the federal
Minister of the Environment, which one would expect industry to
support considering industry's claims in favour of pollution
prevention planning. Why then does industry lobby for a further
obstacle and delay? Why does industry lobby for imposing a
further delay on this rather important step?
The official government explanation for this last minute change
to remove this power from the minister and give it to the cabinet
is that these changes are there because they are normal, given
the international dimension of these issues. The government
explanation goes on to say that the involvement of the governor
in council, namely cabinet, is normal.
Who raised this concern? It was the lobby groups representing
chemical production, petroleum, steel and other industries. We
have several letters from these groups asking for this amendment,
almost word for word.
Second, putting this power squarely in the hands of the federal
environment minister should not be described as unilateral, as
some have done. Rather, it is a necessary ministerial power.
Third, the involvement of cabinet in a new measure in Bill C-32,
namely, the power of the environment minister to require a person
to prepare and implement a pollution prevention plan under
certain circumstances, cannot be explained as normal. It is
clearly the role of the Minister of the Environment to take
preventive actions. Where there is a case of a potential
Canadian source polluting United States air or water, citizens of
the other country would expect prompt action to be taken to
prevent that pollution. Motions Nos. 185 and 193 will eliminate
the possibility of prompt preventive action by the Minister of
the Environment and send the decision to cabinet where other
ministers hold diverging views. It is difficult to see why such
discussions are necessary unless the objective is to create
delays and possibly bring considerations other than the
protection of the environment and human health to the table.
It is important to note in the context of Motions Nos. 185 and
193 that these proposals were not made during the long and
detailed study in committee. It should also be noted that these
motions were requested by industry lobby groups in the weeks
following our committee study and deliberations. Finally, it
should be noted that the Reform Party has proposed amendments
similar to Motions Nos. 185 and 193.
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For all of these reasons, regretfully, I will have to vote
against these two motions.
On the question of nutrients, Motion No. 154 comes like a bolt
from the blue. It is brand new. It was not mentioned. It was
not proposed in committee. It was not proposed by any witness
before the committee nor in the clause by clause deliberations.
Yet it has appeared in the name of the Minister of the
Environment. A very similar amendment miraculously appeared in
the name of the Reform Party as well.
The effect of the amendment, if passed, would be this. As an
example, the Minister of the Environment could no longer prevent
the pollution of water by certain nutrients. The Minister of
Agriculture and Agri-Food could say “I have the power to prevent
pollution by nutrients in water”. Cabinet would then decide if
the power of the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food was
sufficient. The Minister of the Environment would no longer have
a role to play. The public would have no knowledge of how this
decision came about because, as we all know, cabinet discussions
and decisions are secret.
Who would decide whether the regulations which fall under the
purview of the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food provide
sufficient protection? In the case of the Minister of
Agriculture and Agri-Food, for example, his mandate is at best a
mixed mandate, namely, promoting food production, farmers'
interests, the protection of soil and, at the same time,
promoting the industries that produce pesticides, fertilizers and
nutrients. On whose side will the minister be?
To put it in other terms, in this case and in other parts of
Bill C-32 that the committee did not succeed in amending, there
is pattern. The pattern is that ministers, who do not have as
their chief mandate the protection of the environment and human
health, have sufficient powers to decide: one, what is
sufficient protection of the environment and human health and
what it means, and two, whether a certain standard provided in
the regulations of a minister, other than the Minister of the
Environment, is the determining and final factor.
Unfortunately, this amendment will have the net effect of giving
powers to a minister, other than the Minister of the Environment
or the Minister of Health, to make a decision as to what is
sufficient protection.
That is an example of how this bill is being weakened at report
stage. It is a very regrettable development because in the end
it will be at the expense of public health and the quality of
water and air. I hope it is not proceeded with at report stage
tonight.
[Translation]
Ms. Jocelyne Girard-Bujold (Jonquière, BQ): Mr. Speaker, I am
pleased to rise following the member for Davenport. Group No. 7
contains 15 motions.
I will summarize the position of the Bloc Quebecois with respect
to these motions. We oppose Motion No. 53 by the member for
Nanaimo—Alberni, which concerns clause 56 and deals with the
requirement for pollution prevention plans.
With Motion No. 53, and Motion No. 153 to amend clause 118, the
Reform Party is transferring to the governor in council the
responsibilities of the Minister of the Environment in the
publication of notices to implement a prevention plan for a
substance or a group of substances.
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Once again, with these amendments, the Reform Party is
attempting to limit the action of the Minister of the Environment
in matters concerning the environment.
I will now address Motion No. 187, which also originates with
the Reform Party and seeks to amend clause 166 of the current
bill, dealing with international air pollution. We oppose this
motion. We also oppose Motion No. 191, which concerns clause 176
on international water pollution.
With these motions, the Reform Party is once again trying to put
the responsibility of the Minister of the Environment in the
hands of the governor in council.
I share the view of the member for Davenport, who opposes this
practice, since we know that Cabinet proceedings are kept
secret.
When we ask this government, or other governments that will
succeed it, I hope, in the future, “Why”, they will say “We
cannot answer you. This is a matter for Cabinet and it is
confidential and secret”.
I am surprised to see the Reform Party doing this. I would had
never thought that it would go so far in order to fight the
powers that a minister responsible for a matter must have with
respect to pollution, which affects such vital areas.
There is also Motions Nos. 201, 202 and 203 with respect to
clause 188, also moved by a member of the Reform Party, which
would remove the words “non-hazardous waste” from the plan for
reducing imports and which excludes waste exported from the
United States. Yet, we know that the vast majority of our export
trade is with the United States.
It is essential that there be a plan for compliance with the
regulations and that it be enforced. What is going on? Are
people going to be allowed to do as they please with hazardous
waste? Are they going to import and export such waste freely,
because nobody will be required to have plans and regulations
any more? It will be anarchy. Is that what the Reform Party
member wants? I object and I hope that all members of the House
will object.
I turn now to Motion No. 151 moved by the NDP member for
Churchill River to amend clause 116 with respect to nutrients by
adding “hormone disrupting substance”. Clause 43 already
defines hormone disrupting substance. Why have redundancy
within the bill? There is enough confusion as it is. I can
understand why this would be interesting for people in the legal
profession. This bill will no doubt lead to lawsuits.
I am going to speak about Motion No. 154, with respect to clause
118, and Motion No. 185 with respect to clause 116, moved by the
Minister of the Environment. They are along the same lines as
the motions moved by the Reform Party member.
I cannot understand why the Minister of the Environment is
bringing in amendments that will limit her powers. This one
will take away her own power to act under the legislation.
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She is limiting her actions and, on top of that, she is asking
for the agreement of the governor in council and recommending
that he give her permission. My goodness, this motion is more
than just nebulous, it is unacceptable.
Let us also look at Motion No. 186 with respect to clause 166.
We are also opposed to this motion, because it goes along the
same lines as the one I have just addressed. It puts the
responsibility of the Minister of the Environment onto the
governor in council.
Then there is Motion No. 192 to amend clause 176. This
amendment would have the minister report to governor in council.
It being along the same lines, we also object to it.
We presented Motion No. 198 to amend clause 185 as an addition
to the section on import, export and movement of hazardous waste
and other substances. We want a sub-clause (1.1) to be added,
which would read as follows:
This motion would do away with the duplication in the
application of this provision and would do away with all the
confusion for people, who do not know whether the federal or the
provincial legislation applies. We have plenty of duplication
already. Enough, now some very positive action must be taken.
[English]
Ms. Paddy Torsney (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of the
Environment, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, this afternoon a number of
points have been raised in speaking to this group of motions and
comments earlier.
I want to draw members' attention to the fact that the
Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development was a
position created by the government in 1995. It was mentioned by
one of the NDP members that government after government has been
ignoring the recommendations of the Commissioner of the
Environment and Sustainable Development. That position was
created by the government.
Criticisms of the commissioner laid against the government for
its actions are addressed in this bill. If that is the concern,
members should support Bill C-32. Twenty three thousand
substances must be examined. There are strict time lines in the
CEPA legislation. Pollution prevention is enshrined in the
legislation. This is what the commissioner told us; this is what
the bill is doing.
Let us talk about some other motions before us at the present
time. The BQ want to exempt waste provisions from Bill C-32 from
applying to the provinces that have legislation governing the
movement of waste. Once again the Bloc Quebecois is attempting
to rewrite the Constitution by stripping the federal government's
jurisdiction over Canada's international borders and
interprovincial trade. Canada has international commitments
under the Basel convention relating to the transboundary movement
of hazardous waste. Bill C-32 is necessary to ensure that Canada
meets those obligations.
PC and Reform motions have been proposed to exclude shipments of
waste destined for disposal, including hazardous waste, to the
United States from requirements for export reduction plans. Let
us be clear. Bill C-32 provides the authority to require
exporters of waste that is being shipped for disposal to prepare
and implement export reduction plans. The PC and Reform parties
want to exempt any shipments to the United States from these
requirements. The fact is that Canada since 1985 has not shipped
hazardous waste for disposal to any country other than the United
States. The PC and Reform Party motions therefore would nullify
this authority.
This means that Canada would not be able to meet its obligations
under the Basel convention. It also contradicts the pollution
prevention principle, the thrust of this bill. We do want to
prevent pollution and the generation of waste so it does not have
to be shipped to the United States.
One of the motions before us today is a regulation rollover
motion, Motion No. 233. There are 24 regulations under the
existing CEPA. These regulations cover a wide variety of toxic
substances and pollutants.
They have eliminated the use of lead in gasoline. They have
banned substances from the earth's ozone layer such as CFCs. They
have reduced by 99% the amount of harmful dioxins and furans in
pulp and paper effluent. These are good things.
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To proclaim the new act into force all these regulations would
have to conform to the provisions of Bill C-32. The government
is working on this task to ensure early proclamation following
royal assent of this legislation.
To address unforeseen circumstances that might delay the
rollover of the regulations or that would create a regulatory
gap, government Motion No. 233 proposes the addition of a clause
that would allow any provisions of the regulations inconsistent
with Bill C-32 to continue in force for two years from the date
of royal assent.
Let us talk about PC Motion No. 214 to alter the residual clause
in part 9. Let us be clear. Provincial government environmental
regulations do not apply to the federal government. Because of
this situation CEPA provides authority to regulate federal
operations and lands. One of the shortcomings of the existing
CEPA identified by the Standing Committee on Environment and
Sustainable Development in its 1995 report “It's About Our
Health!” is that environmental protection regulations that apply
to the federal House require the concurrence of the affected
minister.
As a result of this requirement for concurrence, the amount of
activity under this part of CEPA has been limited. Bill C-32
removes this requirement for concurrence. The effect of this PC
motion would be to reinsert a requirement for concurrence since
there may be instances where the affected minister might not
agree that CEPA is the best vehicle for action. Based on past
experience this could result in delay and deadlock, something the
members opposite have said they do not want. Since part 9 covers
all federal departments and operations this decision making is
appropriate in the hands of the governor in council and not just
a small group of ministers.
This will probably be the last speech from this side on this
piece of legislation on the report stage motions before us. I
urge all hon. members, if they want this bill passed, if they
want this bill to do the right thing for the environment, if they
want to give the federal government the tools to make a
difference for today and for future generations, support the
changes being proposed by the government. CEPA can do the job to
prevent pollution from occurring in the first place. It will
enable us to deal with regulating toxic substances in our country
and to virtually eliminate those deadly substances that none of
us want.
Nine out of ten are already eliminated in Canada, things like
DDT, but we are still seeing the effect in breast milk, in the
arctic and in other places. We will have to do better. This
bill will allow us to do better.
Mr. Clifford Lincoln (Lac-Saint-Louis, Lib.): Mr.
Speaker, we have a few minutes before the bells ring for a vote.
I rise on a point of order regarding Motions Nos. 230 and 231
which have been twinned for the purposes of voting. Mr. Speaker,
I submit to you for consideration that the twinning of these two
motions is completely out of order and should be reviewed. The
vote should be split on the two motions. On looking at clauses
342 and 343 of the bill you will see that Motions Nos. 230 and
231 have two completely different purposes and have nothing to do
with each other.
