Story Tools: PRINT | Text Size: S M L XL | REPORT TYPO | SEND YOUR FEEDBACK

The Smackdown

This week: Is U2 over?

U2 perform on stage on the first night of their Vertigo 2005 Tour in San Diego, Ca. (Dave Hogan/Getty Images)
U2 perform on stage on the first night of their Vertigo 2005 Tour in San Diego, Ca. (Dave Hogan/Getty Images)

Welcome to the Smackdown, a new regular feature where two CBC Arts Online writers will butt heads over a hot topic in the world of pop culture.

On Nov. 21, U2 issued U218, its latest greatest-hits compilation. This comes just a week after the release of the charity single The Saints Are Coming, the band’s collaboration with Green Day. The proceeds will go to Music Rising, an agency created by U2 guitarist the Edge to finance music programs in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. In September, the band released U2 by U2, a plush, 352-page coffee-table book that recounts their 30-year history in words and pictures.

While U2 clearly has much product to sell, the question is: are they still musically relevant?

From: Matthew McKinnon
To: Andre Mayer
Subject: U2’s musical relevance

Hi Andre,

Let’s hit it. We’ve known each other a long while now, so you’ve already endured oh-so-many of my rants about Saint Bono and co. Before I whiz on their never-ending fire, here’s something you don’t know: U2’s Zoo TV tour was my first-ever concert experience, at Toronto’s since-demolished Exhibition Stadium. It was 1992; I was 15, and amazed by the spectacle. Rotating cars on crane arms, enormous video monitors pulsing with vaguely political statements, the band firing laser-beam versions of Achtung Baby and the important early hits. Bono was in full Fly mode — i.e. the sunglasses were somewhat new, not yet a permanent part of his face — and jittering on a runway that pushed far into the crowd. It was big, it was loud ... of course I had a wonderful time.

Another year I was late for family Christmas Eve because I went to see Rattle & Hum at a theatre with friends. (Afterward we dipped into the mall, where I bought myself Aerosmith’s Permanent Vacation on cassette. And that, my friend, is the most embarrassing thing I will ever admit on the internet.) Now, though, those memories feel like ancient history. The band has since become a brand, and stopped innovating sometime before the end of last century.

Yes, I’m aware: War, The Joshua Tree and Achtung are like a holy trinity for millions of perfectly sane people. But U2 fell off. All That You Can’t Leave Behind — 2000’s so-called comeback album (when did they leave? can they go away again?) — had a fantastic title, given how tightly it clung to the sound they created in the ’80s and ’90s. The next one, How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb (2004), was another retread ... which collected five Grammys, including album of the year. And still I think of it as “the one with the overwrought song from the iPod commercials.”

Matt


From: Andre Mayer
To: Matthew McKinnon
Subject: U2’s musical relevance

Hey Matt,

Before I commence defending U2, I must confess I have first-concert envy. My initiation into the stadium scene was Genesis, also 1992. At the time, U2 was in full flower; Genesis was wilting on the vine. In my defence, I was 17, and I didn’t know that it had also been 17 years since the band had any cred to speak of. But I regress.

There’s no denying that U2 has become much more than the world’s biggest band. (For most bands, that would be enough.) Their omnipresence can be irritating, but is it any worse than the indefatigable Rolling Stones? Or any band that’s been kicking around for more than a decade? The artist-as-brand paradigm isn’t unique to U2. In fact, I’d argue that Jay-Z and Diddy — who are not only rappers but record moguls, fashion designers and who knows what else — are far more brand-focused than U2. While aligning themselves with Apple was a major marketing coup, most of U2’s branding is channelled into charitable work with Amnesty International, Make Poverty History, DATA (Debt, AIDS, Trade in Africa) and many other worthy initiatives. Now that’s the kind of brand I can get behind.

Re: U2’s innovation, I won’t argue with you. Zooropa was the last challenging album they made and that was during Bill Clinton’s first term in the White House. But one indicator of a band’s relevance is how they compare to the bands they’ve influenced. If I had the choice between listening to U2 or recent sonic heirs like Coldplay or the Killers, there would be no debate. In terms of songcraft and lyrical complexity, How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb pretty much flattens Coldplay’s X&Y. As for Sam’s Town — it doesn’t even deserve a seat at the table.

A


Pride: U2 in 1984. (Universal Music)

Pride: U2 in 1984. (Universal Music)

From: Matthew McKinnon
To: Andre Mayer
Subject: U2’s musical relevance

Andre,

No, U2’s omnipresence is not worse than the Rolling Stones’ omnipresence. Can’t I loathe it in both cases? I don’t advocate that every group with a long career should kick the can, but musicians are artists, and bands like U2 and the Stones keep painting the same picture again and again. The Mona Lisa would be less special if Da Vinci had made a half-dozen of her.

I’m indifferent to Jurassic 5, the L.A. sextet that has been rapping about hip hop’s golden years for — gasp — more than a decade. One of their song titles, though, has stuck with me since the first time I heard it: Evolve or Dissolve. I’m a fervent believer that new music — i.e. something different than what came before, not old hits repackaged with a clever title — is the best music, so bands that stagnate tend to bore me to death. Or, less hyperbolically, bore me to the point of picking something else on iTunes.

You said it, U2 has coloured inside the lines since Zooropa — which, I notice, isn’t represented on U218 (nor are October and Pop). Ergo, I wish they would dissolve.

Nice move, Cochran, playing the charity card. For years, that’s been the one thing to slow the momentum of dissing U2. Given your impressive list of their impressive causes — really, I mean that — I guess we’ve introduced Googling to this conversation. So let me find something in return: U2, those fine humanitarians — and the world’s biggest music earners last year — have moved their money out of Ireland to avoid paying taxes. Hypocrisy, thy name is Bono.

Also, since you know me so well, I assume you’re clowning around by calling U2 better than Coldplay or the Killers. That’s like telling me mace hurts less than rubber bullets or pepper spray.

M

P.S. You’re on point about Jay, but calling Diddy a rapper?! Locate a corner and feel shame.


From: Andre Mayer
To: Matthew McKinnon
Subject: U2’s musical relevance

Matt,

That last missive was the e-mail equivalent of a towel-snap. I’m finding it painful to sit right now.

While U218 provides a solid cross-section of the band’s best singles, it’s really unfortunate that it doesn’t include anything from U2’s short-lived “freaky” phase (e.g. Numb, Lemon). The new track included here, Window in the Skies, only proves your point about U2’s complacence: it’s another plodding, overly emotive stadium rocker, something Bono probably wrote in the shower.

I won’t bother defending U2’s accounting practices, but I will say that regardless of the state of their art, U2 make great musical ambassadors. Warning: I’m going to get a little touchy-feely here. The reason Coldplay often sound so overwrought is because they’re straining to capture U2’s transcendent pop. What do I mean by “transcendent”? The reason tracks like New Year’s Day, Where the Streets Have No Name or Vertigo have been worldwide hits is that they appeal to the basic human desire for melody and positivity. Doesn’t matter where you live or what else you listen to, U2 are dependably uplifting.

A


From: Matthew McKinnon
To: Andre Mayer
Cc: Phil Collins
Subject: U2’s musical relevance

Andre,

I, too, enjoyed U2’s freaky phase best, and go along with your smart points about their ambassadorship. We can assume, though, they’re aiming higher than “Dependably Uplifting” for their epitaph ... provided one ever comes. Remind me: was Highlander Irish?

Bono during the 1997 Pop tour. (Jon Levy/AFP/Getty Images) Bono during the 1997 Pop tour. (Jon Levy/AFP/Getty Images)

We’ve skirted the 98-pound shrimp in the cyber-room: Bono’s voice. It’s always been the band’s weakest instrument — Larry Mullen Jr., the Edge and the One Who Inexplicably Dated Naomi Campbell are faultless players — but it used to be much stronger than it is now. U2 the band would not have become U2 the planetary phenomenon if not for the way Bono sang songs like Sunday Bloody Sunday, With or Without You, Desire and One.

Actually, I should specify — the Achtung Baby version of One. Which, again, was a long way back in the road. I figured Bono would pull a Howard Hughes after the 2006 Grammys, when U2 made the mistake of inviting Mary J. Blige to join their performance of that song. The band had just torn through Vertigo, which, in turn, had torn through Bono’s pipes. He began One’s first verse, but when Miss Mary stepped out from the shadows to take up its words, it sounded like ... like the difference between Mary J. Blige and Sonny Bono.

Yes, I said that.