Motion No. 230, which refers to clause 342 of the bill, brings
in a technical change. The clause says “the minister shall as
soon as possible after the end of the fiscal year prepare and
cause to be laid before parliament a report” et cetera. All the
motion does is to say “before each House of Parliament” instead
of “parliament”. It is purely a technical change.
Motion No. 231 brings in a very important substantive change
which I suggest might even be a precedent before parliament. I
cannot be 100% sure. It adds the notion that the review to be
conducted by the House can be by the committee of the House of
Commons or both houses of parliament. It has introduced a new
notion under Motion No. 231 that it could be the committee of the
House of Commons, or of the Senate. The review could be carried
out either by the committee of the House of Commons or the
committee of the Senate. It would be a great irony that a law of
the Parliament of Canada could be sent for review to the
committee of the Senate without being sent to the committee of
the House of Commons.
1810
Therefore I suggest that the two motions have nothing to do one
with the other. We should not twin the vote because voting in
the affirmative on Motion No. 230 which many members agree with
100%, and I would say the whole House would probably agree with
it, there is nothing wrong with it, then negates the vote on
Motion No. 231 which refers to a very substantive change in the
clause as it is written in the bill.
Mr. Speaker, I would like you to take this into consideration.
Please split the two votes and take them separately.
Hon. Charles Caccia (Davenport, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I
rise on the same point of order. I wish to express full support
for the argument just advanced by the member for Lac-Saint-Louis
and to indicate to you, Mr. Speaker, that his advocacy for the
splitting of the vote on these two motions would be in the best
interests of the House and of the parliamentary process.
Mr. Rick Laliberte (Churchill River, NDP): On the same
point of order, Mr. Speaker, I believe the integrity of the
Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development and
the thorough work it did on Bill C-32 would be jeopardized on a
five year cycle review. All this could be left to the other
place. I believe the House of Commons should keep its integrity
and keep the standing committee's integrity for this is truly the
work of elected parliamentarians.
The Deputy Speaker: I will take the matter under
advisement. The voting will begin shortly. Just before the
voting begins I will notify the House of the decision in this
regard. I thank hon. members for their intervention. The hon.
member for Churchill River has the floor.
Mr. Rick Laliberte (Churchill River, NDP): Mr. Speaker, I
would like to speak in the remaining moments of the debate. As we
all know, debate is limited. This is environment week. It would
have been nice to debate Bill C-32 for the whole week but we are
restricted to just two more minutes.
I want to get the attention of the government and the
parliamentary secretary who boldly stated that the commissioner
of environment was created by the Liberal government and in
essence that the actions will be taken.
Ontario is number one at importing toxic waste. We can take
that as a fact. Ontario is a large industrial province. It is
also number one in North America. It is not just number one in
Canada, it is in North America on importing of toxic waste. The
Americans have worked hard under the EPA system to strengthen and
enforce their regulatory system under the environment and waste
rules. All these industries have found a safe haven in Ontario.
It is the fault of the Ontario government and the federal
government. They have not taken care of a gaping responsibility
in terms of toxic waste in this province and the country.
We have talked about harmonization of provincial and federal
responsibilities. There are great gaps as opposed to overlaps, as
the minister has addressed.
I want to highlight in retrospect all these amendments that come
into play. Cost effectiveness and the phase-out of toxins in
the country are now being eliminated in the preamble. Phase-out
is a major component of pollution prevention.
Bill C-32 should be renamed as an act allowing the pollution of
the environment and risking human health to ensure unsustainable
development so the finance minister can balance his budget and
the polluters can poison our bodies, our children, our future and
our fortunes.
The Deputy Speaker: I am sorry to interrupt the hon.
member but it being 6.15 p.m. it is my duty pursuant to order
made earlier this day to interrupt the proceedings and pursuant
to order made on Thursday, May 27, 1999 to deem the outstanding
motions to have been duly moved and seconded and the divisions
deemed demanded and deferred.
Mr. John Herron (Fundy—Royal, PC) moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 210, be amended
“210. Where the Ministers and, where appropriate, the minster
responsible for the other Act of Parliament in question, are of”
Hon. Christine Stewart (Minister of the Environment, Lib.)
moved:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 342, be amended by replacing line 35
on page 216 with the following:
That Bill C-32, in Clause 343, be amended by replacing lines 44
to 47 on page 216 and lines 1 to 8 on page 217 with the
following:
(2) The
committee designated or established for the purpose of subsection
(1) shall, as soon as practicable, undertake a comprehensive
review of the provisions and operation of this Act and shall,
within one year after the review is undertaken or within such
further time as the House of Commons, the Senate or both Houses
of Parliament, as the case may be, may authorize, submit a report
to Parliament thereon,”
That Bill C-32 be amended by adding after line 29 on page 219
the following new clause: 355.1 (1) Subject to subsection (2),
any regulation that was (a) made under the Act mentioned in
section 355, and (b) in force immediately before the day on which
this Act is assented to is deemed to have been made under this
Act, and continues in force, subject to being amended or repealed
under this Act.
(2) If a regulation continued in force by subsection (1) is not
consistent with this Act at the end of the two-year period that
starts on the day on which this Act is assented to, that
regulation ceases to be in force at the end of that period.”
The Deputy Speaker: Call in the members.
1835
And the bells having rung:
The Deputy Speaker: Order, please. The Chair would
like to respond to a point of order raised by the hon. member for
Lac-Saint-Louis.
The voting pattern distributed earlier today indicated that the
that the vote on Motion No. 230 would apply to Motion No. 231.
After hearing the representations of the hon. members for
Lac-Saint-Louis, Churchill River and Davenport, the Chair is
satisfied that Motions Nos. 230 and 231 are sufficiently
different that a separate vote on each would be in order.
Therefore after the vote on Motion No. 230, a recorded division
shall be taken on Motion No. 231.
The question is on Motion No. 1. A negative vote on Motion No.
1 requires the question to be put on Motions Nos. 2 and 3.
1845
(The House divided on Motion No. 1, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Epp
|
Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
| Gouk
|
Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
|
Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
|
Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
|
Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Solberg
|
Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
|
White
(North Vancouver) – 45
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 1 defeated.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order.
I believe you would find consent to apply the results of the vote
just taken to the following: Motions Nos. 13, 71, 87, 130, 132,
206, 6, 137, 10, 18, 38, 53, 153, 191 and 201.
Mr. John Duncan: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order.
I was not present for the last vote. I would like to vote in the
affirmative to this motion.
The Deputy Speaker: So ordered. Is there agreement to
proceed in the fashion outlined by the chief government whip?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Howard Hilstrom: Mr. Speaker, on this series of
motions I would like to have my vote recorded as no.
The Deputy Speaker: So ordered. Subject to that
exception and to the other addition, is it agreed that we proceed
as indicated by the chief government whip?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
(The House divided on Motion No. 13, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 71, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 87, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 130, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 132, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 206, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 6, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 137, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 10, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 18, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 38, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 53, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 153, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 191, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 201, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Cadman
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Cummins
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Obhrai
| Penson
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| Strahl
| Vellacott
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 46
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Brien
| Brison
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 191
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motions Nos. 13, 71, 87,
130, 132, 206, 6, 137, 10, 18, 38, 53, 153, 191 and 201 defeated.
As a result Motions Nos. 135, 16, 47 and 187 are also defeated.
The next question is on Motion No. 2. A negative vote on Motion
No. 2 requires the question to be put on Motion No. 3.
1850
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order.
If the House would agree, I would propose that you seek unanimous
consent that members who voted on the previous motion be recorded
as having voted on the motion now before the House, with Liberal
members voting yea, with the exception of the members for
Davenport, Lac-Saint-Louis and York North who wish to vote nay.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote yes, unless instructed otherwise by their
constituents.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members will vote against the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members in the House
this evening vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
vote no to the motion.
[English]
Hon. Charles Caccia: Mr. Speaker, just to register with
you for certainty, my vote is in the negative.
The Deputy Speaker: There were three votes registered in
the negative: the hon. member for Davenport, the hon. member for
Lac-Saint-Louis and the hon. member for York North from the
government list. I believe that clarifies the position.
(The House divided on Motion No. 2, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brown
| Bryden
|
Bulte
| Byrne
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casson
| Catterall
|
Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Dromisky
|
Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
| Easter
|
Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
|
Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
| Godfrey
|
Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
|
Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
|
Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
|
Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
Stinson
| St - Julien
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
|
Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 182
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brien
| Brison
|
Caccia
| Casey
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Earle
| Gagnon
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Guimond
|
Hardy
| Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Lill
| Lincoln
| Loubier
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
| Muise
| Nystrom
|
Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
| Proctor
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
|
Stoffer
| Vautour
| Venne
– 55
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 2 carried.
The next question is on Motion No. 14.
[Translation]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I think you will find unanimous
consent that those members who voted on the previous motion be
recorded as having voted on the motion now before the House.
Liberal members will vote yes, with the exception of the hon.
members for Davenport, Lac-Saint-Louis and York North, who will
vote no.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed in
this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
[English]
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members will vote against the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present this
evening vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
vote no to the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 14, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brown
| Bryden
|
Bulte
| Byrne
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casson
| Catterall
|
Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Dromisky
|
Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
| Easter
|
Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
|
Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
| Godfrey
|
Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
|
Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
|
Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
|
Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
Stinson
| St - Julien
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
|
Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 182
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brien
| Brison
|
Caccia
| Casey
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Earle
| Gagnon
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Guimond
|
Hardy
| Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Lill
| Lincoln
| Loubier
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
| Muise
| Nystrom
|
Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
| Proctor
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
|
Stoffer
| Vautour
| Venne
– 55
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 14 agreed to.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find
consent to apply the results of the vote just taken to Motions
Nos. 7 and 8.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
1855
(The House divided on Motion No. 7, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brown
| Bryden
|
Bulte
| Byrne
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casson
| Catterall
|
Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Dromisky
|
Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
| Easter
|
Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
|
Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
| Godfrey
|
Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
|
Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
|
Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
|
Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
Stinson
| St - Julien
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
|
Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 182
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brien
| Brison
|
Caccia
| Casey
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Earle
| Gagnon
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Guimond
|
Hardy
| Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Lill
| Lincoln
| Loubier
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
| Muise
| Nystrom
|
Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
| Proctor
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
|
Stoffer
| Vautour
| Venne
– 55
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 8, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brown
| Bryden
|
Bulte
| Byrne
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casson
| Catterall
|
Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Dromisky
|
Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
| Easter
|
Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
|
Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
| Godfrey
|
Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
|
Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
|
Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
|
Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
Stinson
| St - Julien
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
|
Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 182
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brien
| Brison
|
Caccia
| Casey
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Earle
| Gagnon
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Guimond
|
Hardy
| Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Lill
| Lincoln
| Loubier
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
| Muise
| Nystrom
|
Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
| Proctor
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
|
Stoffer
| Vautour
| Venne
– 55
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motions Nos. 7 and 8
carried.
[Translation]
The question is on Motion No. 26. The question on this motion
also applies to Motion No. 83.
[English]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order.
If the House would agree, I would propose that you seek unanimous
consent that members who voted on the previous motion be recorded
as having voted on the motion now before the House, with Liberal
members voting nay, with the exception of the member for York
North who would like to vote yea.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent of the
House to proceed in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members vote yes to the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present in the
House this evening vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
vote yes on the motion.
[English]
Hon. Charles Caccia: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of
order. I would like to register a vote in the affirmative to
the motion.
Mr. Clifford Lincoln: Mr. Speaker, I vote yes to the
motion.
[Translation]
(The House divided on Motion No. 26, which was negatived on the
following division: )
YEAS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brien
| Brison
|
Caccia
| Casey
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Earle
| Gagnon
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Guimond
|
Hardy
| Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Lill
| Lincoln
| Loubier
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
| Muise
| Nystrom
|
Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
| Proctor
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
|
Stoffer
| Vautour
| Venne
– 55
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brown
| Bryden
|
Bulte
| Byrne
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casson
| Catterall
|
Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Dromisky
|
Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
| Easter
|
Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
|
Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
| Godfrey
|
Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
|
Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
|
Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
|
Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
Stinson
| St - Julien
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
|
Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 182
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 26 negatived. Therefore
Motion No. 83 is also negatived.