M


From: Andre Mayer
To: Matthew McKinnon
Subject: U2’s musical relevance

Dearest M —

A-ha! I was waiting for this: the assault on Bono’s voice. This is not the first time I’ve heard you belittle his pipes by referring to that unfortunate duet with Mary J. Agreed: she slays him. And here’s a list of other singers who would undoubtedly slay Bono: Mariah Carey, Jill Scott, Chris Cornell, Andrea Bocelli. Oh, and Luciano Pavarotti, in whose shadow Bono literally stood while they recorded the gorgeous 1995 single Miss Sarajevo.

I contend that Bono has a Great voice. Yes, capital G. It may not be the most powerful, but it conveys everything you want in a rock voice: urgency and emotion. If it cracks from time to time, all the better. It’s evidence that he means it.

Bono’s got a problem: his need to be universally loved. Thus his penchant for duets with people who can out-blast him.

A


From: Matthew McKinnon
To: Andre Mayer
Subject: U2’s musical relevance

A,

I cannot stoop low enough, so here goes: Hulk Hogan was to 1980s wrestling as U2 is to 2000s music. He was the heavyweight champ; they are the World’s Biggest Band. Back then, though, anyone with two eyes could see that the Hulkster was far from the best wrestler. His “victories” were all sizzle, no Steak-Ums. And nowadays, anyone with two ears should be able to hear that U2, in present form, is far from ...

Well, you do the math.

M


From: Andre Mayer
To: Matthew McKinnon
Subject: U2’s musical relevance

M —

Math was never one of my strengths, so I’ll spare myself the headache.

If U2 was the only band in the music industry to rely on a little sizzle now and then, we could consider ourselves lucky. But let’s get to the meat of the matter. I draw your attention to the rock acts on the most recent Billboard Hot 100 chart. The Killers, the Fray, Evanescence, Nickelback — in terms of songcraft, U2 still schools those fools.

A


From: Matthew McKinnon
To: Andre Mayer
Subject: U2’s musical relevance

Andre,

Oh sure, and 50 million Elvis fans can’t be wrong … except for the many times when they were. But why stop at Nickelback? We live in a world where Fergie — the Black Eyed Peas vocalist who should be most famous for peeing herself onstage — is making major bank on songs like Fergalicious (which nearly rhymes with atrocious, and is currently No. 3 on said Billboard chart) and London Bridge (which was better when Gwen Stefani sang it the first time, except she called it Hollaback Girl).

I take your point: U2 is a lesser evil than many other popular bands. Still, given the choice of living with or without them, it remains a snap decision on this end of the line.

M —


From: Andre Mayer
To: Matthew McKinnon
Subject: U2’s musical relevance

Matt—

Your Fergie reference is apropos. Besides the innate quality of U2’s music, the band brings a touch of class to a milieu — pop music — that sorely lacks it. Most artists will do anything to get some airplay: drop their drawers, dis other musicians or get stupid-drunk in a bar in the hopes that someone with a camera-phone will catch it and upload it to YouTube. U2 are chart stalwarts on the strength of their songs and their conviction. And I find that oddly reassuring.

U218 Singles is available in stores now.

Andre Mayer and Matthew McKinnon write about the arts for CBC.ca.

CBC does not endorse and is not responsible for the content of external sites - links will open in new window.

Story Tools: PRINT | Text Size: S M L XL | REPORT TYPO | SEND YOUR FEEDBACK

World »

Abbas warns donor nations Gaza 'close to catastrophe'
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas urged donor nations gathered at a Paris conference Monday to aid the Palestinian economy amid a renewed international push for a Palestinian state.
December 17, 2007 | 11:48 AM EST
Russia sends first nuclear shipment to Iranian plant
Russia has sent its first shipment of nuclear fuel to the reactor it is helping build in Iran, Russia's Foreign Ministry said Monday.
December 17, 2007 | 10:08 AM EST
New York millionaires found guilty of 'modern day slavery'
A jury in New York on Monday convicted a millionaire couple of enslaving two Indonesian women they brought to their mansion to work as housekeepers.
December 17, 2007 | 11:04 AM EST
more »

Canada »

Harper announces more rigorous product safety law
The federal government on Monday announced a plan that will allow for greater product recall powers, stiffer fines for manufacturers and more product safety inspectors.
December 17, 2007 | 11:41 AM EST
Winter storm wallops N.L. after pummelling Maritimes, Ont., Que.
A massive winter storm blew into Newfoundland and Labrador Monday after battering Central Canada and the Maritimes.
December 17, 2007 | 6:24 AM EST
Taliban focus attacks on fellow Afghans: Hillier
Canada's top soldier says Taliban fighters are increasingly attacking fellow Afghans in an attempt to halt progress without facing the deadly consequences of fighting NATO forces.
December 17, 2007 | 11:03 AM EST
more »