[English]
The next question is on Motion No. 61.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order.
If the House would agree, I would propose that you seek unanimous
consent that members who vote on the previous motion be recorded
as having voted on the motion now before the House, with Liberal
members voting nay.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre, BQ): Mr. Speaker,
the members of the Bloc Quebecois will vote against the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, members of the New
Democratic Party present vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, the members of the Progressive
Conservative Party will vote yes to the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 61, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brison
| Casey
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Earle
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Hardy
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Laliberte
|
Lill
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Matthews
| Muise
| Nystrom
| Power
|
Proctor
| Solomon
| St - Jacques
| Stoffer
|
Vautour – 29
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
|
Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
|
Crête
| Cullen
| Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Duncan
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
|
Gallaway
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
|
Godfrey
| Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
|
Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Harris
|
Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
|
Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
|
Kraft Sloan
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
|
Lincoln
| Longfield
| Loubier
| Lunn
|
Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
|
Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
|
Morrison
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
| Redman
|
Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
| Robillard
|
Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| St - Julien
| Strahl
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood – 208
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 61 defeated.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order.
I believe you would find consent to apply the results of the vote
just taken to the following: Motions Nos. 22, 23, 24, 36, 37 and
151.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent of the
House to proceed in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
(The House divided on Motion No. 22, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brison
| Casey
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Earle
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Hardy
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Laliberte
|
Lill
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Matthews
| Muise
| Nystrom
| Power
|
Proctor
| Solomon
| St - Jacques
| Stoffer
|
Vautour – 29
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
|
Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
|
Crête
| Cullen
| Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Duncan
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
|
Gallaway
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
|
Godfrey
| Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
|
Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Harris
|
Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
|
Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
|
Kraft Sloan
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
|
Lincoln
| Longfield
| Loubier
| Lunn
|
Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
|
Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
|
Morrison
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
| Redman
|
Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
| Robillard
|
Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| St - Julien
| Strahl
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood – 208
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 23, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brison
| Casey
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Earle
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Hardy
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Laliberte
|
Lill
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Matthews
| Muise
| Nystrom
| Power
|
Proctor
| Solomon
| St - Jacques
| Stoffer
|
Vautour – 29
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
|
Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
|
Crête
| Cullen
| Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Duncan
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
|
Gallaway
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
|
Godfrey
| Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
|
Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Harris
|
Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
|
Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
|
Kraft Sloan
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
|
Lincoln
| Longfield
| Loubier
| Lunn
|
Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
|
Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
|
Morrison
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
| Redman
|
Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
| Robillard
|
Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| St - Julien
| Strahl
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood – 208
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 24, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brison
| Casey
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Earle
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Hardy
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Laliberte
|
Lill
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Matthews
| Muise
| Nystrom
| Power
|
Proctor
| Solomon
| St - Jacques
| Stoffer
|
Vautour – 29
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
|
Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
|
Crête
| Cullen
| Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Duncan
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
|
Gallaway
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
|
Godfrey
| Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
|
Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Harris
|
Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
|
Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
|
Kraft Sloan
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
|
Lincoln
| Longfield
| Loubier
| Lunn
|
Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
|
Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
|
Morrison
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
| Redman
|
Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
| Robillard
|
Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| St - Julien
| Strahl
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood – 208
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 36, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brison
| Casey
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Earle
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Hardy
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Laliberte
|
Lill
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Matthews
| Muise
| Nystrom
| Power
|
Proctor
| Solomon
| St - Jacques
| Stoffer
|
Vautour – 29
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
|
Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
|
Crête
| Cullen
| Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Duncan
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
|
Gallaway
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
|
Godfrey
| Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
|
Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Harris
|
Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
|
Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
|
Kraft Sloan
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
|
Lincoln
| Longfield
| Loubier
| Lunn
|
Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
|
Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
|
Morrison
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
| Redman
|
Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
| Robillard
|
Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| St - Julien
| Strahl
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood – 208
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 37, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brison
| Casey
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Earle
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Hardy
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Laliberte
|
Lill
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Matthews
| Muise
| Nystrom
| Power
|
Proctor
| Solomon
| St - Jacques
| Stoffer
|
Vautour – 29
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
|
Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
|
Crête
| Cullen
| Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Duncan
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
|
Gallaway
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
|
Godfrey
| Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
|
Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Harris
|
Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
|
Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
|
Kraft Sloan
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
|
Lincoln
| Longfield
| Loubier
| Lunn
|
Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
|
Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
|
Morrison
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
| Redman
|
Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
| Robillard
|
Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| St - Julien
| Strahl
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood – 208
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 151, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brison
| Casey
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Earle
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Hardy
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Laliberte
|
Lill
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Matthews
| Muise
| Nystrom
| Power
|
Proctor
| Solomon
| St - Jacques
| Stoffer
|
Vautour – 29
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
|
Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
|
Crête
| Cullen
| Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Duncan
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
|
Gallaway
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
|
Godfrey
| Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
|
Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Harris
|
Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
|
Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
|
Kraft Sloan
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
|
Lincoln
| Longfield
| Loubier
| Lunn
|
Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
|
Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
|
Morrison
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
| Redman
|
Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
| Robillard
|
Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| St - Julien
| Strahl
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood – 208
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
1900
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motions Nos. 22, 23, 24,
36, 37 and 151 defeated. Consequently I declare Motions Nos.
41, 70 and 73 defeated.
The next question is on Motion No. 62. A vote on this motion
also applies to Motions Nos. 63 and 68. An affirmative vote on
Motion No. 62 obviates the necessity of putting the question on
Motions Nos. 64 to 67. A negative vote on Motion No. 62
necessitates the question being put on Motions Nos. 64 to 67.
[Translation]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, you will find unanimous consent
that those members who voted on the previous motion be recorded
as having voted on the motion currently before the House, with
the Liberal members voting no.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed in
this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
[English]
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, the government is wrong on
this one. The Reform Party members present are voting yes.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, the members of the
Bloc Quebecois will vote yes.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, members of the New
Democratic Party present this evening vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, the members of the Progressive
Conservative Party will vote yes to the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 62, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Alarie
| Anders
|
Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
| Bellehumeur
| Benoit
|
Bigras
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brien
| Brison
| Cadman
| Casey
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
|
Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
| de Savoye
| Doyle
|
Duncan
| Epp
| Forseth
| Gagnon
|
Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Guimond
| Harris
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
|
Jaffer
| Johnston
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Loubier
| Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Matthews
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Muise
| Obhrai
| Penson
|
Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
| Ramsay
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Rocheleau
| Sauvageau
| Schmidt
|
Scott
(Skeena)
| Solberg
| St - Hilaire
| Stinson
|
St - Jacques
| Strahl
| Vellacott
| Venne
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 82
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alcock
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
|
Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Copps
| Cullen
| Davies
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Finestone
|
Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
| Fry
|
Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Harb
| Hardy
| Harvard
|
Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
|
Jennings
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
|
Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
|
Lincoln
| Longfield
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
|
Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Proctor
|
Provenzano
| Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
|
Rock
| Saada
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
St - Julien
| Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 155
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 62 defeated. I
therefore declare Motions Nos. 63 and 68 defeated.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find
consent to apply the results of the vote just taken to Motion No.
115.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed in
this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
(The House divided on Motion No. 115, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Alarie
| Anders
|
Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
| Bellehumeur
| Benoit
|
Bigras
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brien
| Brison
| Cadman
| Casey
|
Casson
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
|
Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
| de Savoye
| Doyle
|
Duncan
| Epp
| Forseth
| Gagnon
|
Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Guimond
| Harris
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
|
Jaffer
| Johnston
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Loubier
| Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Matthews
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Muise
| Obhrai
| Penson
|
Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
| Ramsay
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Rocheleau
| Sauvageau
| Schmidt
|
Scott
(Skeena)
| Solberg
| St - Hilaire
| Stinson
|
St - Jacques
| Strahl
| Vellacott
| Venne
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 82
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alcock
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
|
Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Copps
| Cullen
| Davies
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Finestone
|
Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
| Fry
|
Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Harb
| Hardy
| Harvard
|
Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
|
Jennings
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
|
Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
|
Lincoln
| Longfield
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
|
Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Proctor
|
Provenzano
| Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
|
Rock
| Saada
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
St - Julien
| Stoffer
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 155
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 115 defeated.
The next question is on Motion No. 64.
[Translation]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, you will find unanimous consent
that those members who voted on the preceding motion be recorded
as having voted on the motion now before the House, with the
Liberal members voting yes.
[English]
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed in
this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members present
vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, the members of the
Bloc Quebecois will vote yes.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, the New Democratic Party
members present this evening in the spirit of co-operation vote
yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, the members of the Progressive
Conservative Party will vote for the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 64, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brien
| Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
|
Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
|
Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
|
Crête
| Cullen
| Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
|
Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Duncan
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
|
Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
|
Gagnon
| Gallaway
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
|
Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Guimond
|
Harb
| Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
|
Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
|
Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
|
Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
| Lill
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
| Loubier
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
|
McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Mitchell
| Morrison
| Muise
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
|
Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
|
Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
|
Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Power
|
Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Robillard
| Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
|
Sauvageau
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
|
Solomon
| Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
|
Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| Stinson
|
St - Jacques
| St - Julien
| Stoffer
| Strahl
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
|
Vellacott
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
|
Wood – 237
|
NAYS
Members
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 64 agreed to.
[Translation]
The question is on Motion No. 65. If Motion No. 65 is defeated,
Motions Nos. 66 and 67 will have to be voted on.
1905
[English]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, if the House would agree, I
would propose that you seek unanimous consent that members who
voted on the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the
motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting nay.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, members of the Bloc
Quebecois will be voting against the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present this
evening vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
will be voting in favour of the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 65, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Cadman
| Casey
| Casson
|
Chatters
| Cummins
| Doyle
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Jaffer
|
Johnston
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
|
Mark
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Matthews
| McNally
|
Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
| Muise
|
Obhrai
| Penson
| Power
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| Strahl
|
Vellacott
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
– 59
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brien
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
|
Cullen
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
|
Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jennings
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Mifflin
| Mitchell
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Julien
| Stoffer
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
Wilfert
| Wood – 178
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 65 defeated.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find
consent to apply the results of the vote just taken to the
following: Motions Nos. 66, 84, 85, 89, 90, 117, 192 and 202.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
as outlined by the chief government whip?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
(The House divided on Motion No. 66, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Cadman
| Casey
| Casson
|
Chatters
| Cummins
| Doyle
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Jaffer
|
Johnston
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
|
Mark
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Matthews
| McNally
|
Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
| Muise
|
Obhrai
| Penson
| Power
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| Strahl
|
Vellacott
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
– 59
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brien
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
|
Cullen
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
|
Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jennings
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Mifflin
| Mitchell
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Julien
| Stoffer
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
Wilfert
| Wood – 178
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 84, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Cadman
| Casey
| Casson
|
Chatters
| Cummins
| Doyle
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Jaffer
|
Johnston
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
|
Mark
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Matthews
| McNally
|
Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
| Muise
|
Obhrai
| Penson
| Power
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| Strahl
|
Vellacott
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
– 59
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brien
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
|
Cullen
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
|
Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jennings
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Mifflin
| Mitchell
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Julien
| Stoffer
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
Wilfert
| Wood – 178
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 85, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Cadman
| Casey
| Casson
|
Chatters
| Cummins
| Doyle
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Jaffer
|
Johnston
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
|
Mark
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Matthews
| McNally
|
Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
| Muise
|
Obhrai
| Penson
| Power
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| Strahl
|
Vellacott
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
– 59
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brien
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
|
Cullen
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
|
Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jennings
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Mifflin
| Mitchell
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Julien
| Stoffer
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
Wilfert
| Wood – 178
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 89, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Cadman
| Casey
| Casson
|
Chatters
| Cummins
| Doyle
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Jaffer
|
Johnston
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
|
Mark
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Matthews
| McNally
|
Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
| Muise
|
Obhrai
| Penson
| Power
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| Strahl
|
Vellacott
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
– 59
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brien
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
|
Cullen
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
|
Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jennings
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Mifflin
| Mitchell
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Julien
| Stoffer
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
Wilfert
| Wood – 178
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 90, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Cadman
| Casey
| Casson
|
Chatters
| Cummins
| Doyle
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Jaffer
|
Johnston
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
|
Mark
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Matthews
| McNally
|
Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
| Muise
|
Obhrai
| Penson
| Power
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| Strahl
|
Vellacott
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
– 59
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brien
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
|
Cullen
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
|
Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jennings
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Mifflin
| Mitchell
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Julien
| Stoffer
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
Wilfert
| Wood – 178
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 117, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Cadman
| Casey
| Casson
|
Chatters
| Cummins
| Doyle
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Jaffer
|
Johnston
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
|
Mark
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Matthews
| McNally
|
Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
| Muise
|
Obhrai
| Penson
| Power
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| Strahl
|
Vellacott
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
– 59
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brien
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
|
Cullen
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
|
Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jennings
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Mifflin
| Mitchell
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Julien
| Stoffer
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
Wilfert
| Wood – 178
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 192, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Cadman
| Casey
| Casson
|
Chatters
| Cummins
| Doyle
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Jaffer
|
Johnston
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
|
Mark
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Matthews
| McNally
|
Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
| Muise
|
Obhrai
| Penson
| Power
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| Strahl
|
Vellacott
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
– 59
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brien
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
|
Cullen
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
|
Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jennings
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Mifflin
| Mitchell
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Julien
| Stoffer
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
Wilfert
| Wood – 178
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 202, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Anders
| Bailey
|
Benoit
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Cadman
| Casey
| Casson
|
Chatters
| Cummins
| Doyle
| Duncan
|
Epp
| Forseth
| Gilmour
| Goldring
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Harris
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Jaffer
|
Johnston
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
|
Mark
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Matthews
| McNally
|
Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
| Muise
|
Obhrai
| Penson
| Power
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Solberg
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| Strahl
|
Vellacott
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
– 59
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alarie
| Alcock
| Anderson
|
Assad
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brien
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
|
Cullen
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
|
Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Guimond
| Harb
| Hardy
|
Harvard
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jennings
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| Loubier
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Mifflin
| Mitchell
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rocheleau
|
Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Julien
| Stoffer
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
Wilfert
| Wood – 178
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
[Translation]
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motions Nos. 66, 84, 85, 89, 90,
117, 192 and 202 lost. Motions Nos. 93, 96, 108, 11, 94, 97,
109 and 112 are therefore also lost.