Health »

Cancer report shows disparities between developing, developed countries
There will be more than 12 million new cancer cases and 7.6 million cancer deaths worldwide in 2007, the majority in developing countries, a new report says.
December 17, 2007 | 12:18 PM EST
Pakistan reports first cases of bird flu
Authorities in Pakistan have announced that country's first reported cases of H5N1 avian flu in a cluster of family members which may have involved human-to-human transmission.
December 17, 2007 | 9:45 AM EST
Ontario reactor restarts; isotope shipments expected within days
An Ontario nuclear reactor resumed operations Sunday and new supplies of medical isotopes will be ready for distribution within days to ease a worldwide shortage, the Atomic Energy of Canada says.
December 16, 2007 | 5:45 PM EST
more »

Arts & Entertainment»

LOTR's Gollum signs on for Tintin film
Award-winning British actor Andy Serkis will once again team up with director Peter Jackson on one of the upcoming new Tintin films, according to the Hollywood Reporter.
December 17, 2007 | 12:52 PM EST
U.S. art dealer opens contemporary gallery in Rome
The biggest commercial art dealer in the U.S. has opened a modern art gallery in Rome, a city better known for its classical and Renaissance art.
December 17, 2007 | 12:59 PM EST
No Country for Old Men, Juno named to AFI's Top 10 of year
Crime thriller No Country for Old Men and oil boom epic There Will Be Blood have added more accolades to their growing film awards haul, after the American Film Institute released its list of 2007's top movies.
December 17, 2007 | 10:17 AM EST
more »

Technology & Science »

Online navel gazing on the rise
More people are Googling themselves ? and many are checking out their friends, co-workers and romantic interests, too.
December 17, 2007 | 8:54 AM EST
Facebook sues Ont. porn company over alleged hacking
Facebook is suing a Toronto-based porn company and 17 people for allegedly trying to hack the social networking site for the personal information of its users.
December 17, 2007 | 12:49 PM EST
Canada Post fixes data-revealing web glitch
Canada Post said Monday it has fixed a security flaw that allowed log-in records from a small business shipping website to be viewable through search engines such as Yahoo and Google.
December 17, 2007 | 12:55 PM EST
more »

Money »

Former Black confidant Radler gets 29-month term
The 29-month jail sentence Conrad Black's one-time top lieutenant David Radler agreed to serve as part of a deal to testify against his former boss was approved on Monday.
December 17, 2007 | 11:31 AM EST
U.S. economy to stay out of recession: TD Waterhouse
TD Waterhouse predicted Monday that the U.S. economy will avoid a recession next year, and said returns on Canadian and U.S. equity markets should be in the single digits for 2008.
December 17, 2007 | 9:43 AM EST
Quebecor World changes CEO
Quebecor World, which has been beset by a host of problems recently, on Monday announced an immediate change in the chief executive's office.
December 17, 2007 | 11:43 AM EST
more »

Consumer Life »

Harper announces more rigorous product safety law
The federal government on Monday announced a plan that will allow for greater product recall powers, stiffer fines for manufacturers and more product safety inspectors.
December 17, 2007 | 11:41 AM EST
Canada Post fixes data-revealing web glitch
Canada Post said Monday it has fixed a security flaw that allowed log-in records from a small business shipping website to be viewable through search engines such as Yahoo and Google.
December 17, 2007 | 12:55 PM EST
New annual record for home sales
Real estate sales in the country's major markets have set a new annual record, according to the Canadian Real Estate Association (CREA).
December 17, 2007 | 12:59 PM EST
more »

Sports »

Scores: CFL MLB MLS

Cujo to play in Spengler Cup
Veteran NHL goaltender Curtis Joseph was one of 22 players named to Canada's roster for this year's Spengler Cup tournament in Davos, Switzerland.
December 17, 2007 | 1:08 PM EST
Frenchman wins Italian slalom
Frenchman Jean-Baptiste Grange won Monday's slalom race in Alta Badia, Italy, to record his first-ever victory on the World Cup circuit.
December 17, 2007 | 9:20 AM EST
Argentina tops FIFA rankings
Argentina topped the monthly world soccer rankings released by FIFA on Monday, winning FIFA's team of the year honours in the process.
December 17, 2007 | 8:49 AM EST
more »