[English]
The next question is on Motion No. 67.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, if the House would agree, I
would propose that you seek unanimous consent that members who
voted on the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the
motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting yea,
with the exceptions of the members for Davenport, Lac-Saint-Louis
and York North who wish to vote nay.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members present
vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, members of the Bloc
Quebecois will be voting in favour of the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present this
evening will vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
will be voting in favour of the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 67, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
| Catterall
|
Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
| de Savoye
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
|
Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
|
Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
|
Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
|
Guimond
| Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
|
Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
|
Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
| Lalonde
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
|
Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
| Loubier
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
|
Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Robillard
| Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
|
Sauvageau
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
|
St - Julien
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vellacott
| Venne
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood – 218
|
NAYS
Members
Blaikie
| Caccia
| Davies
| Desjarlais
|
Dockrill
| Earle
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Hardy
|
Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lill
| Lincoln
|
Mancini
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Nystrom
| Proctor
|
Solomon
| Stoffer
| Vautour – 19
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 67 carried.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find
consent to apply the results of the vote just taken to the
following, with the hon. member for Oxford voting nay: Motions
Nos. 86 and 91.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to apply
the vote just taken as outlined by the chief government whip?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
The Deputy Speaker: With the change of the hon. member
for Oxford who will be counted as a nay.
(The House divided on Motion No. 86, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
| Catterall
|
Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
| de Savoye
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
|
Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
| Gauthier
|
Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Guimond
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
|
Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
| Loubier
| Lunn
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
| Matthews
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
|
McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mifflin
|
Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
| Muise
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
|
Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
|
Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Power
|
Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
| Redman
|
Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
| Robillard
|
Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vellacott
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
|
Wood – 217
|
NAYS
Members
Blaikie
| Caccia
| Davies
| Desjarlais
|
Dockrill
| Earle
| Finlay
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Hardy
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lill
|
Lincoln
| Mancini
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Nystrom
|
Proctor
| Solomon
| Stoffer
| Vautour – 20
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 91, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
| Catterall
|
Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
|
Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
| de Savoye
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
|
Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
| Gauthier
|
Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Guimond
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
|
Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
| Loubier
| Lunn
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
| Matthews
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
|
McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mifflin
|
Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
| Muise
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
|
Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
|
Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Power
|
Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
| Redman
|
Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
| Robillard
|
Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vellacott
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
|
Wood – 217
|
NAYS
Members
Blaikie
| Caccia
| Davies
| Desjarlais
|
Dockrill
| Earle
| Finlay
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Hardy
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lill
|
Lincoln
| Mancini
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Nystrom
|
Proctor
| Solomon
| Stoffer
| Vautour – 20
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motions Nos. 86 and 91
carried.
1910
The next question is on Motion No. 88.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, if the House would agree, I
would propose that you seek unanimous consent that members who
voted on the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the
motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting yea,
with the exception of the members for Davenport, Lac-Saint-Louis,
York North and Oxford who wish to vote nay.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
The Deputy Speaker: I will hear the subsequent points of
order.
Mr. John Godfrey: Mr. Speaker, I wish to add my vote to
the no list.
Ms. Bonnie Brown: Mr. Speaker, I wish to add my name to
the no list.
Ms. Jean Augustine: Mr. Speaker, I would like to add my
name to the no list.
Ms. Carolyn Bennett: Mr. Speaker, I wish to abstain on
this one.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, somebody has to support
the government. The Reform Party will vote yes.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, members of the Bloc
Quebecois will be voting in favour.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present vote
no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, members of the Progressive
Conservative party will be voting against the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 88, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Benoit
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
|
Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
|
Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
|
Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| de Savoye
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Duncan
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Epp
| Finestone
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
|
Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Guimond
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
|
Lavigne
| Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
| Loubier
| Lunn
|
Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
|
Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
|
Morrison
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
| Redman
|
Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
| Robillard
|
Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
| Sauvageau
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| St - Julien
| Strahl
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood – 200
|
NAYS
Members
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brison
| Brown
|
Caccia
| Casey
| Davies
| Desjarlais
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Earle
| Finlay
|
Fry
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Hardy
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lill
| Lincoln
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
|
Muise
| Nystrom
| Power
| Proctor
|
Solomon
| St - Jacques
| Stoffer
| Vautour – 36
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 88 carried.
The next question is on Motion No. 101.
[Translation]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find unanimous
consent that those members who voted on the previous motion be
recorded as having voted on the motion now before the House,
with Liberal members voting nay.
[English]
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members will be voting against.
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members vote no.
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
vote in favour of the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 101, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Borotsik
| Brison
| Casey
| Doyle
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Matthews
| Muise
| Power
|
St - Jacques – 13
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
|
Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
|
Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
|
Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Duncan
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
|
Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
|
Gagnon
| Gallaway
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
|
Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Guimond
|
Harb
| Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
|
Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
|
Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
|
Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
| Lill
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
| Loubier
|
Lunn
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
|
Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Robillard
| Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
|
Sauvageau
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
|
Solomon
| Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
|
Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| Stinson
|
St - Julien
| Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
|
Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood
– 224
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 101 defeated.
1915
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find
consent to apply the results of the vote just taken to Motions
Nos. 200 and 214.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in such a fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
(The House divided on Motion No. 200, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Borotsik
| Brison
| Casey
| Doyle
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Matthews
| Muise
| Power
|
St - Jacques – 13
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
|
Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
|
Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
|
Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Duncan
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
|
Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
|
Gagnon
| Gallaway
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
|
Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Guimond
|
Harb
| Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
|
Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
|
Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
|
Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
| Lill
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
| Loubier
|
Lunn
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
|
Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Robillard
| Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
|
Sauvageau
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
|
Solomon
| Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
|
Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| Stinson
|
St - Julien
| Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
|
Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood
– 224
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 214, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Borotsik
| Brison
| Casey
| Doyle
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Matthews
| Muise
| Power
|
St - Jacques – 13
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
|
Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
|
Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
|
Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Duncan
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
|
Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
|
Gagnon
| Gallaway
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
|
Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Guimond
|
Harb
| Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
|
Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
|
Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
|
Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
| Lill
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
| Loubier
|
Lunn
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
|
Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Robillard
| Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
|
Sauvageau
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
|
Solomon
| Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
|
Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| Stinson
|
St - Julien
| Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
|
Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood
– 224
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motions Nos. 200 and 214
negatived.
The next question is on Motion No. 122. A negative vote on
Motion No. 122 requires the question to be put on Motion No. 123.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, if the House would agree, I
propose that you seek unanimous consent that members who voted on
the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the motion now
before the House, with Liberal members voting yea.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members present
vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre, BQ): Mr. Speaker,
the members of the Bloc Quebecois vote no.
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, the members of the New
Democratic Party vote no.
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, the Progressive Conservatives
vote no to the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 122, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brown
| Bryden
|
Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
|
Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
|
Godfrey
| Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
|
Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
|
Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
|
Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
| Lunn
|
Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
| Mark
|
Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
|
McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mifflin
|
Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Obhrai
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
| Peric
|
Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
| Schmidt
|
Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
| Serré
|
Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
| St. Denis
|
Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
|
St - Julien
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vellacott
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
|
Wood
– 185
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brien
| Brison
|
Casey
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
|
Doyle
| Earle
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
|
Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Guimond
| Hardy
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Lill
|
Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
| Muise
|
Nystrom
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
| Proctor
|
Rocheleau
| Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
|
St - Jacques
| Stoffer
| Vautour
| Venne
– 52
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 122 carried.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find
consent to apply the results of the vote just taken to Motions
Nos. 138 and 148.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent of the
House to proceed in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Hon. Charles Caccia: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of
order. I may not have heard you call three very important
motions and I would seek confirmation that you have done so, in
which case I would like to register my vote in opposition;
namely, Motions Nos. 110, 113 and 95.
The Deputy Speaker: Before I deal with that point of
order, I am going to deal with the two motions on which we are
applying votes, which are Motions Nos. 138 and 148. It has
been agreed to apply the votes to those two motions.
(The House divided on Motion No. 138, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brown
| Bryden
|
Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
|
Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
|
Godfrey
| Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
|
Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
|
Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
|
Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
| Lunn
|
Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
| Mark
|
Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
|
McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mifflin
|
Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Obhrai
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
| Peric
|
Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
| Schmidt
|
Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
| Serré
|
Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
| St. Denis
|
Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
|
St - Julien
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vellacott
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
|
Wood
– 185
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brien
| Brison
|
Casey
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
|
Doyle
| Earle
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
|
Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Guimond
| Hardy
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Lill
|
Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
| Muise
|
Nystrom
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
| Proctor
|
Rocheleau
| Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
|
St - Jacques
| Stoffer
| Vautour
| Venne
– 52
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 148, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brown
| Bryden
|
Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
|
Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
|
Godfrey
| Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
|
Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
|
Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
|
Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
| Lunn
|
Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
| Mark
|
Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
|
McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mifflin
|
Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Obhrai
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
| Peric
|
Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
| Schmidt
|
Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
| Serré
|
Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
| St. Denis
|
Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
|
St - Julien
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vellacott
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
|
Wood
– 185
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brien
| Brison
|
Casey
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
|
Doyle
| Earle
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
|
Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Guimond
| Hardy
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Lill
|
Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Marceau
|
Marchand
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
| Muise
|
Nystrom
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
| Proctor
|
Rocheleau
| Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
|
St - Jacques
| Stoffer
| Vautour
| Venne
– 52
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motions Nos. 138 and 148
carried.
1920
Hon. Charles Caccia: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of
order concerning Motions Nos. 95, 110 and 113. These are three
important amendments. I do not think they were called for a
specific vote.
The Deputy Speaker: I can advise the hon. member for
Davenport that the vote taken on Motion No. 67 was applied, with
consent, to Motions Nos. 95, 110 and 113. I understand from the
information I have gleaned from the Clerk that the hon. member
for Davenport voted nay to each one of them.
The next question is on Motion No. 128.
[Translation]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I think you will find consent in
the House to record the members who have just voted as voting on
the motion now before the House, with Liberals voting yes.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there agreement to proceed in such a
fashion?
[English]
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, after the exchange that
went back and forth, could I have clarification as to which
motion we are actually on right now?
The Deputy Speaker: Motion No. 128. Is there unanimous
consent to proceed as outlined by the chief government whip on
Motion No. 128?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Reform Party members present vote yes
to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, the Bloc Quebecois
members are voting no to the motion.
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, the members of the NDP present
vote no to the motion.
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, the Progressive Conservative
members vote yes to the motion.
[English]
Hon. Charles Caccia: Mr. Speaker, I wish to have my vote
registered in the negative.
Mrs. Karen Kraft Sloan: Mr. Speaker, I would like to vote
in the negative.
Mr. Clifford Lincoln: Mr. Speaker, I vote no to the
motion.
Ms. Bonnie Brown: Mr. Speaker, I vote no to the motion.
(The House divided on Motion No. 128, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brison
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Cadman
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
|
Cummins
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Duncan
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
|
Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
|
Gallaway
| Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
|
Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
|
Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
|
Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
|
Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
|
Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
| Lunn
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
|
Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
|
Morrison
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
| Schmidt
|
Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
| Serré
|
Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
| St. Denis
|
Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
|
St - Jacques
| St - Julien
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
|
Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 194
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Brien
| Brown
| Caccia
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
|
de Savoye
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
| Earle
|
Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Guimond
| Hardy
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lalonde
| Lebel
| Lill
| Lincoln
|
Loubier
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Nystrom
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Proctor
|
Rocheleau
| Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
|
Stoffer
| Vautour
| Venne
– 43
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 128 carried.
The next question is on Motion No. 4.
[Translation]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I think you will find consent in
the House to record the members who have just voted as voting on
the motion now before the House, with Liberals voting no.
[English]
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, the Bloc Quebecois
members are voting yes to the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present this
evening vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, the Progressive Conservative
members vote no to the motion.
1925
(The House divided on Motion No. 4, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| Venne – 23
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 214
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 4 defeated.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find consent
to apply the results of the vote just taken to Motions Nos. 5,
11, 12, 25, 30, 33, 39 and 216.
[English]
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in the fashion suggested by the chief government whip?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
(The House divided on Motion No. 5, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| Venne – 23
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 214
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 11, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| Venne – 23
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 214
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 12, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| Venne – 23
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 214
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 25, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| Venne – 23
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 214
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 30, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| Venne – 23
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 214
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 33, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| Venne – 23
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 214
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 39, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| Venne – 23
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 214
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 216, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| Venne – 23
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 214
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motions Nos. 5, 11, 12, 25,
30, 33, 39 and 216 defeated. Consequently, I declare Motions
Nos. 42, 43, 46, 49, 50, 52, 59, 60, 69, 74, 81, 105 to 107, 116,
119 to 121, 125, 129, 133, 146, 147, 155, 156, 159, 167, 169,
171, 172, 174, 181, 183, 189, 195, 197, 203, 207, 208 and 211
defeated.
The next question is on Motion No. 15.
[Translation]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find unanimous
consent that those members who voted on the previous motion be
recorded as having voted on the motion now before the House,
with Liberal members voting nay.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there agreement to proceed in this
fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
[English]
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members vote yes to the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present this
evening vote no.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
vote yes to the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 15, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Borotsik
| Brien
| Brison
| Casey
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
| de Savoye
|
Doyle
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Matthews
|
Muise
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| Venne – 36
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
|
Cummins
| Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
| McCormick
|
McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Mitchell
| Morrison
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
| Peric
|
Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Julien
| Stoffer
|
Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
|
Wood
– 201
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 15 defeated.
[Translation]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find consent to
apply the results of the vote just taken to Motion No. 198.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there agreement to proceed in this
fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
(The House divided on Motion No. 198, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Borotsik
| Brien
| Brison
| Casey
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
| de Savoye
|
Doyle
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Matthews
|
Muise
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| Venne – 36
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
|
Cummins
| Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
| McCormick
|
McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Mitchell
| Morrison
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
| Peric
|
Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Julien
| Stoffer
|
Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
|
Wood
– 201
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 198 defeated.
[English]
The next question is on Motion No. 31. A negative vote on
Motion No. 31 requires the question to be put on Motion No. 32.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, if the House would agree, I
would propose that you seek unanimous consent that members who
voted on the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the
motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting yea.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
1930
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members vote no to the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present vote
yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
vote yes to the motion.
(The House divided on Motion No. 31, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 214
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| Venne – 23
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 31 carried.
[English]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I believe you will find
consent to apply the results of the vote just taken to the
following: Motions Nos. 48, 56 and 17.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
(The House divided on Motion No. 48, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 214
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| Venne – 23
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 56, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 214
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| Venne – 23
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
(The House divided on Motion No. 17, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 214
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
de Savoye
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| Venne – 23
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motions Nos. 48, 56 and 17
carried. As a consequence I therefore declare the following
motions carried: Motions Nos. 51, 58, 80, 161, 173, 176, 204,
210, 213, 225, 20, 21, 27 to 29, 34, 35, 40, 44, 45, 54, 55, 72,
75 to 79, 82, 92, 98 to 100, 102 to 104, 114, 124, 126, 127, 131,
134, 136, 140 to 145, 152, 157, 158, 162 to 166, 168, 170, 175,
177 to 180, 182, 184, 188, 190, 196, 199, 217 to 224, 226 to 229,
232 and 234 to 236.
The next question is on Motion No. 160. A vote on this motion
also applies to Motion No. 205.
Mr. Randy White: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order.
I am wondering if one is recorded as a vote if one is sleeping in
the House. The member for Port Moody—Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam
over here—
The Deputy Speaker: It is very difficult for the Chair to
imagine how any member could possibly be asleep under such
exciting circumstances.
The question is on Motion No. 160. A vote on this motion also
applies to Motion No. 205.
[Translation]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find unanimous
consent that those members who voted on the previous motion be
recorded as having voted on the motion now before the House,
with Liberal members voting nay.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there agreement to proceed in this
fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
[English]
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote yes to the motion.
1935
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members vote yes to the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present this
evening in the House vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
vote no to the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 160, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Alarie
| Anders
|
Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
| Bellehumeur
| Benoit
|
Bigras
| Blaikie
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brien
| Cadman
| Casson
| Chatters
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
|
Duncan
| Earle
| Epp
| Forseth
|
Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
|
Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
| Gouk
| Grewal
|
Guimond
| Hardy
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Lill
| Loubier
| Lunn
|
Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| McNally
| Meredith
|
Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
|
Penson
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Proctor
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Rocheleau
| Sauvageau
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| Stoffer
| Strahl
|
Vautour
| Vellacott
| Venne
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
|
White
(North Vancouver) – 85
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alcock
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
|
Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Casey
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
|
Chan
| Charbonneau
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Finestone
| Finlay
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Fry
| Gagliano
|
Gallaway
| Godfrey
| Goodale
| Graham
|
Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
| Mitchell
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
| Peric
|
Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Power
| Pratt
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rock
|
Saada
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Sekora
| Serré
|
Shepherd
| Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
|
Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 152
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 160 defeated.
Consequently Motion No. 205 is defeated.
The next question is on Motion No. 209. A vote on this motion
also applies to Motion No. 212.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, if the House would agree, I
would propose that you seek unanimous consent that members who
voted on the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the
motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting yea.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members vote no to the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, members of the NDP present
vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
vote no to the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 209, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brown
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
|
Cummins
| Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
|
Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Lill
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mancini
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
| McCormick
|
McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Mitchell
| Morrison
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
| Peric
|
Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Julien
| Stoffer
|
Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
|
Wood
– 201
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Borotsik
| Brien
| Brison
| Casey
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
| de Savoye
|
Doyle
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
|
Guimond
| Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Loubier
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Matthews
|
Muise
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| Venne – 36
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 209 carried. I
therefore declare Motion No. 212 carried.
The next question is on Motion No. 215.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, if the House would agree, I
would propose that you seek unanimous consent that members who
voted on the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the
motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting yea.
[Translation]
The Deputy Speaker: Is there agreement to proceed in this
fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
[English]
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members will be voting in favour of the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present this
evening vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
will be voting against the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 215, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brien
|
Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
|
Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
|
Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Copps
| Crête
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Duncan
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
|
Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
|
Gagnon
| Gallaway
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
|
Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Guimond
|
Harb
| Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
|
Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
|
Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
|
Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
| Lill
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
| Loubier
|
Lunn
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
|
Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
|
Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Robillard
| Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
|
Sauvageau
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
|
Solomon
| Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
|
Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| Stinson
|
St - Julien
| Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
|
Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
|
Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood
– 224
|
NAYS
Members
Borotsik
| Brison
| Casey
| Doyle
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Matthews
| Muise
| Power
|
St - Jacques – 13
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 215 carried.
[Translation]
The next question is on Motion No. 19.
[English]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, if the House would agree, I
propose that you seek unanimous consent that members who voted on
the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the motion now
before the House, with Liberal members voting nay.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
1940
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members present
vote nay to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members will be voting in favour of the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, with enthusiasm members of
the NDP support the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
will be voting in favour of the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 19, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Alarie
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
|
Bigras
| Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brien
|
Brison
| Casey
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Earle
| Gagnon
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Guimond
|
Hardy
| Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lebel
|
Lill
| Loubier
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
|
Muise
| Nystrom
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
|
Proctor
| Rocheleau
| Sauvageau
| Solomon
|
St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
| Stoffer
| Vautour
|
Venne
– 53
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brown
| Bryden
|
Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
|
Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
|
Godfrey
| Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
|
Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
|
Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
|
Johnston
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
| Lunn
|
Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
| Mark
|
Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
|
McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mifflin
|
Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Obhrai
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
| Peric
|
Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
| Schmidt
|
Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
| Serré
|
Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
| St. Denis
|
Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
|
St - Julien
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vellacott
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
|
Wood
– 185
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
| Bergeron
|
Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
| Desrochers
|
Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
| MacAulay
|
Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
| Mercier
|
Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
| Proud
|
Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 19 defeated.
The next question is on Motion No. 185. If Motion No. 185 is
defeated, we would have to vote on Motion No. 186.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, if the House would agree I
would propose that you seek unanimous consent that members who
voted on the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the
motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting yea,
with the exception of the members for Davenport, Lac-Saint-Louis
and York North who wish to vote nay.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members will be voting against the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present vote
no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
will be voting in favour of the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 185, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brison
|
Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
|
Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casey
| Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
|
Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Clouthier
|
Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
|
Cullen
| Cummins
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Doyle
| Dromisky
|
Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
| Easter
|
Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
|
Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
| Godfrey
|
Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
|
Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
|
McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Mitchell
| Morrison
| Muise
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Obhrai
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
| Peric
|
Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Power
| Pratt
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
| Strahl
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
|
Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
|
White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood
– 195
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Brien
| Caccia
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
|
Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
|
Desjarlais
| Dockrill
| Earle
| Gagnon
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Guimond
|
Hardy
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Lill
| Lincoln
| Loubier
|
Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Nystrom
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Proctor
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
| Stoffer
|
Vautour
| Venne
– 42
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 185 carried.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find
consent to apply the results of the vote just taken to Motion No.
193.
The Deputy Speaker: Is that agreed?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
(The House divided on Motion No. 193, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brison
|
Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
|
Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casey
| Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
|
Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Clouthier
|
Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
|
Cullen
| Cummins
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Doyle
| Dromisky
|
Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
| Easter
|
Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
|
Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
| Godfrey
|
Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
|
Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
|
McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Mitchell
| Morrison
| Muise
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Obhrai
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
| Peric
|
Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Power
| Pratt
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
| Strahl
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
|
Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
|
White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood
– 195
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Brien
| Caccia
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
|
Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
|
Desjarlais
| Dockrill
| Earle
| Gagnon
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Guimond
|
Hardy
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Lill
| Lincoln
| Loubier
|
Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Nystrom
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Proctor
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
| Stoffer
|
Vautour
| Venne
– 42
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 193 carried.
The next question is on Motion No. 154.
[Translation]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I think you will find unanimous
consent that those members who voted on the previous motion be
recorded as having voted on the motion now before the House,
with Liberal members voting yea, with the exception of the
members for Davenport, Lac-Saint-Louis and York North, who vote
nay.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there agreement to proceed in this
fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
[English]
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members will be voting against the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present vote
no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
will be voting against the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 154, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brown
| Bryden
|
Bulte
| Byrne
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casson
| Catterall
|
Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Dromisky
|
Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
| Easter
|
Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
|
Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
| Godfrey
|
Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
|
Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Massé
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
|
Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
|
Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Pratt
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
Stinson
| St - Julien
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
|
Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 182
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Borotsik
| Brien
| Brison
|
Caccia
| Casey
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
Dockrill
| Doyle
| Earle
| Gagnon
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Guimond
|
Hardy
| Harvey
| Herron
| Jones
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Lill
| Lincoln
| Loubier
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
| Muise
| Nystrom
|
Picard
(Drummond)
| Power
| Proctor
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
| St - Jacques
|
Stoffer
| Vautour
| Venne
– 55
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 154 carried.
The next question is on Motion No. 230.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, if the House would agree I
would propose that you seek unanimous consent that members who
voted on the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the
motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting yea.
1945
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members will be voting against the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present this
evening vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
will be voting in favour of the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 230, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Adams
| Alcock
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
|
Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Casey
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
|
Chan
| Charbonneau
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Finestone
| Finlay
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Fry
| Gagliano
|
Gallaway
| Godfrey
| Goodale
| Graham
|
Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
| Mitchell
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
| Peric
|
Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Power
| Pratt
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rock
|
Saada
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Sekora
| Serré
|
Shepherd
| Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
|
Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 152
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Alarie
| Anders
|
Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
| Bellehumeur
| Benoit
|
Bigras
| Blaikie
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brien
| Cadman
| Casson
| Chatters
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
|
Duncan
| Earle
| Epp
| Forseth
|
Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
|
Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
| Gouk
| Grewal
|
Guimond
| Hardy
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Lill
| Loubier
| Lunn
|
Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| McNally
| Meredith
|
Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
|
Penson
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Proctor
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Rocheleau
| Sauvageau
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| Stoffer
| Strahl
|
Vautour
| Vellacott
| Venne
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
|
White
(North Vancouver) – 85
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 230 carried.
The next question is on Motion No. 231.
[Translation]
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I think you will find unanimous
consent that the members who voted on the previous motion be
recorded as having voted on the motion now before the House,
with Liberal members voting yea.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there agreement to proceed in this
fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
[English]
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, the Bloc Quebecois
members are voting no to the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, members of the NDP vote no
to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, the Progressive Conservative
members vote yes to the motion.
[English]
Hon. Charles Caccia: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of
order to register a vote in the negative.
Mr. Clifford Lincoln: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of
order. I would like to vote no to the motion.
Mrs. Karen Kraft Sloan: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of
order. I would like to vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
(The House divided on Motion No. 231, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Adams
| Alcock
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
|
Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casey
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Easter
|
Eggleton
| Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
|
Fontana
| Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
|
Godfrey
| Goodale
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
| Harvard
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
| Ianno
|
Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
| Jones
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
|
Malhi
| Maloney
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
|
Mitchell
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
|
Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
|
Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Power
| Pratt
|
Provenzano
| Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
|
Rock
| Saada
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Speller
| St. Denis
|
Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Jacques
|
St - Julien
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Torsney
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
| Wilfert
|
Wood – 149
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Alarie
| Anders
|
Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
| Bellehumeur
| Benoit
|
Bigras
| Blaikie
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brien
| Caccia
| Cadman
| Casson
|
Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Cummins
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
Dockrill
| Duncan
| Earle
| Epp
|
Forseth
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
|
Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
| Gouk
|
Grewal
| Guimond
| Hardy
| Harris
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
|
Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Lill
|
Lincoln
| Loubier
| Lunn
| Mancini
|
Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| McNally
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Morrison
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| Penson
|
Picard
(Drummond)
| Proctor
| Ramsay
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Rocheleau
| Sauvageau
| Schmidt
|
Scott
(Skeena)
| Solberg
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
|
Stinson
| Stoffer
| Strahl
| Vautour
|
Vellacott
| Venne
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver) – 88
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 231 carried.
[English]
The next question is on Motion No. 233.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I wonder if I might ask the
chair for clarification. Was that matter not dealt with and a
previous vote applied to it? I am referring to Motion No. 128.
The Deputy Speaker: I am advised that it has not been
dealt with. If the chief government whip has a suggestion,
perhaps we could get consent.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I would seek the consent of
the House to apply the results of the vote on Motion No. 128 to
the motion now before the House, Motion No. 233.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it agreed to apply the vote on
Motion No. 128 to Motion No. 233?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
The Deputy Speaker: Agreed and so ordered.
Hon. Charles Caccia: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of
order. I would like to indicate a vote in the negative to the
motion.
The Deputy Speaker: That was done before.
(The House divided on Motion No. 233, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brison
|
Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
| Cadman
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
|
Cummins
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
|
Discepola
| Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Duncan
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
|
Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
|
Gallaway
| Gilmour
| Godfrey
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
| Ianno
|
Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
| Jennings
|
Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
|
Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
|
Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
|
Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
|
Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
| Lunn
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
|
Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
|
Morrison
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
| Schmidt
|
Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
| Serré
|
Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
| St. Denis
|
Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
|
St - Jacques
| St - Julien
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
|
Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 194
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Brien
| Brown
| Caccia
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
|
de Savoye
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
| Earle
|
Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
|
Guimond
| Hardy
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lalonde
| Lebel
| Lill
| Lincoln
|
Loubier
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Nystrom
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Proctor
|
Rocheleau
| Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
|
Stoffer
| Vautour
| Venne
– 43
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: Accordingly, I declare Motion No. 233
carried.
Hon. Christine Stewart (Minister of the Environment, Lib.)
moved that the bill, as amended, be concurred in at report stage
with further amendments.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, if the House would agree I
would propose that you seek unanimous consent that members who
voted on the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the
motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting yea.
1950
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, the members of the
Bloc Quebecois vote no to the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present this
evening in this Chamber vote no.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, the Progressive Conservative
members vote yes to the motion.
[English]
Mrs. Karen Kraft Sloan: Mr. Speaker, I would like to
register my vote as negative on concurrence.
Mr. Clifford Lincoln: Mr. Speaker, I would like to register
my vote as no on concurrence.
Hon. Charles Caccia: No, Mr. Speaker.
(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brison
|
Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
|
Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casey
| Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
|
Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Clouthier
|
Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
|
Cullen
| Cummins
| DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Doyle
| Dromisky
|
Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
| Easter
|
Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
|
Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
| Godfrey
|
Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
|
Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
|
McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Mitchell
| Morrison
| Muise
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Obhrai
|
O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
| Peric
|
Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Power
| Pratt
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
|
St. Denis
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
|
Stinson
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
| Strahl
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
|
Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
|
White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood
– 195
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Brien
| Caccia
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
|
Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
|
Desjarlais
| Dockrill
| Earle
| Gagnon
|
Gauthier
| Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Guimond
|
Hardy
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Lill
| Lincoln
| Loubier
|
Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Nystrom
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Proctor
| Rocheleau
|
Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
| Stoffer
|
Vautour
| Venne
– 42
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare the motion carried.
* * *
BANK ACT
The House resumed from May 26 consideration of the motion that
Bill C-67, an act to amend the Bank Act, the Winding-up and
Restructuring Act and other acts relating to financial
institutions and to make consequential amendments to other acts,
be read the third time and passed.
The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to order made on Wednesday,
May 26, 1999, the House will now proceed to the taking of the
deferred recorded division on the motion at the third reading
stage of Bill C-67.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, if the House would agree, I
would propose that you seek unanimous consent that members who
voted on the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the
motion now before the House with Liberal members voting yea.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, the members of the
Bloc Quebecois vote no to the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present vote
no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, the Progressive Conservative
members vote yes to the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
| Augustine
|
Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
|
Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brison
|
Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
| Byrne
|
Caccia
| Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
| Catterall
|
Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
| Finestone
|
Finlay
| Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
|
Fry
| Gagliano
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
|
Godfrey
| Goldring
| Goodale
| Gouk
|
Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grewal
| Grose
|
Guarnieri
| Harb
| Harris
| Harvard
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
|
Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
|
Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
|
Lastewka
| Lavigne
| Lee
| Leung
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
| Lunn
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
|
Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
|
Morrison
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Normand
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Penson
| Peric
| Peterson
|
Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Robillard
| Rock
| Saada
| Schmidt
|
Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
| Serré
|
Shepherd
| Solberg
| Speller
| St. Denis
|
Steckle
| Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
|
St - Jacques
| St - Julien
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
| Ur
|
Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert
| Wood
– 198
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Blaikie
| Brien
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
|
Dockrill
| Earle
| Gagnon
| Gauthier
|
Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Guimond
| Hardy
|
Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lebel
| Lill
|
Loubier
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Nystrom
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Proctor
|
Rocheleau
| Sauvageau
| Solomon
| St - Hilaire
|
Stoffer
| Vautour
| Venne – 39
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare the motion carried.
(Bill read the third time and passed)
* * *
[Translation]
CANADA TRAVELLING EXHIBITIONS INDEMNIFICATION ACT
The House resumed from May 28, consideration of Bill C-64,
an act to establish an indemnification program for travelling
exhibitions, as reported (with amendment) from the committee.
The Deputy Speaker: The House will now proceed to the taking of
the deferred divisions at report stage of Bill C-64.
The division is on the amendment to Motion No. 1.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I think you would find consent in
the House to record the members who have just voted as voting on
the motion now before the House, with the Liberals voting no.
[English]
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent of the
House to proceed in such a fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, this is a good amendment.
We are going to vote yes to this one.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members vote in favour of the amendment.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, NDP members present vote
yes to the amendment.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
vote no to the amendment.
[English]
(The House divided on the amendment, which was negatived on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Alarie
| Anders
|
Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
| Bellehumeur
| Benoit
|
Bigras
| Blaikie
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brien
| Cadman
| Casson
| Chatters
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
|
Duncan
| Earle
| Epp
| Forseth
|
Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
|
Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
| Gouk
| Grewal
|
Guimond
| Hardy
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Lill
| Loubier
| Lunn
|
Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| McNally
| Meredith
|
Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
|
Penson
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Proctor
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Rocheleau
| Sauvageau
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| Stoffer
| Strahl
|
Vautour
| Vellacott
| Venne
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
|
White
(North Vancouver) – 85
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Alcock
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
|
Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Casey
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
|
Chan
| Charbonneau
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Finestone
| Finlay
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Fry
| Gagliano
|
Gallaway
| Godfrey
| Goodale
| Graham
|
Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
| Mitchell
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
| Peric
|
Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Power
| Pratt
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rock
|
Saada
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Sekora
| Serré
|
Shepherd
| Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
|
Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 152
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare the amendment to Motion No.
1 defeated. The question therefore is on Motion No. 1.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, if the House would agree, I
would propose that you seek unanimous consent that members who
voted on the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the
motion now before the House with Liberal members voting yea.
1955
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in this fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members vote no to the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, members of the New
Democratic Party caucus in the House vote no to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
vote yes to the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 1, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Adams
| Alcock
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Baker
| Beaumier
|
Bélair
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Bennett
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
|
Bonwick
| Borotsik
| Boudria
| Bradshaw
|
Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
| Bulte
|
Byrne
| Caccia
| Calder
| Cannis
|
Caplan
| Casey
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
|
Chan
| Charbonneau
| Clouthier
| Coderre
|
Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
|
DeVillers
| Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Finestone
| Finlay
|
Folco
| Fontana
| Fry
| Gagliano
|
Gallaway
| Godfrey
| Goodale
| Graham
|
Gray
(Windsor West)
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Harvard
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hubbard
|
Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
| Jennings
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Knutson
| Kraft Sloan
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lee
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
|
Longfield
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Marleau
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Massé
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
McTeague
| McWhinney
| Mifflin
| Mitchell
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
| Peric
|
Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Power
| Pratt
| Provenzano
|
Redman
| Reed
| Robillard
| Rock
|
Saada
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Sekora
| Serré
|
Shepherd
| Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
|
Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Jacques
| St - Julien
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| Wilfert
| Wood – 152
|
NAYS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Alarie
| Anders
|
Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
| Bellehumeur
| Benoit
|
Bigras
| Blaikie
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brien
| Cadman
| Casson
| Chatters
|
Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
| Dockrill
|
Duncan
| Earle
| Epp
| Forseth
|
Gagnon
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
|
Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
| Gouk
| Grewal
|
Guimond
| Hardy
| Harris
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hilstrom
| Jaffer
| Johnston
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Konrad
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lebel
| Lill
| Loubier
| Lunn
|
Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
| Mark
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| McNally
| Meredith
|
Mills
(Red Deer)
| Morrison
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
|
Penson
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Proctor
| Ramsay
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Rocheleau
| Sauvageau
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
St - Hilaire
| Stinson
| Stoffer
| Strahl
|
Vautour
| Vellacott
| Venne
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
|
White
(North Vancouver) – 85
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 1 carried.
Hon. Sheila Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage, Lib.) moved
that the bill, as amended, be concurred in.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to
adopt the motion?
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, if the House would agree, I
would propose that you seek unanimous consent that members who
voted on the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the
motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting yea.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
in such a fashion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Mr. Chuck Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members
present vote yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mrs. Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral: Mr. Speaker, Bloc Quebecois
members vote yes to the motion.
[English]
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, members of the NDP vote
yes to the motion.
[Translation]
Mr. André Harvey: Mr. Speaker, Progressive Conservative members
vote yes to the motion.
[English]
(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alarie
|
Alcock
| Anders
| Anderson
| Assad
|
Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellehumeur
| Bellemare
| Bennett
| Benoit
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Bigras
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Bonwick
| Borotsik
|
Boudria
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brien
| Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
|
Bulte
| Byrne
| Caccia
| Cadman
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
|
Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Clouthier
|
Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
|
Crête
| Cullen
| Cummins
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
|
Dhaliwal
| Dion
| Discepola
| Dockrill
|
Doyle
| Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
|
Duncan
| Earle
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Epp
| Finestone
| Finlay
| Folco
|
Fontana
| Forseth
| Fry
| Gagliano
|
Gagnon
| Gallaway
| Gauthier
| Gilmour
|
Girard - Bujold
| Godfrey
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Gray
(Windsor West)
|
Grewal
| Grose
| Guarnieri
| Guimond
|
Harb
| Hardy
| Harris
| Harvard
|
Harvey
| Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hilstrom
|
Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
| Jackson
|
Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
| Kraft Sloan
|
Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lastewka
| Lavigne
|
Lebel
| Lee
| Leung
| Lill
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Lincoln
| Longfield
| Loubier
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mancini
| Marceau
| Marchand
|
Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Massé
| Matthews
| McCormick
|
McGuire
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| McNally
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mifflin
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Mitchell
| Morrison
| Muise
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
|
Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Paradis
| Patry
| Penson
|
Peric
| Peterson
| Pettigrew
| Phinney
|
Picard
(Drummond)
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Power
|
Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Robillard
| Rocheleau
| Rock
| Saada
|
Sauvageau
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Sekora
| Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
|
Solomon
| Speller
| St. Denis
| Steckle
|
Stewart
(Brant)
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| St - Hilaire
| Stinson
|
St - Jacques
| St - Julien
| Stoffer
| Strahl
|
Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Torsney
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
|
Vellacott
| Venne
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
|
Wood – 237
|
NAYS
Members
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare the motion carried. When shall
the bill be read a third time? By leave, now?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Hon. Sheila Copps moved that the bill be read the third
time and passed.
(Motion agreed to, bill read the third time and passed)
PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS
[English]
CRIMINAL CODE
The House resumed from May 28 consideration of Bill C-251, an
act to amend the Criminal Code and the Corrections and
Conditional Release Act (cumulative sentences), as reported (with
amendment) from the committee.
The Deputy Speaker: The House will now proceed to the
taking of the deferred recorded divisions on the motions at
report stage of Bill C-251 under Private Members' Business.
[Translation]
The question is on Motion No. 1.
[English]
The division will be taken row by row starting with the sponsor
and then proceeding with those in favour of the motion beginning
with the back row on the side of the House on which the sponsor
sits. After proceeding through the rows on that first side, the
members sitting on the other side of the House will vote, again
beginning with the back row. Those opposed to the motion will be
called in the same order.
2005
(The House divided on Motion No. 1, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
|
Bailey
| Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélair
|
Bélanger
| Bellemare
| Benoit
| Bertrand
|
Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
|
Borotsik
| Bradshaw
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Bryden
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Catterall
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Doyle
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Duncan
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Epp
| Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
|
Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
|
Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
| Goodale
|
Gouk
| Graham
| Grewal
| Guarnieri
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvey
| Herron
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Knutson
| Konrad
| Lastewka
|
Lebel
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Marchand
| Mark
| Marleau
|
Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
|
McCormick
| McGuire
| McNally
| McTeague
|
McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
|
Morrison
| Muise
| Murray
| Myers
|
Nault
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Penson
|
Peric
| Peterson
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Provenzano
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Serré
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
|
St - Jacques
| Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Venne
|
Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
|
White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood – 171
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Brown
| Byrne
| Caccia
|
Carroll
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
Davies
| de Savoye
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
|
Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Earle
| Finestone
|
Finlay
| Gauthier
| Grose
| Guimond
|
Hardy
| Harvard
| Hilstrom
| Kraft Sloan
|
Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lill
| Loubier
|
Mancini
| Marceau
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Phinney
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Saada
| Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| St - Hilaire
|
St - Julien
| Torsney – 46
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 1 carried.
The next question is on the amendment to Motion No. 2.
Mr. Lynn Myers: Mr. Speaker, I wonder if there would be
unanimous consent to apply the votes in the manner that was just
done consistent with the next five?
The Deputy Speaker: Is it agreed to apply the vote on the
motion just taken to the motion now before the House?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Some hon. members: No.
The Deputy Speaker: Accordingly,
we will proceed in the usual way.
2015
Before the taking of the vote:
Mr. Gary Lunn: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I
was standing to be recorded for yes but somehow I got missed. I
am not sure how they could have missed me.
The Deputy Speaker: I am sure no one can imagine, but I
am sure the hon. member will also be counted.
(The House divided on the amendment, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Adams
| Alcock
|
Anders
| Anderson
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
|
Bailey
| Baker
| Bélair
| Bélanger
|
Bellemare
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
|
Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brison
| Brown
| Bryden
|
Cadman
| Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
|
Casey
| Casson
| Catterall
| Chamberlain
|
Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
| Clouthier
|
Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
| Copps
|
Cullen
| Cummins
| Dion
| Doyle
|
Dromisky
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
| Folco
|
Fontana
| Forseth
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
|
Gilmour
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
| Goodale
|
Gouk
| Graham
| Grewal
| Guarnieri
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvey
| Herron
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lebel
|
Leung
| Longfield
| Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
|
Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
| Mark
|
Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McNally
|
McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Mitchell
| Morrison
| Muise
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
|
Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Penson
| Peric
| Phinney
|
Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Power
| Pratt
|
Proctor
| Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Sekora
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
|
St - Jacques
| Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Venne
|
Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
|
White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert
| Wood
– 163
|
NAYS
Members
Alarie
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Bellehumeur
| Bigras
|
Brien
| Caccia
| Carroll
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
|
Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| de Savoye
|
Desjarlais
| DeVillers
| Dockrill
| Earle
|
Finestone
| Finlay
| Gauthier
| Grose
|
Guimond
| Harvard
| Hilstrom
| Kraft Sloan
|
Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lill
| Loubier
|
Mancini
| Marceau
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
| Saada
|
Sauvageau
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| St - Hilaire
| St - Julien
|
Torsney – 41
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare the amendment to Motion No.
2 carried.
Mr. Peter MacKay: Mr. Speaker, I would again seek
unanimous consent to have the results of the vote just taken
applied to the remaining four votes.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to apply
these votes?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Some hon. members: No.
The Deputy Speaker: The question is on Motion No. 2, as
amended.
Mr. Lynn Myers: Mr. Speaker, in the interest of
co-operation I rise on a point of order to seek unanimous consent
that the House apply the vote just taken to the four remaining.
The Deputy Speaker: The Chair is not prepared to keep
doing this. I will ask once more and then we are proceeding. Is
there unanimous consent to apply the vote just taken as
indicated?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Some hon. members: No.
The Deputy Speaker: The next question is on Motion No. 2,
as amended.
2025
[Translation]
(The House divided on Motion No. 2, which was agreed to on the
following division: )
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Alcock
| Anders
|
Anderson
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Bryden
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Cullen
| Cummins
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Doyle
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
| Folco
|
Fontana
| Forseth
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
|
Gilmour
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
| Goodale
|
Gouk
| Graham
| Grewal
| Guarnieri
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvey
| Herron
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lebel
|
Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
| Lunn
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
| Muise
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Penson
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
| Speller
|
Steckle
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert – 156
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Benoit
| Brien
|
Caccia
| Carroll
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
|
Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Earle
| Finestone
|
Finlay
| Gauthier
| Grose
| Guimond
|
Hilstrom
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lill
| Loubier
| Mancini
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Saada
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| St - Julien
| Torsney
– 36
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 2, as amended, carried.
[English]
The next question is on the amendment to Motion No. 3.
Mr. Bob Kilger: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order.
I believe you will find consent to apply the results of the vote
just taken to the amendment to Motion No. 3 under the name of the
hon. member for Leeds—Grenville and Motion No. 3 under the name
of the hon. member for Mississauga East. That would leave the
report stage concurrence motion to be voted on subsequently by
itself.
I am suggesting that we might have consent to apply the results
of the vote just taken to the next two votes and only those.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed
as outlined by the chief government whip?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
[Translation]
Mr. Ghislain Lebel: Mr. Speaker, on a point of order. It has
been drawn to my attention that I was not recorded as voting in
favour of the motion on the last vote. I want to make sure that
this is done.
The Deputy Speaker: We can assure the hon. member that his name
will be included on the list for Motion No. 3 and the amendment
has having voted yea.
Mr. Ghislain Lebel: Mr. Speaker, I was present at the last vote,
but I do not think I was recognized.
The Deputy Speaker: The name of the hon. member is now recorded.
[English]
(The House divided on the amendment, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Alcock
| Anders
|
Anderson
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Bryden
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Cullen
| Cummins
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Doyle
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
| Folco
|
Fontana
| Forseth
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
|
Gilmour
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
| Goodale
|
Gouk
| Graham
| Grewal
| Guarnieri
|
Harb
| Harris
| Harvey
| Herron
|
Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
|
Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
|
Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
|
Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
|
Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lebel
|
Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
| Lunn
|
MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
|
Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
|
Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
|
McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
|
Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
| Muise
|
Murray
| Myers
| Nault
| Normand
|
Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
|
O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Penson
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
|
Pillitteri
| Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
|
Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
|
Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
|
Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
| Speller
|
Steckle
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
|
Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
|
Thibeault
| Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
|
Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
| Wappel
|
Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert – 156
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Benoit
| Brien
|
Caccia
| Carroll
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| Desjarlais
| DeVillers
|
Dockrill
| Dromisky
| Earle
| Finestone
|
Finlay
| Gauthier
| Grose
| Guimond
|
Hilstrom
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
|
Lill
| Loubier
| Mancini
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
|
Paradis
| Patry
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
|
Saada
| Scott
(Fredericton)
| St - Julien
| Torsney
– 36
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare the amendment to Motion No.
3 carried. The next question is on Motion No. 3.
Mr. John Solomon: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of
order. On Motion No. 3 as amended by the hon. member for
Leeds—Grenville and Motion No. 3 in the name of the hon. member
for Mississauga East, the member for Churchill shall not be
counted for our caucus. She has departed.
[Translation]
Ms. Jocelyne Girard-Bujold: Mr. Speaker, I would like you to
record my vote on Motion No. 3 as having voted in favour of the
motion.
The Deputy Speaker: For the amendment to Motion No. 3 as well?
For both?
Ms. Jocelyne Girard-Bujold: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent to proceed in
this fashion with the changes already indicated?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
[English]
(The House divided on Motion No. 3, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Alcock
| Anders
|
Anderson
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
|
Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
| Blondin - Andrew
|
Bonin
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
| Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
|
Brison
| Bryden
| Cadman
| Calder
|
Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
| Casson
|
Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
| Chatters
|
Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
| Comuzzi
|
Cullen
| Cummins
| Dion
| Discepola
|
Doyle
| Drouin
| Duhamel
| Duncan
|
Easter
| Eggleton
| Epp
| Folco
|
Fontana
| Forseth
| Gagliano
| Gagnon
|
Gilmour
| Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
|
Goodale
| Gouk
| Graham
| Grewal
|
Guarnieri
| Harb
| Harris
| Harvey
|
Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
| Hubbard
| Ianno
|
Iftody
| Jaffer
| Jennings
| Johnston
|
Jones
| Jordan
| Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
|
Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
| Kerpan
| Keyes
|
Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
| Konrad
| Lastewka
|
Lebel
| Leung
| Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
|
Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
| Mahoney
| Malhi
|
Maloney
| Mark
| Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
|
Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
| Matthews
| McCormick
|
McGuire
| McNally
| McTeague
| McWhinney
|
Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
| Mitchell
| Morrison
|
Muise
| Murray
| Myers
| Nault
|
Normand
| Nystrom
| Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
|
O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
| Pagtakhan
| Penson
|
Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
| Power
| Pratt
|
Proctor
| Ramsay
| Redman
| Reed
|
Reynolds
| Ritz
| Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
|
Sekora
| Shepherd
| Solberg
| Solomon
|
Speller
| Steckle
| Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
|
St - Jacques
| Stoffer
| Strahl
| Szabo
|
Telegdi
| Thibeault
| Ur
| Valeri
|
Vanclief
| Vautour
| Vellacott
| Volpe
|
Wappel
| Whelan
| White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
|
Wilfert – 157
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Benoit
| Brien
|
Caccia
| Carroll
| Chrétien
(Frontenac – Mégantic)
| Crête
|
Dalphond - Guiral
| Davies
| DeVillers
| Dockrill
|
Dromisky
| Earle
| Finestone
| Finlay
|
Gauthier
| Grose
| Guimond
| Hilstrom
|
Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
| Lalonde
| Lill
|
Loubier
| Mancini
| McKay
(Scarborough East)
| Paradis
|
Patry
| Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
| Saada
|
Scott
(Fredericton)
| St - Julien
| Torsney
– 35
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 3, as amended,
carried.
Ms. Albina Guarnieri (Mississauga East, Lib.) moved that the
bill, as amended, be concurred in.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to
adopt the motion?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Some hon. members: No.
The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion
will please say yea.
Some hon. members: Yea.
The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.
Some hon. members: Nay.
The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the yeas have it.
And more than five members having risen:
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Mr. Ivan Grose: Mr. Speaker, due to a temporary lapse of
attention my vote was not recorded on the last vote. I would
like to be recorded as voting nay.
The Deputy Speaker: The member will be recorded
accordingly.
Mr. Ken Epp: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. In
anticipation of the pandemonium that will break out when the last
vote is announced, I would like to say thank you for the
wonderful way you have conducted the votes tonight.
The Deputy Speaker: We will wait for the pandemonium,
thank you.
(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the
following division:)
YEAS
Members
Abbott
| Ablonczy
| Alcock
| Anders
|
Anderson
| Augustine
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bailey
|
Baker
| Beaumier
| Bélanger
| Bellemare
|
Benoit
| Bertrand
| Bevilacqua
| Blaikie
|
Blondin - Andrew
| Bonin
| Borotsik
| Breitkreuz
(Yellowhead)
|
Breitkreuz
(Yorkton – Melville)
| Brison
| Bryden
| Cadman
|
Calder
| Cannis
| Caplan
| Casey
|
Casson
| Chamberlain
| Chan
| Charbonneau
|
Chatters
| Clouthier
| Coderre
| Collenette
|
Comuzzi
| Copps
| Cullen
| Cummins
|
Dion
| Discepola
| Doyle
| Drouin
|
Duhamel
| Duncan
| Easter
| Eggleton
|
Epp
| Folco
| Fontana
| Forseth
|
Gagliano
| Gagnon
| Gallaway
| Gilmour
|
Girard - Bujold
| Godin
(Acadie – Bathurst)
| Goldring
| Goodale
|
Gouk
| Grewal
| Guarnieri
| Harb
|
Harris
| Harvey
| Herron
| Hill
(Prince George – Peace River)
|
Hubbard
| Ianno
| Iftody
| Jaffer
|
Jennings
| Johnston
| Jones
| Jordan
|
Karetak - Lindell
| Karygiannis
| Keddy
(South Shore)
| Kenney
(Calgary Southeast)
|
Kerpan
| Keyes
| Kilger
(Stormont – Dundas – Charlottenburgh)
| Kilgour
(Edmonton Southeast)
|
Konrad
| Lastewka
| Lebel
| Leung
|
Limoges
(Windsor – St. Clair)
| Longfield
| Lunn
| MacKay
(Pictou – Antigonish – Guysborough)
|
Mahoney
| Malhi
| Maloney
| Mark
|
Marleau
| Martin
(Esquimalt – Juan de Fuca)
| Martin
(LaSalle – Émard)
| Martin
(Winnipeg Centre)
|
Matthews
| McCormick
| McGuire
| McNally
|
McTeague
| McWhinney
| Meredith
| Mills
(Red Deer)
|
Mitchell
| Morrison
| Muise
| Murray
|
Myers
| Nault
| Normand
| Nystrom
|
Obhrai
| O'Brien
(Labrador)
| O'Brien
(London – Fanshawe)
| O'Reilly
|
Pagtakhan
| Penson
| Pickard
(Chatham – Kent Essex)
| Pillitteri
|
Power
| Pratt
| Proctor
| Ramsay
|
Redman
| Reed
| Reynolds
| Ritz
|
Schmidt
| Scott
(Skeena)
| Sekora
| Shepherd
|
Solberg
| Solomon
| Speller
| Steckle
|
Stewart
(Northumberland)
| Stinson
| St - Jacques
| Stoffer
|
Strahl
| Szabo
| Telegdi
| Thibeault
|
Ur
| Valeri
| Vanclief
| Vautour
|
Vellacott
| Volpe
| Wappel
| Whelan
|
White
(Langley – Abbotsford)
| White
(North Vancouver)
| Wilfert – 159
|
NAYS
Members
Adams
| Bachand
(Saint - Jean)
| Brien
| Brown
|
Caccia
| Carroll
| Crête
| Dalphond - Guiral
|
Davies
| DeVillers
| Dockrill
| Dromisky
|
Earle
| Finestone
| Finlay
| Gauthier
|
Grose
| Hilstrom
| Kraft Sloan
| Laliberte
|
Lalonde
| Lill
| Loubier
| Mancini
|
McKay
(Scarborough East)
| Paradis
| Patry
| Phinney
|
Picard
(Drummond)
| Rocheleau
| Saada
| Scott
(Fredericton)
|
St - Julien
| Torsney
– 34
|
PAIRED
Members
Assadourian
| Axworthy
(Winnipeg South Centre)
| Bakopanos
| Barnes
|
Bergeron
| Cardin
| Carroll
| Debien
|
Desrochers
| Duceppe
| Dumas
| Laurin
|
MacAulay
| Marchi
| McLellan
(Edmonton West)
| Ménard
|
Mercier
| Mills
(Broadview – Greenwood)
| Minna
| Plamondon
|
Proud
| Richardson
| Tremblay
(Rimouski – Mitis)
| Turp
|
Mr. Randy White: Mr. Speaker, since the previous
amendments to Bill C-251 now constitute legislation complete at
report stage, I seek the unanimous consent of the House to vote
at third reading of Bill C-251.
The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
Some hon. members: No.
ADJOURNMENT PROCEEDINGS
[English]
A motion to adjourn the House under Standing Order 38
deemed to have been moved.
KOSOVO
Mr. Gordon Earle (Halifax West, NDP): Mr. Speaker, it
appears that U.S. A-10 Warthog jets are deploying depleted
uranium shells in Kosovo. Since this is being done under the
NATO umbrella, to which we are a partner, we bear responsibility
for this atrocious act.
Turning a blind eye to the use of depleted uranium in Kosovo is
not only unacceptable but also unforgivable.
Depleted uranium is 7.7 times more dense than lead. For this
reason it is used in shells fired by the Warthog's Avenger
Cannon. The weight allows the rounds to penetrate deeply into
concrete, such as bunkers, as well as metal, such as tanks.
Jane's Information Group also describes the enhanced “incendiary
effects” of depleted uranium since it is a natural agent that
ignites on contact with air.
The famous epidemiologist, Dr. Rosalie Bertell, has the
following to say about depleted uranium:
DU is highly toxic to humans, both chemically as a heavy metal
and radiologically as an alpha particle emitter which is very
dangerous when taken internally.
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Upon impact, the DU bursts into flames. It produces a toxic and
radioactive ceramic aerosol that is much lighter than uranium
dust. It can travel in the air tens of kilometres from the point
of release, or settle waiting to be stirred up in dust and
suspended in the air by human or animal movement.
It is very small and can be breathed by anyone from babies and
pregnant women to the elderly and the sick. This radioactive and
toxic ceramic can stay in the lungs for years, irradiating the
surrounding tissue with powerful alpha particles. It can affect
the lungs, gastrointestinal system, liver, kidneys, bone, other
tissues and renal system.
The A-10 Warthog is capable of firing 4,200 rounds of this
abomination every minute. The U.S. government has suggested that
almost one million rounds of this radioactive toxin casing were
fired in Iraq during the gulf war. Iraq has witnessed explosive
rates of stillbirths, children born with defects, childhood
leukemia and other cancers, in particular near the Basara region
where these shells were fired.
Dr. Bertell states the following about DU:
It is most likely a major contributor to the Gulf War Syndrome
experienced by the veterans and the people of Iraq.
I understand that Pentagon spokesperson Major-General Chuck Wald
admitted to the BBC on May 7 of this year that A-10 Warthogs were
indeed deploying this evil in Kosovo.
NATO has already launched potentially devastating environmental
offensives in Kosovo. It bombed the largest medical factory in
Yugoslavia when it bombed the Galenika pharmaceutical complex,
releasing highly toxic fumes. On April 15 NATO bombed the
petrochemical complex in Pancevo releasing huge amounts of
chlorine, ethylene dichloride and vinyl chloride monomer. The
same day it hit an ammonia supply company.
NATO is not a foreign power. It is we. It is the people in
this House. The Liberal government has not only the power but
also the moral, ethical and humane obligation to speak out with
force. Using DU is an abominable atrocity. It can be stopped.
The Liberal government can do something about it.
Canadians, Yugoslavians and especially pregnant women and
children in the region being bombed have the right to know that
this government will not stop until it can assure all of us that
any and all use of DU is stopped.
[Translation]
Mr. Robert Bertrand (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of
National Defence, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, our on-going commitment in
Kosovo is important for this government and for all Canadians,
not only because we are members of an alliance, but because of
the moral issues at stake.
Our contribution has been recognized as significant and worthy.
As we speak, members and planes of the Canadian forces are
taking part in NATO air operations over Yugoslavia.
We are sending some 800 members of the Canadian armed forces to
the former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia as part of our
commitment to an international force that will help implement a
peace accord.
The members of the Canadian forces deserve our recognition and
our support for the most important job they have taken on on
behalf of all Canadian citizens.
[English]
There are no munitions containing depleted uranium in the
Canadian forces' inventory. There are no plans to purchase or
use such ammunition in the future. Canada does not allow any
foreign testing or use of depleted uranium ammunition on Canadian
soil.
Some of our NATO allies are using this type of ammunition. The
use of depleted uranium is not restricted by any international
arms control treaty or convention.
Exposure to depleted uranium has been investigated as a possible
cause for illness, in particular in gulf war veterans. None of
the scientific work published to this day supports a link between
exposure to depleted uranium and illnesses in gulf war veterans,
including cancer and birth defects. American investigators
followed gulf war veterans with depleted uranium shrapnel in
their bodies and have not found any illnesses compatible with
heavy metal or radiation poisoning.
[Translation]
The Deputy Speaker: The motion to adjourn the House is now
deemed to have been adopted.
Accordingly, this House stands adjourned until tomorrow at 10
a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).
(The House adjourned at 8.44 p.m.)